GodsGiftToFatBirds
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Yesterday I went on an all day sarging session in Manchester with another guy from this site, Guitar Whizz. In keeping with the recent trend on the board, I'm going to write a field report. Guitar Whizz will add his perspective in a day or 2 as well.
The basis of the day was that we spent most the afternoon going round the cetre of Manchester, doing street and shop approaches, and then moved into some bars about 8 to get some further practise.
It was a pretty successful day as we got 7 numbers between us, all of pretty hot girls. The day was more about practise for me as i live about 40 miles from Manchester, so the numbers aren't a great deal of use for me, tho Guitar Whizz lives quite a bit closer.
We started just doing warm ups, as both of us were a bit rusty. By warm ups, i mean just going up to girls and asking a simple question, like directions. I found this realy helped for getting me in the mindset for approaching.
Then we moved on to testing out various different openers. One which we found worked particularly well was to explain that we were just visiting for the day and ask for reccommendations for good places to go out in the evening. We'd originally intended this just as a warm up but it worked really well for developing further convo, so we used it quite a lot.
It was through this opener that i got my first number. We approached these 2 girls (HB9 and HB7) sitting down with shopping bags on the grass. We managed to develop the convo really well and i noticed that the HB9 was giving me loads of IOI. We stupidly left without closing and Guitar Whizz was going to me 'You should have closed that girl, she was well into you', and we looked back and they were looking back at us. So 10 minutes later, we wandered back over and i got the number of the HB9 (Lydia). She was like 'Oh do you want it?', and I'm like 'yeh i do, but only if you actually want to give me it!' - i find this is an excellent way of closing as it puts the emphasis on her, basically asking her if shes interesting in me.
Other approaches that we tried in the street were the 'Are you single?' line, another direct approach - going 'Hey i noticed you as i was passing and wanted to meet you' (this is sh!te IMO as its not taken seriously and doesnt lead to further convo at all - i personaly think that a good convo is key to getting the close on a cold approach) and the one about asking about a top or summat shes wearing, saying 'my sister would love summat like that for her birthday' (I wasn't that keen on thsi one either to be honest).
Tho I got my 2nd number through the 'Are you single?' line, she was a sleek HB8, slightly dark, when i was like 'Do you mind if i ask you a question?', she was like 'ooh, is it about my hair?', and we talked for like 30 seconds before i was like 'no, i was actually gonna ask you if you're single', she was like 'yes i am actually', and i was like 'thats cool, cos i noticed you passing, thought you were cute so decided i wanted to meet you'. She smiled and laughed and then we started a convo that went on for ages, she actually asked me if i'd done modelling before as she was involved in some sort of modelling company and wsa like 'you might be able to do that' and she gave me her business card and said to give her a ring. So that number was a bit different as it was on business reasons but she was very receptive to my approach and i reckoned i could have got it anyway.
The best approaches tho IMO were when we approached pairs of women who were sitting down at a table with the simple line 'hey girls, do you mind if we join you?' We were in the food court near the station and sat down with 2 hot girls (HB8.5 and HB8 IMO) who were eating and they were very receptive to us. The HB8.5 (Clara) had just had a tattoo done so that led to v easy c+f and kino, i was like 'would it hurt if i poked you there?' and moved to give her a good hard jab, she grabbed my hand and was like 'don't you fvcking dare, i will literally kill you' lol. They seemed to have good IL and they offered to show us where thsi bar was that they recommended to us even tho it was a good 10 mins walk away, i number closed both of them, but passed on Sophie's (HB8) number to Guitar Whizz, as he was into her, i migt actually give Clara a call anyway.
In one of the bars we went to, we did an identical approachon 2 girls sitting at a table in the corner. They were Geordies and sisters and very receptive to us, probably both HB7) Had a drink with them for about 45 minutes and number closed one of them at the end 'in case we're around here again sometime'. Bit of a shame we had to get trains back at 11 cos they had their own flat like 1 mins walk away, i reckon we could have got them back had we not had to go.
So thats the 5 numbers that I got yesterday, Guitar Whizz got 2 from an approach he did on 2 girls at a table in Yates', i'll let him describe it when he replies to the thread tho.
It certainly wasn't just me approaching either, tho it might seem like that from the ones i've described above. We probably did about 15 each over the course of the day. But Guitar Whizz will describe the approaches he made when he replies.
One other approach which i discovered worked very well was in a HMV - a girl (HB7) was checking out an album, so i was like 'you checking out my latest release? You seen my new album? - its just over there'. The bluff kinda fell apart when she asked me what my musical masterpiece was called and i couldn't think of a name for it! But both me and Guitar Whizz had a real good chat with her and her mate and we both agreed we really should have closed, she was well into us.
That approach could easily be adapted in lots of different types of shops too, so its a great one to have up your sleve.
Finally, some things i learnt/realised from yesterday:
1. Anyone who says cold approaches don't work in the UK is talking b0llocks.
2. Its a great help to sarge with somebody else - challenging each other to approach certain women and use certain openers is great motivation
3. 'Warm ups' are important when you start for getting you in the state for aproaching.
4. Its not so much the opener you use but the way you come across and how well you carry the convesation thats important.
5. Having said that, certain openers do work better than others. Its good to find out what works well for you and what doesn't IMO
6. You need to have a laugh with approaches and not take them ultra seriously.
Yesterday I went on an all day sarging session in Manchester with another guy from this site, Guitar Whizz. In keeping with the recent trend on the board, I'm going to write a field report. Guitar Whizz will add his perspective in a day or 2 as well.
The basis of the day was that we spent most the afternoon going round the cetre of Manchester, doing street and shop approaches, and then moved into some bars about 8 to get some further practise.
It was a pretty successful day as we got 7 numbers between us, all of pretty hot girls. The day was more about practise for me as i live about 40 miles from Manchester, so the numbers aren't a great deal of use for me, tho Guitar Whizz lives quite a bit closer.
We started just doing warm ups, as both of us were a bit rusty. By warm ups, i mean just going up to girls and asking a simple question, like directions. I found this realy helped for getting me in the mindset for approaching.
Then we moved on to testing out various different openers. One which we found worked particularly well was to explain that we were just visiting for the day and ask for reccommendations for good places to go out in the evening. We'd originally intended this just as a warm up but it worked really well for developing further convo, so we used it quite a lot.
It was through this opener that i got my first number. We approached these 2 girls (HB9 and HB7) sitting down with shopping bags on the grass. We managed to develop the convo really well and i noticed that the HB9 was giving me loads of IOI. We stupidly left without closing and Guitar Whizz was going to me 'You should have closed that girl, she was well into you', and we looked back and they were looking back at us. So 10 minutes later, we wandered back over and i got the number of the HB9 (Lydia). She was like 'Oh do you want it?', and I'm like 'yeh i do, but only if you actually want to give me it!' - i find this is an excellent way of closing as it puts the emphasis on her, basically asking her if shes interesting in me.
Other approaches that we tried in the street were the 'Are you single?' line, another direct approach - going 'Hey i noticed you as i was passing and wanted to meet you' (this is sh!te IMO as its not taken seriously and doesnt lead to further convo at all - i personaly think that a good convo is key to getting the close on a cold approach) and the one about asking about a top or summat shes wearing, saying 'my sister would love summat like that for her birthday' (I wasn't that keen on thsi one either to be honest).
Tho I got my 2nd number through the 'Are you single?' line, she was a sleek HB8, slightly dark, when i was like 'Do you mind if i ask you a question?', she was like 'ooh, is it about my hair?', and we talked for like 30 seconds before i was like 'no, i was actually gonna ask you if you're single', she was like 'yes i am actually', and i was like 'thats cool, cos i noticed you passing, thought you were cute so decided i wanted to meet you'. She smiled and laughed and then we started a convo that went on for ages, she actually asked me if i'd done modelling before as she was involved in some sort of modelling company and wsa like 'you might be able to do that' and she gave me her business card and said to give her a ring. So that number was a bit different as it was on business reasons but she was very receptive to my approach and i reckoned i could have got it anyway.
The best approaches tho IMO were when we approached pairs of women who were sitting down at a table with the simple line 'hey girls, do you mind if we join you?' We were in the food court near the station and sat down with 2 hot girls (HB8.5 and HB8 IMO) who were eating and they were very receptive to us. The HB8.5 (Clara) had just had a tattoo done so that led to v easy c+f and kino, i was like 'would it hurt if i poked you there?' and moved to give her a good hard jab, she grabbed my hand and was like 'don't you fvcking dare, i will literally kill you' lol. They seemed to have good IL and they offered to show us where thsi bar was that they recommended to us even tho it was a good 10 mins walk away, i number closed both of them, but passed on Sophie's (HB8) number to Guitar Whizz, as he was into her, i migt actually give Clara a call anyway.
In one of the bars we went to, we did an identical approachon 2 girls sitting at a table in the corner. They were Geordies and sisters and very receptive to us, probably both HB7) Had a drink with them for about 45 minutes and number closed one of them at the end 'in case we're around here again sometime'. Bit of a shame we had to get trains back at 11 cos they had their own flat like 1 mins walk away, i reckon we could have got them back had we not had to go.
So thats the 5 numbers that I got yesterday, Guitar Whizz got 2 from an approach he did on 2 girls at a table in Yates', i'll let him describe it when he replies to the thread tho.
It certainly wasn't just me approaching either, tho it might seem like that from the ones i've described above. We probably did about 15 each over the course of the day. But Guitar Whizz will describe the approaches he made when he replies.
One other approach which i discovered worked very well was in a HMV - a girl (HB7) was checking out an album, so i was like 'you checking out my latest release? You seen my new album? - its just over there'. The bluff kinda fell apart when she asked me what my musical masterpiece was called and i couldn't think of a name for it! But both me and Guitar Whizz had a real good chat with her and her mate and we both agreed we really should have closed, she was well into us.
That approach could easily be adapted in lots of different types of shops too, so its a great one to have up your sleve.
Finally, some things i learnt/realised from yesterday:
1. Anyone who says cold approaches don't work in the UK is talking b0llocks.
2. Its a great help to sarge with somebody else - challenging each other to approach certain women and use certain openers is great motivation
3. 'Warm ups' are important when you start for getting you in the state for aproaching.
4. Its not so much the opener you use but the way you come across and how well you carry the convesation thats important.
5. Having said that, certain openers do work better than others. Its good to find out what works well for you and what doesn't IMO
6. You need to have a laugh with approaches and not take them ultra seriously.
i'm gonna say something along those lines sometime...nice laughable ice breaker