Finally scored a threesome! :D

[Bible_Belt]

Unless she gives me sex...there's no value I see in befriending such women.

The value is in optimism about her changing her mind in the future.

 

[cordoncordon]

Oh Cordon, don't get all butthurt over that thread. I would wager that your "submission for sex" campaign would not be all that successful in the long-run and certainly would not result in any threesomes.

If you recall, on that thread in question the OP kept his self-respect and still fvked her a few hours later. All without getting in a fight, being mad or dramafied......AND maintaining the frame. He just said no to jumping through her hoop, end of story. YOU are creating more drama in talking about it than he did by saying "no thanks" to her hoop-jump.

Be cool as a cucumber and keep the frame.....the world doesn't end and you still get laid. But you get respect as well. And the OP proved that.

Now, why you would somehow relate that to this thread and think they are polar opposites......I just don't understand. The OP here was also cool, laid-back and kept the girls as casual sex without NC or whatever.


I don't see any difference between this thread and the last thread, whereas you somehow think you have to submit to hoop-jumping in order to keep a girl around for sex or to be able to have a threesome with her at some point.

As I said, your ability to twist words, exaggerate, and outright lie, all to fit your little view of the world and to make you the good guy, without batting an eye, is really top notch. I have never once said you have to submit through hoop jumping to get laid nor have I committed to a submission for sex campaign. Where do you even come up with this? Are you delusional? Insane?

You remind me a lot of my brother. You are him and he is you. This is a guy that I have loaned thousands of dollars to because he is broke. He has no job. No money. His wife supports him as well and has for years. In that time I have loaned him a ton of money to live on, and of course he says he will get a job and start paying me back but he never does. It is getting to the point where I may have to sue him. My own brother. Needless to say he will never get another dime from me. Plus he loves to come after me with whatever he thinks will hurt me AFTER I loan him money. I am still not sure why.....jealousy?

For example I invest in stocks quite a bit, and despite the fact that I have helped support him, he has no problem going on the stock message boards (penny stocks)and bashing the hell out of a stock that I am in, even though he has no vested interest in it. He just does it because I own it. One stock he did this for over a year and did it relentlessly. It was strange and odd beyond belief that my own bro would do this to me. He has also taken checks I would receive, sign my name, and then sign it over to him and cash it without telling me. As in stealing. And, like you, he loves to twist anything I say or do and fit it into his own little world all so he comes out looking like a million bucks and I am the bad guy. For example this past July 4 he got into a fight with his wife so he wanted to head up north to where some of our family was at a family cottage. But, he had no cash to get up there. So he contacts me and begs me for some cash. I say no. Then he says "well get in my fantasy football league that I run and just forward me the entry fee now". I have avoided this league because he doesn't use a website like league safe to hold the money. He keeps the money (around $2400) and then spends it and hopes he wins the league so he doesn't have to pay. It's ridiculous. So against my better judgement I drove to his bank branch in my city and deposited money for him (we live 2000 miles apart) so he could get away from his wife. Then a few weeks later he twists something that I had said very innocently to another family member, all so he can look good and I bad. Now he spread rumors about me and we havent talked since. Its almost as if he is a sadist, a narsicist, and a habitual liar all rolled into one.

My point in all this is I have to deal with this on a daily basis. I have seen it all when it comes to people twisting things to make them come out looking good. And I am not saying you are in my brothers league, although I don't know you in real life, so you may be. But you sure are making a run for it.

So you have that going for you.....I guess.

 

[corrector]

As I said, your ability to twist words, exaggerate, and outright lie, all to fit your little view of the world and to make you the good guy, without batting an eye, is really top notch. I have never once said you have to submit through hoop jumping to get laid nor have I committed to a submission for sex campaign. Where do you even come up with this? Are you delusional? Insane?

You remind me a lot of my brother. You are him and he is you. This is a guy that I have loaned thousands of dollars to because he is broke. He has no job. No money. His wife supports him as well and has for years. In that time I have loaned him a ton of money to live on, and of course he says he will get a job and start paying me back but he never does. It is getting to the point where I may have to sue him. My own brother. Needless to say he will never get another dime from me. Plus he loves to come after me with whatever he thinks will hurt me AFTER I loan him money. I am still not sure why.....jealousy?

For example I invest in stocks quite a bit, and despite the fact that I have helped support him, he has no problem going on the stock message boards (penny stocks)and bashing the hell out of a stock that I am in, even though he has no vested interest in it. He just does it because I own it. One stock he did this for over a year and did it relentlessly. It was strange and odd beyond belief that my own bro would do this to me. He has also taken checks I would receive, sign my name, and then sign it over to him and cash it without telling me. As in stealing. And, like you, he loves to twist anything I say or do and fit it into his own little world all so he comes out looking like a million bucks and I am the bad guy. For example this past July 4 he got into a fight with his wife so he wanted to head up north to where some of our family was at a family cottage. But, he had no cash to get up there. So he contacts me and begs me for some cash. I say no. Then he says "well get in my fantasy football league that I run and just forward me the entry fee now". I have avoided this league because he doesn't use a website like league safe to hold the money. He keeps the money (around $2400) and then spends it and hopes he wins the league so he doesn't have to pay. It's ridiculous. So against my better judgement I drove to his bank branch in my city and deposited money for him (we live 2000 miles apart) so he could get away from his wife. Then a few weeks later he twists something that I had said very innocently to another family member, all so he can look good and I bad. Now he spread rumors about me and we havent talked since. Its almost as if he is a sadist, a narsicist, and a habitual liar all rolled into one.

My point in all this is I have to deal with this on a daily basis. I have seen it all when it comes to people twisting things to make them come out looking good. And I am not saying you are in my brothers league, although I don't know you in real life, so you may be. But you sure are making a run for it.

So you have that going for you.....I guess.

This is good.

 

[bugsquish]

So you're really saying your current Facebook page features 41 former slept-with "friends"? I have never understood guys who have the ability or the desire to remain platonic with women. Unless she gives me sex...there's no value I see in befriending such women. I would rather just move on.

Well for a start women are people too no reason why they can't make as good a friend as a guy, or better.

In any case there's more than just sex that a girl can offer. She can give you a lot of help and support in your pickup, either through social proof or by introducing you to other available women. If fact that has been one of the biggest factors in my success. I'd advise against working your way through one big circle of girls who are friends through, it's one sure way to get you a reputation and make a mess.

As for my facebook friends, those are some of the girls I have been with, going back 20 years - some ex-gfs, ons, ex and current casuals. I'm always very respectful and honest and I do try to keep things amicable whatever happens. It can really work in your favour as we've seen.

 

[speed dawg]

Well you and the OP have not only fvucked more women than I...you both seem exceptionally talented at keeping them in your friendship circle after you fvuck them.

My experience has been the opposite. They're either lovers or strangers to me... I have never understood guys who have the ability or the desire to remain platonic with women.

Unless she gives me sex...there's no value I see in befriending such women. I would rather just move on.

I agree with you, but like you it's just through personal experience. There are lots of people out there, and many of them have these friends/f*ck buddy things going on, like some never-ending soap opera of p*ssy-chasing drama. Whatever floats their boat. It's not my thing. Most of these folks are hardcore into partying and popularity. Club status, social status, etc.

 

[cordoncordon]

Once again, for you....and the other retard that actually believes you...


Your post below....





Enough with the projection. You try to apply my advice from one thread (where you push for submission for sex), into this thread, where there is no relation whatsoever.

Again, he ended it with these girls on cool terms. Where do I ever say to not do that? Come on coward, show us. Quit being a pu$$y, quit with the defamation and put up.


Secondly,

What you STILL do not yet understand, despite my repeatedly telling you, is that jumping through a hoop IS SUBMISSION. When she gets combative and won't put out until you say "I want to fvk a man", that is submission.

Your advice to apologize so you can fvk her, IS STILL JUMPING THROUGH A HOOP.

The moment she decided to withhold sex was the moment the game changed. Now it isn't about saying sorry, it is about her withholding sex. The only way to win is to either walk away, or apologize but say that you lost the mood. If you apologize just to get sex, that is the same in her mind as saying "you want to fvk a man". Why? Because she didn't do it to get an apology, SHE DID IT TO HOLD POWER OVER YOU.

So yes, you are submitting for pu$$y. And the worst advice you can give to an AFC is to do what you suggested. Jumping through the hoop for sex. Do it once and you just make it easier to rationalize next time. Now TheException is not an AFC, but plenty will be reading that and they should be well aware that you gave some awfully $hitty advice.

TheException kept the frame and got laid only a few hours later with her. She realized her powergame failed, and knew it would be over if she did not put out.

Remember AFC's, there is nothing more intoxicating to a woman than a man who knows his own worth and can walk away from all of her attempts to manipulate him. Especially when that includes the sex card.


PS: LOL at your lame attempt to link me to someone who fools around in penny stocks. That $hit is for amateurs.

Danger we don't see eye to eye. We never will, on pretty much anything.

So I will leave it at this and then we never have to communicate again. I am going NC on you.

Good luck with everything and hope you find what you are looking for someday.

 

[cordoncordon]

I've already achieved most of my goals, but thanks.


PS: Don't forget to join the NC challenge thread.

Nah, ya know what...


Actually this describes it perfectly...

http://amishrakefight.org/gfy/

 

[bugsquish]

God now I remember why I stopped coming to this site. I've lost count how many times I've seen sensible discussion is destroyed by petty flame wars. Come on people you can debate and discuss without making insults or taking things personally. Plus, helps to stay on topic!