Field Report: My fourth night out with Matt ala Casanova.

[becker]

Drex,

I'm glad that you see the potential problem, that's what's important. Too bad her daughter is married.

However, you should be able to find some older folk at the country club who have children who come in that are your age. I think that you should definitely try to work that a little.

As for the co-worker, I'd just make sure to be careful since you need to work with her. Seems like you have the right idea, but you're looking in the wrong places. If you go to school right now, look there.

Also, your plan to tell her before having sex with her to set things straight, I'll tell you right now, her word will not mean sh*t, especially if both you and her both want each other. You and her will agree to anything at that point. Doesn't mean she'll keep her word indefinitely. The only way I see something like this working is if you're actually looking for a committed relationship with this mom, which I don't think you are. You will need to keep yourself at bay with this older woman. I'm trying to imagine it now, and as I said, I've never been with an older woman, but there's something about it that is pretty darn tempting. Maybe it's the whole hot mom thing. I definitely have a weak spot for hot moms too. Regardless, I also have the common sense to resist, so that's all I suggest that you do.

 

[Slickster]

Holy crap you guys.

Don't think too much about this. You're reading way too much into it.

This milf could change her mind about Drex at any moment. She may wake up and think what am I doing he's way too young. She's not a child. If she's looking for a lay thats fine. You have no clue what she wants so quit speculating.

You guys are all talking about him or her getting too attached, stalking, being f-buddies, her daughter, blah blah.

He hasn't even screwed her yet! Besides its all a learning experience and thats what Drex needs.

Drex forget about all this crap going on in your head. Step up to the plate. F*ck her and that's it. See where it goes from there. Honestly you guys sound like a bunch of overanalytical women here. Sorry.

Focus on taking that first step. Take it and once you do the next will be revealed. Don't have too many expectations.

She could change her tune at any time before or after you sex her so my advice is do it and let the cards fall where they may.

ZeeOwl gave you great advice for dealing with older women I suggest you listen to his experience. Its just sex, not the whole world here.

 

[becker]

I'm all for learning by experience, but to me, there seems to be a better way to do this than to screw a 45 year old mom with a daughter older than you.

 

[Matt ala Casanova]

Personally....I think he should fvck her because he needs to get that wax off his d!ck!

No strings attached, just straight s3x. Drex in my opinion will reach a new plateau as a potential DJ by getting it out of his system.

M.A.C.

 

[becker]

M.A.C.,

I agree that it would be great if there were no strings attached, but isn't it usually these types of situations where there WILL likely be strings attached? If these aren't the ones where you're in for more than you bargained for, I can't imagine what is.

 

[Golden Arms]

Drex - if I was you, I'd do a background check to make sure she doesn't have any ex-husbands who are Heisman Trophy winners, and if she does, I wouldn't be stopping by her place any time soon to drop off any sun glasses

 

[Slickster]

Originally posted by becker
M.A.C.,

I agree that it would be great if there were no strings attached, but isn't it usually these types of situations where there WILL likely be strings attached? If these aren't the ones where you're in for more than you bargained for, I can't imagine what is.

I disagree Becker. A young chick is more likely to get all clingy and want a bf or a relationship out of sex. This chick probably just wants a lay and knows realistically that a relationship with a guy way younger than her would never work.

 

[becker]

Slickster,

The guys who I've known who have gone for older women have all basically experienced this thing where the woman starts looking for more than just a quick lay. To me, no matter what the age, women are women, and eventually, they all look for more. I have never seen an exception except on television or in a movie, and we all know how accurate that is.

 

[MR_PERFECT]

Originally posted by Matt ala Casanova
Personally....I think he should fvck her because he needs to get that wax off his d!ck!

No strings attached, just straight s3x. Drex in my opinion will reach a new plateau as a potential DJ by getting it out of his system.

M.A.C.

He's right Drex, having sex will make you more relaxed when it comes to dealing with women.

 

[A1SteakSauce]

Let the horny 45 year old b!tch screw your brains out. Women are women and you want -- actually, need -- the experience. You are the one who's gonna fall in love being the first hot hookup, and an older woman may treat you more decently and abuse you less than a young one. Or, she may be a conniving wench, so make sure your buddies keep an eye on you, but she ought to be more mature and less in need of using you for things she already has. Anyway, you gotta look out for yourself, first, and what you need is some hot wet pvssy dripping all over you.

A1

Oh, and having completely slaughtered the nice guy inside of me (I hope, he keeps coming back, then I kill him again, goddam), I hasten to add you should do the daughter, too. In fact, in order not to get them too jealous, you should probably make it a threesome. Damn, can you imagine, a mother daughter combo, that would really blow your mind, not to mention the rest . . .

 

[Drex]

So Matt and I have not gone out for a while due to busy schedules but we did hang out last night just to shoot some pool and grab a bite to eat. Not much DJing went on other than some hottie that came to visit Matt. She's his little HB that keeps him occupied at work (they work together), christ, he's even getting a piece of ass at work apparently. Anyways, I guess Matt's been talking with another local guy on the board and the 3 of us are gonna go out some time soon so look for new FRs soon!

 

[Lionheart]

To the people that have been saying : Just do it dude, it's not that hard talking to women, talking to women is not the problem, hitting on them IS.

You people have NO idea how hard it is to attempt to pick girls up with low confidence and / or damaged self image.
When you finally roll with it, and get rejected - it SNOWBALLS, after 10 rejections you just don't even want to try anymore.

I know so many guys, who would be great people if they could get laid, the game is so unfair.

It's the same with me, I have given up trying to pick up women.

I will never be able to do the DJ thing off the bat, I know I can never be a DJ until I have had a girl f*** me, you have to be brought into the system or find a good entrypoint, like a virgin girl you connect with, or in this case a 45 YO FB.

It's ok for the good looking adonis', they get brought into the system faster by women who wil overlook their bumbling ineptitude because they are smokin'.

Guys who are average looking (Like myself) have a real rough time, no woman is gonna **** an average looking guy when she can do an adonis.

Also while their is self-improvement, even that becomes tiring after a while when you see NO POSITIVE RESULTS.

It's the ancient adage "Can't get experience without a job, can't get a job without experience."

I turned a UG 4 with a great personality down, and now I look back and think that I was wrong - it would have been a step up on the ladder.

To DREX - FVCK THAT WOMAN, EVERYTHING WILL CHANGE AFTERWARDS.


Lion - I don't hate the players, but I do hate the 'game' (and i'm beginning to hate the quarry.)

 

[One on One]

I don't think its possible to seriously give self improvement an effort and not see positive results. Make sure your self improvement is relatively specific - write it down, make a schedule for yourself.

 

[Ricky]

Drex did you ever do that older lady. I did one when I was 23 and she was 46. Double my age and I was a virgin.

Things were cool but it went on way too long. That wasn't good for me. I won't post the other painful details, but it did almost get to stalker status when I tried to cut things off.

But you if you can get in and get out with a few lays, then more power to you. It's just that no strings attached sex is pretty addictive, until it becomes strings attached sex.

 

[Drex]

Nah that older lady thing was 2 months ago. I did end up going to where she worked to get my haircut a few days after I met her just to get a second look at her. While she was still good looking for her age...she definately looked more like 45 the next time I saw her and was pretty much turned off. So I got my hair cut and that was that. Besides, she didnt even flirt with me when I was there, she was so busy.

 

[B9]

I talked with another aspiring DJ about this recently (I consider myself the same, btw) and am gonna paraphrase what I said then here:

Drex, you gotta change your perspective on being rejected.

Introducing the Zen concept of guest and host:

Identification with thought is the problem. Of course you are gonna get scared and chicken out if you identify yourself with it, thinking "I am gonna be rejected."

Those thoughts are the guest being mistaken for the host. Soimewhere along the line, some AFC wimp was allowed into your house and what more is, he is now being confused for the master of the house! He is not, he is a guest and not wanted. Those thoughts aren't you. On the contrary, they are an invasion into your own house, preventing you from fully actualising your potential.

That voice that is scared of rejection isn't gonna like it when you approach women. It's horrible! That is perfectly ok. If he doesn't like it, he is free to leave. In fact, we WANT to be making it uncomfortable for that AFC voice to be hanging around in our minds, because he isn't really welcome anymore.

Anyway, it sounds like you have some great help with Matt a la Cassanova. Keep up that willingness to change. That is the fundamental requisite for actually changing.

 

[One on One]

Originally posted by B9
I talked with another aspiring DJ about this recently (I consider myself the same, btw) and am gonna paraphrase what I said then here:

Drex, you gotta change your perspective on being rejected.

Introducing the Zen concept of guest and host:

Identification with thought is the problem. Of course you are gonna get scared and chicken out if you identify yourself with it, thinking "I am gonna be rejected."

Those thoughts are the guest being mistaken for the host. Soimewhere along the line, some AFC wimp was allowed into your house and what more is, he is now being confused for the master of the house! He is not, he is a guest and not wanted. Those thoughts aren't you. On the contrary, they are an invasion into your own house, preventing you from fully actualising your potential.

That voice that is scared of rejection isn't gonna like it when you approach women. It's horrible! That is perfectly ok. If he doesn't like it, he is free to leave. In fact, we WANT to be making it uncomfortable for that AFC voice to be hanging around in our minds, because he isn't really welcome anymore.

Anyway, it sounds like you have some great help with Matt a la Cassanova. Keep up that willingness to change. That is the fundamental requisite for actually changing.

Hey, you got any zen resources? You seem like you know your ****.

 

[drixsa]

Drex,

just read the week 4 i had been keepin up with your posts but i missed this last one

from the way you write and your actions that you have written you seem to becoming much more DJ.

you just have a little trob. with the cold approaches

your at a bar doesnt a drink or 2 help to loosen you up

when i do cold approaches at a bar/wherever everyone becomes my grandparent/friend

i stop caring about phone numbers end results or sex and just live for a good conversation and a good time

do you and matt do warmups b4 you go out?

thats somethin that ive always felt is important espically early on

waitin for week 5

 

[chlywly]

DUDE HIT THAT 40 YEAR OLD LIKE ITS LAST CHANCE TO LIVE!

Drex, keep trucking buddy you're doing a good job Matt great job as well for helping him out. Friendship is unconditional. It's love...

Don't listen to people like Nismo, there will always be a critic, he just seems sour and unhappy with something about his own life; so finds the need to bash on others. Theres people like that everywhere.

Keep doing what you're doing,

Know thyself.

 

[DJ Jr.]

Originally posted by Pimp-sicle


You can take my advice or laugh at it, but I think your a rookie trying to hang with the pros. There's no chance of that happening.


PIMP

I liked your advice til you threw in the dig...confident folks dont need to throw digs...insecure people throw digs because they have to in order to make themseleves feel like "the man".

Not an insult...just something to think about.