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Thank you sir!floydb25 said:Bad boy. NG = nice guy. Makes it easier, and I'm lazy as ****.![]()
Thank you sir!floydb25 said:Bad boy. NG = nice guy. Makes it easier, and I'm lazy as ****.![]()
I highly doubt the fact that you had red wine instead of white was the reason you struck out. Although, it's a good idea to have liquor in reserve at all times.Mike32ct said:Lessons learned:
1. Keep booze in the house. Have beer and wine (one red and one white at least) on hand at all times. If there's a storm or the liquor store is closed, you're SOL.
2. Don't let her string you along with the "I'll give him a few kisses here and there" crap. It's just another form of friendzone.
3. Don't forget to lead.
4. No sad movies. Funny or action or romantic/sexual only. Scary is good too.
No, he said he was cuddling with her, trying to kiss her, etc. I agree with the rest of your post though.Fly By Night said:You could have been escalating kino while she was crying or whatever.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Hey man, that's my problem as well! I'm usually pretty laid back and relaxed. Chicks dig it but sometimes it makes it hard to escalate (especially in night game I'm not aggressive enough).Mike32ct said:True. I was very weak in the "leading" area. I was too laid back and accommodating.
True. Lead was probably the wrong term. Maybe I could have been a bit more aggressive with the kino, but the crying thing wasn't something I was used to.Huffman said:Hey man, that's my problem as well! I'm usually pretty laid back and relaxed. Chicks dig it but sometimes it makes it hard to escalate (especially in night game I'm not aggressive enough).
I mean I can get my stuff together and "lead" hard, I've done it in the past. But it's just such a nuisance! Why do you have to be "leading" all the time, when it's not really necessary? When at work, or at outdoor activities, I naturally assume the leader role whenever I want to change something.
If this girl is inviting you over and cooking for you, it seemed perfect at the start. There would be no reason to "lead" it to a different direction. I mean, would you whip out some stupid negs in order to demonstrate your "leadership skills"?
Just out of interest: how could you have "led" in this situation? How could you have "laid down the law" when she was crying in bed? I guess you could have intervened early and refused the sad film. Probably could have brought over your own film just in case.
I was confused about whether to play the boyfriend-ly role or the short term F bad boy role.SoSuave666 said:Yo Mike man I enjoy reading your FRs, so I thought I'd give you my insight into your scenario. I didn't read the rest of the replies, I only read your original post...so sorry if there is any duplication.
Thanks you. I really appreciate it. Field reports are fun to write. My latest one is in sageproduct's NYE thread, which you probably saw. Nothing special happened, but I posted anyway.
So, she seemed DTF when she invited you over. To me, it sounds like you wanted to turn a ho into a housewife. She invited you over to bang, and you went over trying to be all cute and boyfriendy. Girls lookin for d!ck don't want to cuddle and watch foreign movies.
Yes, I know exactly what you are saying. I'll discuss it more below...
I think your first mistake was giving away your intentions too early...the initial kiss attempt at the front door. She wanted a guy to come over, play the bad boy role of having other options and not being too easy..and then when drinking a glass or two of wine getting loose enough to let that same bad boy pump n dump.
An alternate scenario is that she simply wanted your attention and had her evening planned out well before you came over. Perhaps she was AWing and just wanted some free alcohol from you...(notice how when you didn't bring her exact type of alcohol the dynamic kind of shifted).
Either way, you can't with them all. Seems like you're detached from this woman and it didn't really matter the outcome, which is good. But it's a good learning experience: even when women seem DTF they can flip the script in a matter of seconds...we do live in a fem-centric world after all. Keep up the sarge though bro.
Great question. No, it's not a common gesture in my area. I did it to show confidence. On a first date, I recommend that a guy does a greeting hug at a minimum. Or if her interest level is high maybe a quick cheek kiss as a greeting. Then doing a real kiss later is easier. Plus it was like date 4, so a greeting kiss is no big deal.sageproduct said:Well Mike, it seems like regardless of what you "play", you're typically seen as the boyfriend type because that's more in tune with your personality. I've found that even with girls that I thought I was acting really alpha/dominant with, they STILL told me things like "you seem really nice" and stuff.
It is defintely my personality and look to be more the bf type. I'll never look like or be a bad boy. The most I can do (and probably should do) is be a bit more aggressive and still play the cards I have. A bf type can still score here and there. It's just not optimal.
Also I forgot to comment on the kiss upon greeting thing - I'm not really familiar with that, is it a common gesture in your area? I know many Latin Americans do it, but was there a particular reason you tried to kiss her right away?
True that. One female friend of mine (who is intentionally just a friend) actually told me straight out "girls are always *****y and talking behind each other's back... most guys are much nicer". Huh, I guess that's one way to look at it.SgtSplacker said:But women have more than one reason to spend time with guys:
validation
free stuff (food, drink, gifts, rides, whatever)
company (some girls don't really keep female friends, most dudes have male friends)
I've heard this from several girls. Even in the workplace, I've heard women say they would rather work for or with men for the same reason.Huffman said:True that. One female friend of mine (who is intentionally just a friend) actually told me straight out "girls are always *****y and talking behind each other's back... most guys are much nicer". Huh, I guess that's one way to look at it.