Feminism and the Disposable Male

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amoka said:
Lately, I have noticed nonsense threads such as this and host of others ranging from politics to race in sosuave and do not believe they belong the forum.
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amoka said:
it sickens me to know how some of you turn this tragic case into "what if it was a woman...." Common, grow some pairs and stop condoning these sort of behaviors in our society.

Not sure "man up" shaming if men are starting to wake from a zombified stupor and daring to question blind chivalry and gender imbalances is really needed.


I think it was the great scholar Axl Rose who once said " Immigrants and faggots. They make no sense to me." Just thought I'd throw that out there.
 

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Not sure "man up" shaming if men are starting to wake from a zombified stupor and daring to question blind chivalry and gender imbalances is really needed.


I think it was the great scholar Axl Rose who once said " Immigrants and faggots. They make no sense to me." Just thought I'd throw that out there.
see this is the problem when you start to get too wrapped up in this **** that you start to have depth perception issues

you said, "men are starting to wake up from azombified stuper and daring to question blind chivalry"

lol blind chivalry lol? a guy not opening the door for a woman and her children who had no place to go beucase there is a ****ing hurricane outside now qualifies as questioning "blind chivalry" really?


amoka is 1000000000000000% correct. this has nothing whatsoever to do with feminism or DJism or chauvinism. this is a ****ty man who let 2 kids die for no reason whatsoever. that's tantamount to negligent homicide. And yes the situation would be exactly the same if the guy was outside with his 2 kids and begging to get in and she wouldn't open the door. '

and then, to put the icing on the cake, you hint at the guy who brings up this perfectly rational post that he is a faggot for not agreeing with you.

let me rephrase.. the guy who hasn't made one game, tip, DJ advice thread, no field reports, no updates on him spinning plates or slaying hoes in at least 4 ****ing years and who has a tendance to max out in any post that has to do with homosexuals

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/search.php?searchid=1742697&pp=25

called another dude a faggot. I'm not calling you a faggot. i'm saying you dont' have room to talk. the last time yous aid anything that wasn't women hating related bush was in office.

you know, even if this post was about feminism, which it isn't, well it's supposed to be but as myself, amoka, warrior, solbuster have all pointed out, it's a very ****ty example for a number of reasons... how does your behavior against your fellow DJers make you any better than the *****es you are ripping against?

explain to me how calling a fellow respected member a faggot because he doesn't agree with you jive with the DJ mantra of the site

I think it was the great scholar Axl Rose who once said " Immigrants and faggots. They make no sense to me." Just thought I'd throw that out there.
the only time people ever hurl insults is when they don't have anything intelligent to add to the conversation.

you are looking for monsters where they aren't any
 

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explain to me how calling a fellow respected member a faggot because he doesn't agree with you jive with the DJ mantra of the site
Oh neck up you phony used car salesman. Nobody called anybody a faggot...yet. You just don't appreciate good music.

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lol blind chivalry lol? a guy not opening the door for a woman and her children who had no place to go beucase there is a ****ing hurricane outside now qualifies as questioning "blind chivalry" really?
Meh..where was baby daddy? But anyway I was talking about chivalry and men in general, but we can make out it was directed toward the welfare leech if that props your story up, doesn't worry me.

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amoka is 1000000000000000% correct. this has nothing whatsoever to do with feminism or DJism or chauvinism.
Oh really? So state police would still be gunning for blood if it was a woman who told a man to phuck off?

Besides that aren't you one of the resident nimrods here who constantly preaches to let go of the toilet bowl and relax as we head down the sh!tter? Your not being very congruent.
 

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This is one of my favorite videos she's produced to date. Pretty spot on IMO. A few others you should all watch are Legal Paternal Surrender and Fempocalypse.
 

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Just hold on a minute.

First of all, no hurricane made landfall. Sandy diminished to tropical storm status (at its eye) before it came ashore. Not far from the eye, I watched weather reports of 29 mph winds and such. Real, real tame. I've been in a regular thunderstorm with gusts that exceeded 105 mph (they broke a scale at a nearby weather station). It sheared off softwood trees at the roof line, and hurled limbs from hardwood trees. In a real storm like that, nobody goes down the street knocking on doors.

Second, if the water was rising, why didn't the woman stay on the top of stairs in a doorway where it was safe? Better than running around like a chicken with its head cut off. She endangered her children . . . by panicking.

Third, I lived in the Bronx back when the city was broke and buildings were being burnt out. Drug addicts were always going up and down the streets, all day and all night, shouting anything they could think of to get attention. I had to fight some off once. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the city still has large numbers of drug addicts in all boroughs and in the suburbs. Anyone who has lived in a big city has had criminals beat on your door in the middle of the night. New York has more of it.

Fourth, didn't this woman try knocking on any other doors? Didn't that street have houses one after another on both sides? Why did she single out this particular man to make trouble for? It seems to me that all the other residents also thought she was some crazy or criminal.

Fifth, what exactly are the police trying to achieve? Nobody's going to fear prosecution and open their doors to crazy knocking 15 years from now during the next storm surge. They won't even remember the case. On the other hand, this is just one of of thousands of daily reminders that men are beneath women in the eyes of the law. There are a great many civil and criminal suits in family court, arrests for allegedly abusing women, and so on.

There is ample evidence that the woman was panicking and/or acted enough like a street criminal to discourage anyone from helping her.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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I think the question is if this was a woman who wouldn't answer the door for a guy with some kids, would the police be seeking to prosecute her?
 

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zekko said:
I think the question is if this was a woman who wouldn't answer the door for a guy with some kids, would the police be seeking to prosecute her?
I don't think this constitutes a good example to ask hypothetical questions of that sort.

Firstly, I don't believe in the authenticity of the story. But if it's true, I'd like to find out what he is charged with. Then we can refer to that specific law and see if it openly distinguishes between genders.

But taking such an irrelevant (and tragic) example as a pivot to argue against Feminism, makes us look over-zealous and not believable.
 

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/02/world/americas/sandy-staten-island-brothers/index.html

Women want to proclaim loudly and often that they don't need a man in their lives....but then a disaster hits and they blame men for not being there :)

typical

and its funny all the white knight sosuavers who 'don't like the example'....looks like the truth is a little too harsh for you...maybe you should hide under the covers like the little biyaches you act like.

Have any of you white knights ever been to new york...no you haven't...your bleeding heart tone more than confirms this...its raw out there...people are killed for very very little...this woman has no one to blame but herself...

and typically woman can't take blame...they must pass it on to the nearest innocent man.

I do not buy Glenda Moors story. Maybe she is confused about where she hung onto and attempted to take refuge. But the tree is 10 feet below the fenced in yard. When she went to the door, the children had already been swept away and there was nothing anyone could do, not even the National Guard. If the homeowner had left his house to look for the children there would only have been one more fatality.....but then thats the point, women need men to die in high numbers for them to feel good about their own meager lives.

CNN says that this was not a crime but does not discuss torts.
This guy could probably be sued for wrongful death. Read the similar facts in Ploof v. Putnam.
 

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Burroughs said:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/02/world/americas/sandy-staten-island-brothers/index.html

Women want to proclaim loudly and often that they don't need a man in their lives....but then a disaster hits and they blame men for not being there :)

typical

and its funny all the white knight sosuavers who 'don't like the example'....looks like the truth is a little too harsh for you...maybe you should hide under the covers like the little biyaches you act like.

Have any of you white knights ever been to new york...no you haven't...your bleeding heart tone more than confirms this...its raw out there...people are killed for very very little...this woman has no one to blame but herself...

and typically woman can't take blame...they must pass it on to the nearest innocent man.

I do not buy Glenda Moors story. Maybe she is confused about where she hung onto and attempted to take refuge. But the tree is 10 feet below the fenced in yard. When she went to the door, the children had already been swept away and there was nothing anyone could do, not even the National Guard. If the homeowner had left his house to look for the children there would only have been one more fatality.....but then thats the point, women need men to die in high numbers for them to feel good about their own meager lives.

CNN says that this was not a crime but does not discuss torts.
This guy could probably be sued for wrongful death. Read the similar facts in Ploof v. Putnam.

IM SORRY BUT THIS IS FRIGGIN BULL****, THIS IM TOO SCARED TO HELP A WOMAN IN CASE OF A BOGEYMAN STANDING BESIDE HER, WANTING TO BUST YOUR JAW

Any man, TRUEman, inherently wishes to save those weaker than him. I could not give a flying fvck how many boneheads coulda been standing around MY INNATE ANCESTRAL MASCULINITY WHICH HAS ALLOWED MY MALE DNA TO SURVIVE THUS FAR IN NATURE, WOULD IN THE EYE OF THE STORM, SERVE ME, AS IT HAS DONE FOR ALL OF THE PROUD MASCULINE WARRIOR ANCESTORS

I think a few of you "men" ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Two innocent children........ your fvckin nuts, and ought to be shamed for taking this line with two innocent lives
 

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You mad Bro?

and how do you know the children had been swept away when she was trying to get in the house, genius?

Were you there with them?

What does it have to do with NY being harsh? What kind of bullsh!t reasoning is this?
 

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Burroughs said:
loose any weight on the Zyzz plan yet Solomon? :crackup:

A lot of you have some serious white knight issues..."oh will someone please think of the children!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo
On many of your threads, Burroughs, you have a sensible and masculine perspective. Food for thought in alot of cases. What im chewin up from you here, I spit back in your face as reprehensible.

These are not the words of someone who I would describe as having taken the red pill......these are the words of someone who forgot to take their anti psychotic pill......

Seriously, are you that far detached from emotion that you dont feel profoundly moved that a **** weasel fag didnt have the balls to face fear and shelter a woman and children in a storm?

Shuks, you really are a great ambassador for your generation of American men...
 

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This sh!t just gets better, I see blogs and news article replies are now lit up with the usual "evil white man" bombardement. Nevermind the fact whitey's hi- tech satellite imagery gave this phucking imbecile 5 DAYS to evacuate her children to safety, or the fact he told authorities he thought it was a looter and there were no children even visually present. BLAME TIME YEAH!!! I'm starting to see why you were all over this one backbreaker under the guise of his "moralistic shortcomings".


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Seriously, are you that far detached from emotion that you dont feel profoundly moved that a **** weasel fag didnt have the balls to face fear and shelter a woman and children in a storm?
Irrelevant and semi strawman.

OP's gripe was with the Staten Island white knight police who went gunning for this guys head to appease SWPL's and minorities feeeeelings. Chest puffing "good guys" and damsels in distress has nothing to do with anything.
 

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MY INNATE ANCESTRAL MASCULINITY WHICH HAS ALLOWED MY MALE DNA TO SURVIVE THUS FAR IN NATURE blah blah blah
I thought you'd never bring that up. In your manly DNA, as coded by nature and evolution, you would only provide protection to women related to you by blood or women you're banging and thus carrying or caring for your children. You would never provide protection to women you're not related to, not currently banging and especially not women with children sired by a male stranger. Your natural manly masculinity would in fact urge you to spear them in the guts so your own children would have more foods to eat and less competition for resources, survival and mating when they grow up. Your nature as a man would've done a lot worse than what this man did and you are condemning him for. You (and our ancestors) did not survive and spread the genes this far by being kind & nice, I'm afraid.

The noble gesture (caring for unknown women and children) is born of civilization, not nature. And it is only heroic and chivalric if it is not a duty and not expected of men. If you're expected to sacrifice yourself for strangers, you're being treated as a slave.
 

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Chest puffing "good guys" and damsels in distress has nothing to do with anything.
And yet that is really all these white knight faggots have isn't it.

They seem to be willfully stuck on stupid...and they like it :crackup:

Underneath all the chest thumping of righteous indignation..its all about 'begging' women to love them....playing the role of the 'good' man....see I fixed the garage honey, I took you in after you gangbanged my office, I did the honey-do list, now I'm ready to take a bullet for you.

Fascist/socialist societies need men to be cannon fodder so that women can 'feel' safe.

But if that is the role you see for yourselves white knights....be be my guest :rock:
 

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Burroughs said:
CNN says that this was not a crime but does not discuss torts.
This guy could probably be sued for wrongful death. Read the similar facts in Ploof v. Putnam.
You don't mean . . . a strange woman is trying to get all of a man's possessions . . . without even giving him sex? Now that's a valuable pvssy!

Really you guys. Why knock Burroughs? He didn't refuse to help someone seeking refuge from a storm. He's just saying he can understand why some guy might not. Azzh0le, coward, whatever. Both the man and the woman sound like morons whose character flaws cost the lives of others in a crisis. Point is, as soon as the police determined that the man broke no law, they should have left him alone. They didn't.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. 95% of people are either idiots, or dummy down and act functionally stupid. Society shouldn't punish stupid ordinary people for being stupid ordinary people.
 

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Nobody (especially on this forum) really denies the existence of feminism and how it hurt the poor, lonely white male as such.

It's just funny to see that every single time a discussion about feminism comes up some dunderhead ends up calling his fellow DJ's "white knights" and "b!tches" and "fagg.ots" (See posts above) because some people like to think for themselves and disagree with overwhelming paranoia at times. This thread is a classic example. And I mind you, we are probably the only real friends these deluded poor souls have in society. If these so-called Men's movement advocates are going to trash the more neutral-minded among their own allies every time there's intellectual skepticism, who's going to take their valiant Men's Movement seriously?

Whatever happened to good old common sense? Some selfish fvck didn't help a woman in distress, and two kids died by drowning while they could have been sipping hot chocolate in a warm living room enjoying the storm, rather than drowning in it. And we are discussing how "the white American male is going down the sh!t hole" here starting from this story?

You guys need to relax. Go out with your wives. Have a glass of wine, settle down, don't be mad :)

Is Danger following this discussion? What's his take?
 

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zekko said:
I think the question is if this was a woman who wouldn't answer the door for a guy with some kids, would the police be seeking to prosecute her?
I think that's the real question and I'd say the police would not seek to prosecute her. So much for equality.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

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