Female Aging

[GoodMan32]

yeah, one of the biggest turn offs for a woman is to fetishized. Asian fever.. fat fetishist, etc...

may I suggest cooling the jets for a while? it might help with attraction.

I wouldn't call my preference for an older woman fetishization. Older is just what I like. Even in college, I liked 45+

As an example of fetishization, I went through a stretch in my early 20s when I only wanted Latinas (I myself am not Hispanic). In retrospect, that was a cringeworthy fetishization (Don't get me wrong; I continue to find a lot of Latinas attractive. But I don't fetishize anymore)

 

[SW15]

Once you hit your 60s they are most likely going to be the only women you can attract unless you are an outlier in terms of money, looks, status etc. I’m close to that age now (57) and consider myself very lucky to have a GF younger than 50. It helps that she prefers older guys.

You are correct about what happens to men 55+ in terms of attracting much younger models.

Late 30s/early 40s men even have issues getting women under 30. My preference right now at 41 is women 18-25 but most of them aren't going to be receptive to my approaches.

There are women who can remain attractive in their 30s and early 40s. Very few women are going to be appealing at 45+. A guy 60+ is only likely to have options with 50+ women. I can imagine a 60 year old simping over a 45-50 year old woman even though she's well past her prime and not that attractive. For a 60 year old man who can't even get a 30 year old woman, that 45-50 year old would be more appealing than a 55-60 year old.

 

[GoodMan32]

My preference right now at 41 is women 18-25 but most of them aren't going to be receptive to my approaches.

Then I'd appreciate it if you refrain from criticizing my age preferences (like a post on this thread yesterday, where you called my preference for 45-55 year old cooch problematic)

We both have a hard time getting our preferred age demographic, only for different reasons (your preferred 18-25 demographic thinks you're too old; my preferred 45+ demographic largely thinks I'm too young)

I suppose the one silver lining for me is the fact my preferred demographic will become more and more receptive to me as I age. On the other hand, your odds of getting with an 18-25 year old will unfortunately only get worse as time goes on.

 

[SW15]

We both have a hard time getting our preferred age demographic, only for different reasons (your preferred 18-25 demographic thinks you're too old; my preferred 45+ demographic largely thinks I'm too young)

While 18-25 would be my preferred demographic, it isn't where I am spending any meaningful time at this point. You are spending time pursuing 45-60 year olds.

OkCupid published data a long time about the age of women that men find most attractive. Men ages 20-50 thought women 20-24 were most attractive. My preference matches the data.



OkCupid also published data a long time ago that said that while men 35-50 preferred women in their early 20s, that wasn't who they tended to message the most. That also goes along with what I am doing in not focusing on 18-25 year olds right now.

On the other hand, your odds of getting with an 18-25 year old will unfortunately only get worse as time goes on.

This is a problem for most men. The 55 year old men simping over 45-50 year old women on Bumble would much rather have a 20-29 year old girlfriend.

One of the toughest parts of female aging is that there's a point for women where they lose their looks. The point varies for most women, but it is usually somewhere in their 40s at the latest.

I was recently at a private residence gathering/small party. There was a married woman there who was slender. I'm not sure how old she is, but my best guess is that she is 44-47. Fitness is a big part of her life. Her face did look aged and the skin on her neck was aged too. While she deserves credit for her slender physique, I found her unattractive based on her aging skin. She might be able to be considered attractive for her age but she looked overall unappealing to me AND she also had 2 kids who also weren't close to age 18. There's no way I would have considered her as a prospect even if she were single and in the market.

 

[GoodMan32]

While 18-25 would be my preferred demographic, it isn't where I am spending any meaningful time at this point. You are spending time pursuing 45-60 year olds.

OkCupid published data a long time about the age of women that men find most attractive. Men ages 20-50 thought women 20-24 were most attractive. My preference matches the data.

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OkCupid also published data a long time ago that said that while men 35-50 preferred women in their early 20s, that wasn't who they tended to message the most. That also goes along with what I am doing in not focusing on 18-25 year olds right now.



This is a problem for most men. The 55 year old men simping over 45-50 year old women on Bumble would much rather have a 20-29 year old girlfriend.

One of the toughest parts of female aging is that there's a point for women where they lose their looks. The point varies for most women, but it is usually somewhere in their 40s at the latest.

I was recently at a private residence gathering/small party. There was a married woman there who was slender. I'm not sure how old she is, but my best guess is that she is 44-47. Fitness is a big part of her life. Her face did look aged and the skin on her neck was aged too. While she deserves credit for her slender physique, I found her unattractive based on her aging skin. She might be able to be considered attractive for her age but she looked overall unappealing to me AND she also had 2 kids who also weren't close to age 18. There's no way I would have considered her as a prospect even if she were single and in the market.

At the 2 speed dating events I recently attended, most female attendees appeared to be 25-40. And the girl at my office building's cafe I called attractive (which I mentioned on a post last month) is most likely below 24 (and almost certainly below 30)

While I'd prefer 45+, I still have been shooting my shot with younger gals lately.

That being said, if I was at the party you mentioned, I probably would have shot my shot on the woman you described if she was single.

As for the general topic of a woman aging, I don't think it's overly devastating. She'll still get plenty of older men simping for her.

 

[SW15]

That being said, if I was at the party you mentioned, I probably would have shot my shot on the woman you described if she was single.

That private residence gathering was all married people. I was the only unmarried person there. From a pickup perspective, it was a waste of time. I was at that event to see one of my married male friends. Unlike a lot of friends mentioned in "Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere", this is a childless married man friend.

As for the general topic of a woman aging, I don't think it's overly devastating. She'll still get plenty of older men simping for her.

In 2014, Roosh wrote an article about The Wall being softer than most men think it is. It is still applicable in 2025, if not more applicable.

The Wall Is Softer Than We Think

Roosh was writing that more about the general dating prospects of 35+ women rather than 35+ women seeking younger men.

There's still plenty of demand for older women's pussies out there, especially from the tech based methods.

The simping I've observed for older women is unjustifiable.

 

[GoodMan32]

That private residence gathering was all married people. I was the only unmarried person there. From a pickup perspective, it was a waste of time. I was at that event to see one of my married male friends. Unlike a lot of friends mentioned in "Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere", this is a childless married man friend.



In 2014, Roosh wrote an article about The Wall being softer than most men think it is. It is still applicable in 2025, if not more applicable.

The Wall Is Softer Than We Think

Roosh was writing that more about the general dating prospects of 35+ women rather than 35+ women seeking younger men.

There's still plenty of demand for older women's pussies out there, especially from the tech based methods.

The simping I've observed for older women is unjustifiable.

Per your own admission on the post I quoted, older men would prefer a young woman, yet simp for 45+ gals because that's all he can get.

If that's all he can get, can you really blame him for simping over 45+ year old cooch?

 

[DJ Novice]

Some nationalities such as Asians hold their looks much later into their 40s and 50s compared to others. My Asian GF is 48 and looks 38.

If you are into older women you may want to take this into account.

I think the majority of men prefer much younger women but as you age this becomes increasingly difficult. You are faced with the choice of continuing to chase much younger women with no success or to chase women up to 10 years younger than you with more success. I chose the latter more pragmatic path.

You should avoid the simp route. It corrodes your masculinity and does not make you stand out from all the other guys. An overly alpha approach doesn’t work either as you can come across as just an arrogant pr*ck.

My approach is to connect with women on an emotional level (I primarily use OLD so text game is huge for me). Women love to talk about themselves and if you can stimulate their emotions, get them to open up to you and not be afraid to voice your own opinions (even if she disagrees with you) then you will have success.

 

[zekko]

I think the desire is possible, but it happens mostly in old-fashioned, traditional relationships i.e.
- you have met the female when she was young
- you have lived together a lot of years, during which you have dealt together with a lot of external issues or dangers and fought them off successfully
- in the end in your eyes she is not really that old person other ppl might see but your best friend that was there for you when you needed her the most
- I think I read it in some book, it went like that "if female captures man when her looks is still young and fresh, the man that loves a woman does not see her like other men do when years pass, if the relationship is successful he looks at her as if she was still that young female he fell for years ago, not the (old) woman she might be now"

I think there's truth in that, but here's also another scenario: You knew the girl when you both were younger, and knew her when she was smoking hot. You see her now when she's older, and yeah she's put on some age, but you still remember her as being smoking hot. I've experienced this myself, and maybe it doesn't work for you, but I've experienced it. Of course, a lot depends on how far she's let herself go.

 

[Ricky]

As long as a woman works to stay fit they can be appealing for many years.

the problem is with their personality and attitudes. Sometimes as in the case of my wife… well she got every bit as cantankerous and grumpy as her mother. Good luck with that.

but hey as long as you screen for personality also