Fighting?

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Quiksilver said:
Fighting outside of a ring is pretty dumb. I'd only be compelled to fight if friends, family or own life was threatened. In which case I'd have no compunctions against bleeding his(or her, lol) ass all over the pavement.

If you're fighting to look cool, tough or to protect your ego....Then mabye you do need a thorough ass-pounding to teach you a lesson.

Tell the kid to f*ck off or you'll piss on his grave.

I've only been in two fights, the first I got my ass handed to me no excuses...The second I slammed his face against a fence post, it ended pretty quickly after that.. Point being... Little boys fight when they can, men fight when they must. Which one are you?
Good post Quicksilver. Real fights on the street are no joke..adrenaline is pumping and people really don't have control over their actions at all. It's like going back to nature..animals just going apesh!t fighting to survive.

I've only been in one street fight years ago. Me and a buddy got jumped by 3 guys. I had to fight two of them and got my ass kicked, although I did bust one of them up pretty bad. I was able to walk away bloody, but not broken. I was lucky, it could have been a lot worse.

If you want to fight, do it in the ring. Avoid it on the street at all costs unless your life, or a loved one, is at stake.
 

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Quiksilver said:
Moved to AE.

If you're really concerned about being in a fight, carry a blade.
Why? So he can get arrested for manslaughter to have to then spend his time fighting in prison to defend his anus?
 

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Don't fight. It's not like the movies.

No matter how buff you are, or how tough you think you are, your body is FRAGILE. Any midget could kill you with one flukeshot to a weak point or vital structure. If you don't die, you end up with a permanent disability. Good work!

Not only that, if you get arrested, you also get a criminal record, which will be just great to have when trying to get a job.

If you fight, you are a retard. End of story.
 

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Luveno said:
Don't fight.



What if you're just walking along, and some nutcase attacks you? And you're with your wife and kids, and elderly parents? I guess I shoudl just let them batter me into a bloddy mess, right? Sorry. I have balls, and am a Man.I protect those who are weaker, and defend myself because it's my right, not because it comes across as "macho". I believe you may not be familiar with these things, Luv.

It's not like the movies.

I agree. That's why we Men must not be pvssies and listen to bad advice. And pay attention to our manhood and LEARN HOW TO DEFEND OURSELVES AND OTHERS.


No matter how buff you are, or how tough you think you are, your body is FRAGILE.



All the more reason why a true, masculine Man is not afraid to sign up fpr real self defense training, And learns how to protect himself from multiple attackers, weapons, and avoid danger in the first place.


Any midget could kill you with one flukeshot to a weak point or vital structure. If you don't die, you end up with a permanent disability. Good work!



So this justifies me just standing there while he beats my wife and kids to death, and hacks them up with a cleaver, right?

You do see just how ridiculous your 'argument" is, don't you
?

Not only that, if you get arrested, you also get a criminal record, which will be just great to have when trying to get a job.


Again, you are being ignorant. Blind leading the Blind. Just because you're "arrested" is NOT SYNONYMOUS with BEING CHARGED with a CRIME!! Jesus, at least LEARN about the law before spewing out "advice". You won't have an ARREST on your NON EXISTENT Criminal "record", dude.
Luv, you're a menace! You'll get people killed! Seriously
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If you fight, you are a retard. End of story.

No, Luv, If you follow your own advice YOU'RE the "retard". End of story. I'll fight for my life, my health, and my family. You'll just end up dead. Good work!

End of story.
 

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No, in the cases you are talking about it's not fighting, it's about justified killing. Why try to dress it up?
 

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Interceptor said:
End of story.
Are you from Darfur? Where I'm from we don't have to worry about our families being jumped by violent strangers. Actually, that's more of a movie scenario than anything.

Sure, self defense traning is a good thing to learn if you're interested in it. It's also a great way to keep yourself in shape, and its also something you can be proud of doing. Doing it to prepare for a fight that probably won't happen is the wrong reason to be doing it.

Your talk of proving manhood by physical aggression is ridiculous. A true man doesn't have to learn self-defense training because he doesn't live in an area where violence is so rampant. Of course, to live in such a place it takes money. So...a true man makes money to care for his family. All of the biceps and punches in the world won't pay the bills.

You and I both know that most fights are over trivial, stupid things. A great number of them are fueled by drunken bravado. Others by anger issues. Very very very rarely (did I emphasize enough) is it ever a story of self-defense.

Luveno said:
If you fight, you're a retard
You only helped to prove this statement. Give yourself a pat on the back.
 

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You have no idea what you're talking about.
You haven't even bothered to read my post. You're subjective "reality" is totally clouding up the points I try to address. Your imposition of your baseless "facts' is seriously disturbing.

Your obvious hatred, and obviously repressed masculintiy is pretty evident. You do have some psych issues here. It's noticeable.

I'm not arguing with you on this. You won't even READ what I wrote.
You're obviously smart, but you're still an a gutless spiteful pvssy.

Unplug yourself from the marix, symp boy and learn to embrace being a man, not hate Masculinity.
Fighting to protect yourself is a very real possibility in life.
To deny it, and call people "retards" for doing so is pathetic.
 

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Interceptor said:
You have no idea what you're talking about.
You haven't even bothered to read my post. You're subjective "reality" is totally clouding up the points I try to address. Your imposition of your baseless "facts' is seriously disturbing.

Your obvious hatred, and obviously repressed masculintiy is pretty evident. You do have some psych issues here. It's noticeable.

I'm not arguing with you on this. You won't even READ what I wrote.
You're obviously smart, but you're still an a gutless spiteful pvssy.

Unplug yourself from the marix, symp boy and learn to embrace being a man, not hate Masculinity.
Fighting to protect yourself is a very real possibility in life.
To deny it, and call people "retards" for doing so is pathetic.

You're full of crap. I don't even know how to respond to it because its so beneath logic.
 

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Dude. Stop. Posting.

You're making me throw up.
 

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If it's not important enough to kill over it's not important enough to "fight" about. That's the perspective any civilized person should have about "fighting". If we're talking fighting as a sport there are places for that, but on the street it's not the same thing.

If training for martial arts makes you feel good (I like it) then do it. If weapons training is fun (I like it a lot) do that too, but the bottom line is that situations that require the use of deadly force almost never (literally) pop out of nowhere; the situations that lead to confrontations are recognizable and should be avoided. Spending a lot of time doing something you don't enjoy to prepare for something that's incredibly unlikely to happen is sort of silly.

Trying to become some sort of street ninja after the fact (help! I'm being picked on! Make me a deadly weapon!) is just stupidity.
 

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Interceptor said:
Unplug yourself from the marix, symp boy and learn to embrace being a man, not hate Masculinity.
Fighting to protect yourself is a very real possibility in life.
To deny it, and call people "retards" for doing so is pathetic.
whoa take it easy there G.I.Joe, I don't think Luveno means to say don't fight to protect yourself but in 99% of the situations you don't need too. Most of the times its your brain (to do the thinking), Your mouth to do the talking (or shuting up in the right times) and your legs to do the running that serve as the best self defence. The actual word is "Self defence" and if you can disarm a situation without resorting to a fight you already understood the concept and you have already won (your defence is more secured without fighting). The greatests martial artist fighters advocate and also live by the rule, that if you don't have to fight then don't (outside the ring). They already know they can kill someone and they have nothing to prove.

When is fighting those days ever one on one? this isn't 1950 anymore where people respect one another and settle it in an alley like men. People today are cowards and carry weapons or attack in big groups and if you are smart enough 99% of the times you won't run into them or even need to defend yourself. If your life depended on them and you can't get out of it then give them hell but if its your bruised ego took a hit and you just want to show how tough you are because some dude talk sh1t about you then you will reap what you sow.
 

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Very obvious.Thta's what I'm trying to get across.

And truthfully, I post here anonymously. So yeah, no one knows what kind of training I do, and how long I've been training, and most importantly , my actual proficiency. I'll allow that much.
Whatever.
But I just hate it when people who obviously don't know better are giving out 'advice" and calling people "retards".
It's wrong. I am not talking about your Ego scenarios. I am talking about RL self defense situations, like I stated in my posts. But he just ignored my points.

But thanks for taking the time for posting.
I sure as Hell don't feel like explaining myself any more.
 

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If you're honestly interested in real self defense take and continue to advance in handgun training including practical shooting, weapon retention, situational awareness and so on. Then get a CHL.

Grappling type MA is good for making sure you are the one using your gun - file that under "retention".

Anything else is just dance classes for men.
 
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Brighty said:
Are there any tips for fighting or winning fights that I somehow overlooked? I've been in a few fights before, won them both, but unfortunately I may have a bigger confrontation coming up soon that I need preparation for.
If he is bigger it usually means he has a longer reach, so standing up is not good for you. The best way is to take him down and beat him, while being on top. If he is a fatty then you can just punch him in the face and body. Just make sure to move around and tire him out first. The advantage of fatties is that they got heavy punches from all the weight. If it is a street fight there's no shame in kicking them in the balls.
 
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Interceptor said:
Very obvious.Thta's what I'm trying to get across.

And truthfully, I post here anonymously. So yeah, no one knows what kind of training I do, and how long I've been training, and most importantly , my actual proficiency. I'll allow that much.
Whatever.
But I just hate it when people who obviously don't know better are giving out 'advice" and calling people "retards".
It's wrong. I am not talking about your Ego scenarios. I am talking about RL self defense situations, like I stated in my posts. But he just ignored my points.

But thanks for taking the time for posting.
I sure as Hell don't feel like explaining myself any more.
I see your logic and you are right. Luveno is a total p ussy moron. He probably would watch his family get murdered and wife raped and still do nothing about it. Real men fight for what they believe in and protect those who can't. Luveno so based on your logic every US WWII veteran aren't real men right, becaues they chose physical confrontation? If the Allied forces didn't do anything then Hitler would have wiped out most of the Jews in Europe. I agree that starting fights to prove your masculinity is foolish, but defending yourself and people you care about from harm is perfectly justifiable.
 

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At 190lbs, you should be able to knock him the **** out with a decent punch.
 

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