Feels good to take control of these mental cases...

ThunderMaverick

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...Where as a year or so ago I would have blown up in this girl's face about trying to control what I do.

So get this; I've been friend's with this lady for a couple of months. Very nice girl, very giving. Pays for my dinner whenever I see her. (Met her in Vegas she was staying with other friends of mine who go to USC out here in Los Angeles. She had another friend who I fu<ked around with who went to Vegas with her too, but that's another story.)

I'm friends with her because...okay here's my policy; If I'm not attracted to you then we can be friends. She's not attractive to me at all. Actually I don't think she's attractive to most people. She weighs more than over 200 pounds and she says she's "a virgin by choice"....(Riiight. And I have a bridge to sell you honey.)

Moving on! I met another friend of hers who is a fellow actress working in a small theatre in West Hollywood (Los Angeles' little fag corner. lol) Very smoking. A good HB 8 (Eww I've never used the term "HB" before. May this be the last time I use it. XD ) She actually shows her tits in the play and man, let me tell you...Like two invisible angels holding them up and keeping them perfectly perky, gentlemen. You would be impressed.

So this is where it gets confusing so follow along:


*A fellow acting classmate reunited with me while I was working and wanted
me to try out for this play. I tell my fat unattractive friend that I'll be trying out for said play.

*She says to me "I ACTUALLY KNOW A GIRL WHO'S IN THAT PLAY! (Let's call the girl "Perky". So without my unattractive friend telling me I would have met "Perky" anyways.

*I go to the play and see Perky's perfect...perks. The director invites me to see a movie at his house with the rest of the cast.

*I see perky there, tell her I know Miss Unattractive and we talk a bit. Not much. It was very formal.

*Director keeps me after the movie and ask to suck my D!CK....Multiple times. Even ask again the next day. (Don't ask. That's an entirely different story. Ugh.)

*I ask Miss Unattractive for Perky's phone number and she's hesitant. I tell her what happened between me and the director and that Perky should know who she's working for.

*Call up Perky and tell her about the Director. She said she kinda had a feeling he would do something like that and that the director doesn't harass her so she's staying in the play. Says she would have liked to have worked with me, says I'm funny and that we should hang out.

*I tell Miss Unattractive about my talk with Perky and says she wants to hang out with me (We all know what for). Ask Miss Unattractive if she has a problem with it. (Don't want to cause riffs in friendships) She says no she doesn't. Green light for me.

Ok now fast forward to today. Holy Christ what a meeting with Miss Unattractive. I talk to Perky earlier and she wanted to do something friday and I told her I was working. She asked if I could stop by her job to see her the next day and I agreed. I told Miss Unattractive about it and asked her again if she had a problem with it. She was hesitant. Then said no. Then said "I just think you should be careful". I said Ok no prob.

"No, she talks about people"

"Okay that's fine I don't care"

"You should just be really careful"

"Okay I will"

"We haven't talked and she thinks I'm avoiding her"

"that has nothing to do with me"

"just be careful"

" -_- Okay"


It gets really quiet (we're in a resturant, btw) and all of a sudden she just cops the biggest attitude I've ever seen from her. "You're just not listening to me, are you?!" I told her of course I was and that I would be careful. She just kept trying to pound it into my head that I wasn't listening. I said "If by listening you want me to say "Okay I won't see her" I'm not going to do it. I'm going to see whoever I want. She starts repeating herself more and more, each attitude bigger than the next! I sit there and go "Okay...Okay" just un fazed. She goes "What?" I say calmly "Nothing". "BULLSH!T WHAT IS IT!?!?

"Nothin'." *shrugs*

"No no! What do you want to say?!"

"I'm going to pay for my food"

The b!tch THEN gets up and pays for my food. I tell her I didn't want her paying for me and she says something and storms off.

"You're just not listening and you're going to do whatever you want cause 'You're a MAN'" as she's walking ahead of me.

"That's right" I say as I'm strolling behind her. I then ask "I'm just going to take a shot in the dark but are you jealous?"

She stops in her tracks and starts crying! "My Psychic said Perky was going to try to make me jealous. I'm not attracted to you at all!! No offense! I just don't want to get into the middle of this"

"Uh.."

"I thought about hooking you up with her before because you guys would like each other...but I don't trust her"

"You act like I'm going to get into a relationship with her" I said.

"She'll probably try and SLEEP WITH YOU!!!!", she warns.

I didn't say a word. I just shrug and give her this "who DOESN'T want Pu$$y?!" look. It was actually quite something out of a comedy sketch. lol.

"I don't want to be in the middle of this!"

I tell her "whatever me and her do it'll be behind closed doors and frankly what we do is none of your business."

She gives me the "mother fu<ker just said that?!" look and says "Girls talk! I don't want to hear about it. I tell her that tell Perky you don't want to hear about it and that I don't plan on telling her anything that goes on between me and Perky. I tell her I'm not conspiring against her and as a friend she comes first. I tell her this over and over again and she starts to calm down. I walk her to her car and leave.

The nerve of her. If there's one thing I don't like is women who think they've marked me as their territory. She had no right to put me in a position like that even after telling her I had no intention of putting this friend of hers first. I'm going to bang Perky's brains out and she can't stand that fact.

Hmm.. I wonder why? Anyone know why?
 
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One question: If you kept telling Miss Unattractive what happened between you and Miss Perky was none of her business, then why did you keep bringing Miss Perky up to Miss Unattractive in the first place, other than your initial inquiry about her?? Its kinda like you were creating drama, then acting surprised at what spawned from it.

Miss Unattractive is not a mental case, at least not from what you mentioned above. When you said mental case I was expecting to hear about slit wrists, proclaimations of marriage and rage.

In any case, you shouldn't broadcast your thoughts about a girl your interested in to any girl no matter what.



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I've only brought up Perky twice. Once when I asked for her number and the second time at the resturant (they both said they haven't spoken to each other much lately) so I asked if both of them were getting along. Like I said I don't want to cause a rift between the two. I don't see how I would anyways if I kept my "whatever happens between closed doors is none of your business" policy.

I told fatty that I wasn't putting Perky first because that was MY CHOICE. I'm not going to stop seeing someone because someone else has a problem with it. As I said before me and Perky would have met up and hung out regardless if Miss Unattractive knew about it.

I actually asked Miss Unattractive that. "What would you have done if you didn't introduce me and we hooked up anyways? (Which would have happened)" She really didn't have an answer. She just repeated she didn't trust her and it's happened before and bla bla bla.


Edit: I'm talking about the extreme change in attitude is what makes her mental. The anger and the swearing and the crying. Her demeanor changed and the more I didn't agree with her the more agitated she got. It was like she was trying to force me in a way to say "Okay I won't see her". I saw no signs of this kind of behavior from her whatsoever the few months I've known her. She's always been sweet and understanding and very open minded. SHE has a personal problem with her friend and now she has a problem with me speaking to her friend. Like how she feels I should reflect it too. I won't do that.


Edit: Agh dammit. Now I KNOW she's going to ask about me and Perky every second she gets. I might just have to drop both of them to avoid drama. I don't know what went on between the two but Miss Unattractive is not my best friend and Perky hasn't wronged me so far. She doesn't want me seeing Perky because it's her problem not mine.
 

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Hm. Anyone have any suggestions about how I should approach this situation now after all of that drama? Should I bang perky? Should I drop her? Should I just drop them both?
 

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Just a couple questions Thunder

Does it make you feel better to call your " friend " names, and make derogitory remarks about her ?

it sounds as if you're just taking advantage of her ...why not let her go and she will have the chance to find a " good friend " as you don't seem to be

Your " friend " obviously wants you,

does it make you feel good to rub another chick in her face ?

If a chick did to me, what you do to her I would call you an attention *****
dude have some class

Just a thought

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Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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Discretion is the better part of valor, with chick and guy friends alike. Both can become jealous of you...
 

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I agree with the others.

I've only brought up Perky twice.
Twice too many times.

Once when I asked for her number
Man, didn't you have a convo with Perky? Ask HER for the number. Right there. I know it's not easy, especially with other people standing there, but do not go through friends. This is a bit of a Faux Pas, in the post-high school world.

(I have done this before, but I quickly found out that people thought it was creepy and wimpy.)

As for your friend, she's not so crazy. It's just the usual "she gave me a dirty look once" drama. You won't find a woman who doesn't have that problem.

Sure, I'd call Perky up, but I wouldn't be optimistic. Think about it: I'm sure her tits are the greatest thing since sliced bread, but what's HER interest in YOU? You haven't gotten her to show up on a date yet. Sure, she AGREED to, but that don't mean squat.

This is waaayy too early to be asking any friends if they're OK with anything. Don't jump the gun.
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
She stops in her tracks and starts crying! "My Psychic said Perky was going to try to make me jealous. I'm not attracted to you at all!! No offense! I just don't want to get into the middle of this"
Translation:

"I am a woman, and as such I enjoy (demand) attention! My psychic warned me that my friend who is prettier than I am is going to do something that will take attention away from me, and I've been ruminating over it for weeks. How DARE it be with YOU!"

Does Miss Unattractive want you for anything more than a friendship? It doesn't matter!

I have a female friend that I could probably fukk if I were so inclined. She might be sexually attracted to me at least a little, but we have never had sex. But you should see the sparks fly when I bring another chick around! She gives the girl the "Who the fukk are YOU" look, and she gives me a bit of a passive agressive attitude.

It's all part of the game when you mix men and women. For most guys it's like mixing ammonia with bleach. You get a toxic cloud that forces everyone to evacuate the building.

If you know you to handle it though, it ain't that bad. Good luck.
 

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I have a female friend that I could probably fukk if I were so inclined. She might be sexually attracted to me at least a little, but we have never had sex. But you should see the sparks fly when I bring another chick around! She gives the girl the "Who the fukk are YOU" look, and she gives me a bit of a passive agressive attitude.
OMG! Drama! It's enough to make me curl into a fetal position in the corner while it all blows over!
 

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]Does it make you feel better to call your " friend " names, and make derogitory remarks about her ?
When they try to tell me who I can and can't see, yes.

it sounds as if you're just taking advantage of her ...why not let her go and she will have the chance to find a " good friend " as you don't seem to be
If I was taking advantage of her I would have slept with her. She's very well to do and I could take a few weeks off work if I got with her.

Your " friend " obviously wants you,

does it make you feel good to rub another chick in her face ?
That wasn't my intention. What am I? A girl? I figured since the relationship was strictly platonic then she wouldn't have minded.

If a chick did to me, what you do to her I would call you an attention *****
And if I did to a guy friend of mine or a female of mine what Miss Unattractive did, then I would be considered a...you guessed it! An AFC!!

What would you call a friend if they tried to dictate who you see and what you do? Would you call that person a friend?

I'm only really pissed because of that. If I gave a friend an ultimatum saying "if you keep speaking to this person that I don't like then we can't be friends" I wouldn't be friends with that person. That's what turned me off. You just don't do that to people.

What would you do if a friend gave you an ultimatum like that?

dude have some class
Fine I'll take back what I said about her being a psycho. I was just surprised as to how controlling she became. The last thing I want is someone controlling me. The thing about it to is...we're not even that close.

It's one thing to be a little jealous, it's another thing to take action from that jealousy. It's only pushed her a way from me a little as a friend. I told her that I'm not going to have Perky replace her as a friend and it's purely physical. My friend was telling me this has probably happened to her before where her prettier friends got the guy friends that she wanted.

She said she wasn't attracted to me...so I'll just take her word for it. If she was attracted to me then I guess that would be different. Or would it?
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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I'm seeing Perky tonight so we'll see what happens. Anything we do will be between me and her...as it should be.
 
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Her psychic? HUH?? She is a psycho!!

To solve this issue and keep fatty happy, you'll have to sex her as well! :)
 

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So I should take one for the team, Dr. P? -_- I might have to.


I saw Perky today at her job. And yes I was right, she's down for a good fu<king. She wants to meet up again next week when she's free.
 

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I believe there are outstanding "issues" between you and Miss UNattractive, as your UGLY identifier for this so called "friend" points to deep seated angry emotions within you. Let me make it plain: friends don't call friends THAT.
 

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Women love to be adored if its from the right guy - as long as you have something offer her - don't always think of your pleasure because every interaction will come off as if you NEED something, bad bad...Your giving her what she wants, hence her attraction. It seems to me that your in need of "well-being". Women have a lot of that to offer us and we are attracted to that. The mature male on the other hand i believe, knows how to attain his own well-being. It comes from identity and finding all the things you like to do and going out and doing them, you'll feel genuinely more fulfilled. I really think this could help you with your problem. And after that, your lovey dubby situation will take care of itself, because it will come from a more "centered" part of you and it will FEEL right.
 

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persistent exaction said:
I believe there are outstanding "issues" between you and Miss UNattractive, as your UGLY identifier for this so called "friend" points to deep seated angry emotions within you. Let me make it plain: friends don't call friends THAT.
Duh.

Yeah that wasn't the case before she turned ugly from the inside out. Fact is is that I took a sexual interest in her friend and vice versa. Miss unattractive and I are just friends and she's angry that me and Perky are hooking up. She shouldn't be. I've stated before over and over again to her we are just friends.

To tell you the truth my alot of my other friends would make jokes about me and her. If I were out with her they would say "oh he's whale hunting again guys! hahaha". I would, even to my closer friends, DEFEND her honor and tell them not to talk about her like that. I had all the respect in the world for her because she seemed like a genuinely nice person. She never did anyone wrong. I LIKED hanging out with her.

After this whole fiasco I saw a 180 in her behavior. But no one is paying attention to that. Everyone is focused on my anger and you know what? I have a right to be angry.


If the roles we reversed everyone would be calling me an AFC.
 

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Jay Rod said:
Women love to be adored if its from the right guy - as long as you have something offer her - don't always think of your pleasure because every interaction will come off as if you NEED something, bad bad...Your giving her what she wants, hence her attraction. It seems to me that your in need of "well-being". Women have a lot of that to offer us and we are attracted to that. The mature male on the other hand i believe, knows how to attain his own well-being. It comes from identity and finding all the things you like to do and going out and doing them, you'll feel genuinely more fulfilled. I really think this could help you with your problem. And after that, your lovey dubby situation will take care of itself, because it will come from a more "centered" part of you and it will FEEL right.

Yeah I'm more happier doing what I want without doing it at the expense of others. I don't want to be pushed or persuaded or forced to do anything I don't want to do. Her trying to get me to NOT talk to Perky really grinds my gears.


Anyone here like being told what to do?

In this case I don't seeing me causing anything but jealousy in this situation...something SHE needs to get over.
 

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If you want to be angry about something you have no control over .....

hey man knock yourself out ! ! !

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