Field Report#11 : Date with girl walking around campus

[Ryan]

1) The Girl

• 19 year old ---> Young way I like em
• Type-->> broke af in hairdressing school, kinda dumb, from a broken family.
• Looks: 5 ( I know I take what I can get , slightly chubby.

2) How we met

• Matched on Tinder on Thursday ...then I escalated to text (I think its better than Whatsapp, since on WA ppl can see when you are online)...didnt even expect a date tonight, so it was like a random date---> I asked what she was doing, she replied "nothing" (just at home sleeping and playing xbox), just bought a car lets go for a ride, ill pick you up at 8. I didn't expect her to say yes, but she actually did , and texted me her address where I could pick her up
• Told her I would be going to lcbo, what does she like to drink? She says "she doesnt drink" (dad is an alkie)

3) The date

• I show up 30min late (8h30), black biker jacket, cologne and beer ( I figured she was the slutty type b/c of the dyed purple hair). I notice she is not as attractive as in her pic. While we are driving to campus -->> She is laughing at all my jokes, we make small talk.
• We walk around campus, I try to go a secluded area to have my beer, we find these tables in a secluded area, I open my beer, I ask about her tattoo, small talk, KINO: asked her if I can take a look at her ring, and held her hands for a bit, then I suggested to keep walking around
• I take her to an area in the back, we sit down, chat some more, played the secrets game ( read it in some thread not sure if it was on sosuave or not, you ask a question the person has to tell the truth):

HER: How many girls you had a relationship with?
ME: Four, what about you?
HER: Two , but both long term
ME: Have you ever kissed a girl?
HER: Yes, have you ever kissed a guy?
ME: Fk NO! (she laughed), ok maybe I shouldnt ask this, but favourite position? I can tell doggystyle?
Her: Yes it is, Yours
ME: Her on top

• put my arm around her (in my head I am thinking how to segue into a kiss), I notice she keeps looking at her phone. Then I am like can I see your eyes for a bit, she smiles, I did triangular gaze and then kissed her. She ended the kiss.
• WE chat some more, she mentions that she uses her hands a lot to cut hair, I comment, oh you must be really good with your hands then, she bursts out laughing "Oh I get the reference" (DTF?) , I kiss her again, she always ends the kiss first, I'm rubbing her waist with my other hand . She complains my hands are cold, so I say " I know a way to warm them up", so I slap her ass, she laughs (DTF!)
• Then she mentions she is tired, and asks if we can go in 20 min, I'm like sure. We walk around "lost" trying to figure out how to get out (I know the way, Im just pretending I dont so I can have more time), I try to ask a few questions from that list marmel posted up, I notice she less engaged in the conversation now. I held her hand for a bit (looks too clingy?)
• We get to the car, I ask if I can wait a bit before I drive, she is ok, we talk some more, and I am rubbing her neck (she enjoys it) , I go for another kiss, she cuts it short saying she is tired, then asks if I am ok to drive, and how long it usually takes me to sober up (relax it was only 1 beer) I start the car.
• On the way home we talk, I notice she is less interested in talking than earlier. I ask her what she is doing tommorrow (not to set up a date just conversation), and she says she is going to see her sister, when I drop her off I ask if I can come in to pee because I really need to,l she says "her parents wont let me", then she says "Nice meeting you", and offers me her hand (yeah I know), but I go for a kiss (it was a quick kiss), and she leaves. Time is like 22h40.

4) Aftermath

• Will see if she blocks me or not, Will attempt to text her again next weekend, or maybe tuesday.

Ok so rate and critique?

Tell us what you would of done different?

Thank you for your time.

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[RichardTheFrog]

Completely pointless waste of time.

 

[sph21]

played the secrets game

It feels like you were trying to interrogate her. It feels unnatural to me. When I'm on a date, I always go with something natural & fun to do.

I notice she keeps looking at her phone.

Based on my experiences with girls while I was dating them, it's always a red flag if she focuses more on the phone than the date itself. You should've ended the date faster. What happened next is the proof of it.

Well, at least you're bold enough to post your experiences here.

It's funny how I don't get any alert from your tag.

 

[Ryan]

Completely pointless waste of time.

why how? what would you of done differently?

 

[MrWood]

i get the feeling these girls are sensing you only care about running "techniques" on them.
Seems you get good inital responses... but they die before you get the girl back to car/home.

I think that by ignoring the anti-slut moves, they get creeped out... I think the innuendos are way over the top

I comment, oh you must be really good with your hands then,

• " I know a way to warm them up", so I slap her ass, she laughs (DTF!)

• Then she mentions she is tired

I ask if I can wait a bit before I drive, she is ok, we talk some more, and I am rubbing her neck (she enjoys it) , I go for another kiss, she cuts it short

she did not enjoy it, or your lame tactic

offensive techniques and tactics are nothing if you cannot read the enemy's state of readiness and react to an ever changing dynamic battlefield

you are playing chess, and your first 5 moves are exactly the same, every-time... checkmate.

 

[Ryan]

i get the feeling these girls are sensing you only care about running "techniques" on them.
Seems you get good inital responses... but they die before you get the girl back to car/home.

I think that by ignoring the anti-slut moves, they get creeped out... I think the innuendos are way over the top



she did not enjoy it, or your lame tactic

offensive techniques and tactics are nothing if you cannot read the enemy's state of readiness and react to an ever changing dynamic battlefield

you are playing chess, and your first 5 moves are exactly the same, every-time... checkmate.

Please elaborate. What were her anti slut moves?

Explain what you would of done different?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

why how? what would you of done differently?

Not go out with a fat girl.

 

[Ryan]

Not go out with a fat girl.

lol shes slightly chubby.

ok hypothetically if she was decent looking what would you of done?

 

[Murk]

Walking around a campus and drinking one beer with a sober 5/10 with an alcoholic dad, trying to escalate to sex in 2 hours... Just seems a bit of an ask.

You did well by the sound of it up until you started kissing her too long, keep it brief if she cut you off the first time, maybe second time go to kiss, get close and pull back, tease her, look in her eyes, look at her lips, grab her ass and hips when you do kiss. You need to turn this women on not annoy her.

Generally this read better than the other reports you’ve made. I went on a bumble date Friday and I tried to kiss the girl within a couple hours and she recoiled back and wouldn’t let me, I knew she was playing hard to get though because we were already flirting, drinking, touching and shortly after we kissed and couldn’t stop. You are rushing things, it’s less the time frame and more not going through previous kino steps and building enough attraction before you’re trying to the trigger.

If it doesn’t feel at a stage to go for a kiss, then by doing so you just kill the moment and undo your hard work - you can bounce back from this easily by being attractive and having game, but you seem to get nexted and kill the attraction so be very careful when doing this.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

lol shes slightly chubby.

ok hypothetically if she was decent looking what would you of done?

Ask her if she wanted to give you head.

Tell her you'll give her $300. That's way more than a normal escort would charge, but sometimes regular girls would need some coaxing.

Tell her you don't have time for games so if she isn't gonna suck your d1ck, then she should just leave. Don't give her a ride home if she doesn't give you head. Make her uber.

 

[MrWood]

give me 300 and I will masturbate, alone.

 

[marmel75]

So you go on a date with an ugly chick with family issues and nothing going for her? Wow...you are really scraping the bottom.of the barrel arent you?

 

[sazc]

Walking around a campus and drinking one beer with a sober 5/10 with an alcoholic dad, trying to escalate to sex in 2 hours... Just seems a bit of an ask.

OMG YES!

It's quite possible that you are completely lacking EMPATHY with these females. They can see this and it's turning them off on you.

She told you she doesn't drink BECAUSE sure has an alcoholic father. So what do you do? You grab a six pack intending to drink on your date. The same date you are trying to impress her on. She's already not impressed.

THEN you drink a beer and move in for a kiss. So you are essentially sticking your beer laden tounge into the mouth of a female who has already expressed to you she's not into drinking. No wonder why she always ended the kisses.

The lack of empathy comes from the fact that you set up a date that would make YOU most comfortable, not her most comfortable.

Not to mention, you suggested that you were too buzzed to drive, another trigger for a female with a alcoholic father. If you knew you had to drive why were you drinking at all? Shes thinking.

I get the fact that you have anxiety on dates and feel as if you need a beer or two to calm down. But you can't go into these dates ONLY catering to your own needs, and expect to get the lay, or a second date. As others have said, in most cases, you need to make the woman feel comfortable if there is a chance of sex on the first date, and/or a second date.

The other thing I will mention is, you may want to screen better. Females with drunks as father's probably don't have the best relationship model. Take all information she tells you into account.

 

[MrWood]

I don't know if I can take this post seriously...

why not? its on the mark.

 

[Ryan]

Ask her if she wanted to give you head.

Tell her you'll give her $300. That's way more than a normal escort would charge, but sometimes regular girls would need some coaxing.

Tell her you don't have time for games so if she isn't gonna suck your d1ck, then she should just leave. Don't give her a ride home if she doesn't give you head. Make her uber.

seriously?!?

 

[Ryan]

why not? its on the mark.

Sorry I was referring to the one where the guy, suggests I pay 300 for BJ..

Tell me what steps you would of done differently?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

seriously?!?

Lol. I don't fvcking know.

Maybe just whip your d1ck out and hope she's d1ck starved.

 

[MrWood]

Tell me what steps you would of done differently?

you keep saying that

 

[Ryan]

you keep saying that

because I want to know how you would of handled it differently since you are a "don juan".....

 

[Ryan]

i give you credit for trying. youll make far more progress this way

something doesnt jive with you. cant quite place it but even i can sense it with how you describe things and how you come off. not saying theres something wrong with you, but theres probably a schism somewhere between how you look or talk and how you act.

You’re pushing way too hard in these initial encounters. even interested girls will feel doubtful with this much aggression early on. if youre looking strictly for girls that are looking to bang on first encounters, theres better ways to weed out and go about it.

other than that, you need to just chill and relax on these "Dates" learn to just plant seeds with the women you meet. if youre looking for first time lays, its simply gonna be a nmumbers game. also, you can run perfect game and it wont matter. if a girls not feelin it shes not feelin it. and if youre looking for same night lays, youre gonna have to be much bolder, after deciding its best to just go all in of course.

dont hit on sub par girls either. good looking women rsepond better to being gamed.

this one was def way better than the first one tho.

Thank you for your input.

What is it about me that made you come to this revelation? It has to be somethign that made you say that about my posts, seeing you have neither 1) seen 2) heard me.

How do I plant "seeds"?

I think I am focussed too much on the outcome ---> instead of just enjoying the date