Feminism in Video games

[LiveFreeX]

I've just bought an XBOX again and I guess I didn't notice this before but almost every damn game I play has some stupid *****, whining, and *****ing and ordering around the main characters... Maybe that's because my wife is a super feminine asian and very supportive. I have yet to see her archetype represented in a game.



Devil's Cartel (Army of Two): The secondary character and whole point of the story revolves around this one yappy mexican broad who is tough as nails and tells you to suck it up every 5 minutes.



Crysis 3: The leader of the revolution is a woman who is constantly on your comms calling you 'hardware' and telling you that you don't matter and you'll respect her. At first you don't like it but then eventually your character says "I've grown to like her"... later on she tells this tough warrior guy when he's having trouble "suck it up". The main computer AI is also an older woman who barks out orders to all the soldiers.



Bulletstorm: The whole point of this game is to rescue a butch soldier who naggs, *****es and insults you while you are trying to play. The main character is endlessly trying to impress her and she punches and beats him up while throwing insults on him and telling him she doesn't need him.



Halo: Cortana is endlessly nagging the Chief as to what he should and shouldn't be doing.



Fallout 3: At the end the brotherhood of steel is run by a woman who tells you to go into a reactor (and die) to shut it off. You have two decisions, you can selflessly shut it down and create a better life for her... you die. OR you can choose the bad ending and you send her in to do it but get pretty much the same ending with bad music. She of course is distrustful, *****es and nags you the whole way through once you meet her.



XCOM: The scientist is a german woman who nags the commander once in awhile.



XCOM The Bureau (the New game): A butchy military girl gives orders to the main agent and he 'grows to like her' cause she's 'fiesty'.



Fable 3: The main resistance fighter is a butchy black woman with dreadlocks who draws up all the plans and is always standing up for whats right.



Fable 2: The secondary character is a strong woman with a hammer that follows you around and nags you.



Prototype: The secondary character is your super smart, hip, goth sister who is the brains of the operation and you take orders from.



Portal 2: The Computer AI is a sadistic mothering figure who is constantly trying to torture the players, *****es and nags and makes passive aggressive remarks and digs at you.



Aliens Colonial Marines: Quest centers around trying to find a cure for this butch black marine who treats you and her love interest like sh1t.



Dark Void: Your partner is a military agent (woman) who is also a scientist and is naggy and whiny throughout the entire game.



Saints Row: The secondary character is a bad criminal mastermind (woman) who nags and *****es about your skill while you try to save her.



Terminator Salvation: Main scientist and secondary character is a freedom fighting woman who, surprise, nags and *****es about your skill and is generally distrustful of you, consistently barks orders at you.



Half Life 2: The scientists daughter is a black, freedom fighting rough girl smart aleck who spends the entire game ordering you around.



Fuse: 4 super soldiers two men and two women fight to acquire alien technology, the men spend the story taking orders from the super tough ninja-cyber women characters.

Space Pirates VS Zombies: The ship's scientist is a *****y woman who is constantly back talking the commander and telling him how stupid he is.

Command & Conquer: Somehow a woman is in charge of GDI's operations and she is of course the brains and your 'commanding officer'.


I can hardly think of a game today that doesn't have some tough, smart alecky white or black woman telling men what they should do and nagging the main characters skills and whatever. Either this is a cultural thing or its being planned to re-educate the masses. Can you imagine if you were playing super mario bros and the princess was constantly *****ing and nagging everytime you made a jump or tried something new. Its a new thing in movies, tv, video games... there's always a smart alecky woman who is the brains of the operation, ordering around a strong silent hero type... and somewhere at the end the man falls in love with this ***** and they live happily ever after.



Something wrong here.



First of all, I don't know how many times I've said to myself... if I were the main character and everything revolved around me getting from point a to point b...and there was this naggy piece of ****, *****ing and complaining... I would simply drop my **** and bug out. What would she do then? Use her girl power to do it herself? Or nag at me more to pick up the gun and so on and so forth... why the fvk would I want to complete a mission for a woman like this.... and to top it off the villains are always the ones who 'don't respect women' and don't take her crap. At one point in devil's cartel the villain blows the head off the woman... my god, what a relief that was... then the main character spends the entire game 'getting revenge' for said *****y girl who never really showed an romantic interest in him.

What message are they trying to send to young minds?


-Women are natural leaders

-Women are the brains

-It is natural for women to disrespect men

-You are nothing without a woman authority figure

-If you just put up with enough bs, you too can have a girlfriend and live happily ever after

 

[LiveFreeX]

http://news.yahoo.com/female-general-ability-confidence-propel-career-230155718.html

Would you follow her into battle? This is the new face of command.

 

[Married Buried]

Go play Tomb Raider and enjoy it. The game was badass. I don't give 2 sh!ts about the dialogue.

 

[Fatal Jay]

Lol I never notice those female characters doing that in all those games you mention.

If you ever played red dead redemption its also a main female character that talk trash like that.

 

[Married Buried]

This is not some grand feminist conspiracy. Don't women have money and play games too?

And, if you:

just bought an XBOX again

How do you have time to play all those games? I own 3 games, and have 1 hour before work to play every day. I counted 18 games in the OP.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Work just a few days a week now (on salary), want to catch up on all the titles that I missed out on before my wife gets pregnant. Also teaching myself Javascript/Python and the Blender/UDK development environments, probably go back to school when we get home and finish my software engineering degree. Also getting the wife to learn it, maybe the two of us can work together.

I told you guys working in the PRC is pretty good. Just on 15 hours a week I can support myself in a beautiful 3 bedroom apartment, have good food and still manage to bank what's leftover. We live in a country club type area to boot and rent only costs 430 bucks/month. So have 4 days a week to play Xbox on a very sweet projector that also only cost 300. I don't make a ton of money any more but I'm really enjoying my life. Its a fair trade off for me, prefer relaxation over work.

I'm not bragging, you asked, I answered.

 

[Create Reality]

Play better video games. Honestly, there's no reason to buy them if they don't make you feel happy.

 

[BeDJ]

Create Reality,

Welcome back. I would love to know how life was for you over the past 10 years!

 

[MaddXMan]

You pay attention to the story? I can't press X fast enough when a cut scene comes on.

Don't forget what playing games is all about: Fragging noobs

 

[Poonani Maker]

This promotional of a new one has the girl DECIDING where the two dudes should go during the game...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njfj6KwEAfg

yeah right

 

[Married Buried]

This promotional of a new one has the girl DECIDING where the two dudes should go during the game...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njfj6KwEAfg

yeah right

I'm looking forward to Watchdogs on the PS4 in a couple months.

http://watchdogs.ubi.com/watchdogs/en-us/home/index.aspx

 

[Jaylan]

Lol is OP serious? Theres plenty of misogyny is video games, and video games largely target men. Given the rise of female gamers in the last several years, youve actually seen a movement to include women in gaming more so than as just sex props.

Its why several gaming shows like E3, have gotten rid of "booth girls". And one idiot editor a year or two ago lost his job for trying to label a respected female member of the gaming industry as one.

For every instance of feminism in gaming, I can show you numerous examples of misogyny or degradation of women. Dont be so blind, it happens. Dont focus on just the so called feminism. With the way women are treated in GTA games, or portrayed in the Witcher...and lets not forget the skimpy outfits and boob bouncing technology that was perfected in the Dead or Alive series.

So as I said, there are legitimate gripes women gamers have about how women are portrated and who the games target. My point is that you should look at the whole picture. Feminism isnt the big elephant in the room in the gaming industry. Quite the opposite.

And lets not even get into the uproar of that suggestive "almost a rape scene" scene from the last Tomb Raider game. You may have some valid points OP, but you cant outright ignore the other side of the coin as well. Id say just play the games, have fun, and stop trying to find a way to blame feminism for something. Guys here spend too much time looking for a way to whine about feminism, the "gay agenda", or racial minorities in some way.

 

[Jaylan]

^You cant be serious.

So prostitutes are used and beat up, women treated with disdain, and constantly called out of their names in GTA games is because of feminism?

The way women are portrayed, and the sex scene in the Witcher is because of feminism?

The very unnecessary excessive boob bouncing and very skimpy outfits in the DOA series is because of feminism? Are you daft? Do you even know who the target demographic is for these games?

Have you EVER read interviews with guys who created or directed the DOA series? Trust me, the desires of women have NOTHING to do with how they create female characters. Especially not a Japanese game...and Japan is very behind other industrialized nations with it comes to male-female relations.

These games I mentioned are created BY men and FOR men. Female gamers are an afterthought usually in the gaming industry, and their desires or feelings are typically looked over.

If men were constantly secondary through away character who were only good for sex or being push over in video games, Im sure many here would be running around crying misandry. Just look at the examples OP gave. If you want I can go through numerous example of the same things happening, but to female characters.

Dont be so blind, and dont falsely try to blame feminism for the way men portray females in games and how they treat female gamers.

 

[Jaylan]

^You dont even see your own bias.

The point is that women arent portrayed positively in the bulk of video games. And female gamers are largely ignored by the industry. Feminism has had no influence on either of these things.

Its funny how guys like you are quick to b!tch about feminism, and how men are portrayed in media...but here you have an industry that clearly portrays women in mostly one typical light, and also ignores its female audience, yet you choose to ignore this and try and blame feminism for how the video game industry behaves.

So you dudes can whine about Homer Simpson and Al Bundy (ive seen that here a lot), but how dare anyone complain about hookers and lame ditzy secondary characters? The next time I see you whine about misandry or feminism, Ill be prepared with the lame "objectivity" excuse you just tried to use.

PS - I dont give a damn what feminists think about Miley Cyrus. The little girl is trying to hard to be a provocative skank now. I couldnt really give a damn though.

 

[JoeMarron]

Spoilers! Oh and neg rep for playing that garbage game Terminator Salvation lol.

and lets not forget the skimpy outfits and boob bouncing technology that was perfected in the Dead or Alive series.

Did you just complain about boob bouncing technology..gtfo

 

[Jaylan]

^Way to miss the point of my post kid. Try reading the entire post with comprehension of the total argument. Dont single out a singular example without understanding whats being said.

 

[MaddXMan]

I think the game developers know their audience...they came from that audience:

Nerds. Shy nerds too scared to talk to a woman as a teen. They wish some bold stong attractive woman would come and pick them out, initiate contact and romance. This manifests itself as an idealized dominant superwoman with enormous T&A (games, comics, cosplay etc).

But the superwoman never comes, and the nerd boys grow into creepy awkard IT/tech support geeks.

So it's not feminism....it's the sexual fustration of nerds that brings about the bouncing t!ts and a$$. They create the idealized female images they long for...but since they know they will never get that, they give her a crappy personality as a sort of compensation I guess.

 

[Epimanes]

Who has time to play all those video games? Shouldn't you be doing something a bit more productive in real life? Real men don't have time to play video games very often. They are either fvcking their wives or gf"s, looking for ways to fvck said wife or gf or spending time with their kids or out in their jobs making money or hanging out with their buddies.. And if the season is right killing wild game animals to fill their freezers. Instead of shooting up pixels go out and get your gun licence and hunting licence and put some time in nature. Climb a mountain and hunt and kill a mule deer gut it and pack it off the mountain! Now that's being productive. Lol

 

[LiveFreeX]

Real men don't have time to play video games very often. They are either fvcking their wives or gf"s, looking for ways to fvck said wife or gf or spending time with their kids or out in their jobs making money or hanging out with their buddies.. And if the season is right killing wild game animals to fill their freezers. Instead of shooting up pixels go out and get your gun licence and hunting licence and put some time in nature. Climb a mountain and hunt and kill a mule deer gut it and pack it off the mountain! Now that's being productive. Lol

Looking for ways? If you were in a healthy society you would know that you should just be able to grab your wife and fvk her whenever you please. I don't have to coax my wife to fvk me. You got some warped western notion of what it means to be a man. Funny enough my wife gets horny when she beats me at 'Sega All Star Racing'. Then again she's horny all the time, I only have to look at her and she's ready to go. Sex gets boring quick and I only do it when I really want to. I dunno about you guys but twice a week is enough for me.

You've never been married have you. Real men don't play video games? I don't know, last time I checked, I was married, got sex regularly, had a decent job... climbing a mountain to kill an animal sounds like a lot of work when I can just go down the street and get a hamburger. I don't have any kids yet and my buddies all get together and play video games and magic cards sooooo??? I don't want a gun license because I don't like guns and I have no desire to kill anything for fun. I practice martial arts quite a bit but I guess that doesn't qualify me.

Making more money is important huh? What happens when you have so much that it doesn't matter whether you work or not...


Why is there this notion that real men do physical hobbies, while pvssy men play games... people have been playing Chess and Sports for a thousand years, yet you never hear anyone tell those guys that they are wasting their time. I get immense enjoyment out of games but instead I should stop what I'm doing because its not manly... , I should work harder, put my nose to the grind and earn money so that I can do what exactly??? Save money for the stuff I want to do later: like play xbox games.

Its the same notion that you should work hard while you are young, save up your money for retirement and then do everything you wanted to do when you are a 60 yearold man that you really wanted to do during your 20s. Most people never make it to retirement.

I had this cousin who put her nose to the grind, saved all her dough, bought a sweet house and 2 cars. She has money in the bank and a good retirement fund and ouch.... what the hell, gets this headache. 2 months later she's dead from a brain tumor, 35 yearsold, never did anything she wanted to do...parents told her she could save it all for retirement. Was she doing what she loved? Hell no, she was working hard in a factory and stressed out all the time.

I'll enjoy my life NOW thanks. I might not be a real man in your eyes but no one else seems to know that and I get laid like one. At least I go to bed happy every night.


Also Jaylan, the more I read your posts, the more I think you are a woman.

I've decided to start developing games in my spare time (4 Days per week). I'm getting my wife to learn 3D design, XNA and the Unreal Dev Kit... hopefully we can put something fun together that would drive Western women nuts... like a Duke Nukem for 2020 with a hyper feminine Chinese sidekick who worships the ground he walks on.. Shake it baby!!!

 

[Jaylan]

Wah wah wah

Another whiny thread from the guy who couldnt hack it in the West so he ran to Asia to find some broad who worships the security of a white penis. That real feminine love right? You were just in the right place at the right time, and for all you whine about feminism and hypergamy, I dont doubt that your wife would have shacked up with another white Joe Blow had you not shown up first.

Your posts always seem to show you as a guy looking to spite western women. I doubt they are upset to have lost out on you bro. Move on and stop trying to boast about your oh so awesome life in Asia. No one is envying you here.

At the end of the day, you really need to stop b!tching, stop trying to rub other peoples noses in it that you enjoy your so called better life in Asia (because they dont care), and just enjoy life. A person whos truly enjoying life doesnt sit and complain all the time. A person who truly feels they have the good life doesnt sit back and seem to wish that others were hating on him.

Just do you and quit complaining so often. If I was like you say, or the guy you claim to be...Id enjoy my new life in a new land, and quit worry about negatives and what others think of me. If your life is so good, and your wife is enriching and better your life, how about you TALK ABOUT THAT more often? Im sure that would be more helpful to men on this forum looking for a good woman.

Why not focus on that good, focus on positivity, instead of constantly complaining about what you feel are lower quality western women.