Feeling Disgusted with Women

[Wilko]

Interesting. Over the past two years I've been very calculated about how I've handled girls being late/disrespectful/flaking. I started off being absolutely militant with the two-strikes stuff, and boy did I get my licks in! Then I made a conscious effort to manifest a detached and unaffected attitude, and that got some results (for that matter, so did being a hardass).

Now I just react to situations, no planning, no calculating. No strategies to try and maximise my chances of getting in a girls pants. If a girl crosses a boundary and I want to give her a serve about it, I give her a serve. If I feel like letting it go, I let it go. Which is cool, because it's actually me calling the shots, instead of some aggregate of various seduction strategies making my decisions for me.

Lol, maybe there's a niche for an I-phone app: "The flake calculator", plug in the variables and it comes up with the highest percentage play for your situation.

 

[Solomon]

Where I usually have problems is that a majority of people can't leave their mobiles alone for more than five minutes. If I am with a girl and she can't leave her phone alone that really winds me up. Atom Smasher had a brilliant tip to deal with it, but usually I take that as a sign of a lack of interest on her part and I probably won't bother arranging a second date with the girl.

Girls are allowed to get away with disrespectful behaviour because we men have allowed it for too long, it's time that we started behaving like men and not taking sh*t from a woman just because she has a vagina.

Perseverance your post are spot on mate, you have great insight and hit the fuccing nail on the head time and time again.

The girl had her mobile pulled out within....wait for it, wait for it 4 minutes. To me this is a deal breaker, typically I have a great line for girls who are on their mobile all the time. But honestly I didn't bother with this one

 

[Drdeee]

Know their value, know yours, live your dream, look out for the one, the rest is history.

 

[perseverance]

Perseverance your post are spot on mate, you have great insight and hit the fuccing nail on the head time and time again.

The girl had her mobile pulled out within....wait for it, wait for it 4 minutes. To me this is a deal breaker, typically I have a great line for girls who are on their mobile all the time. But honestly I didn't bother with this one

Thanks very much Solomon, I try and help best I can.

So four minutes into your date she had her phone out? That's really rude and I really don't know how you managed to spend more than ten minutes with this low quality woman. Women who behave like her haven't been raised properly by their parents. It's bad parenting at the end of the day. This woman will get to her mid thirties, will probably be single, with no children and will become increasingly bitter towards men as her looks start to fade into the abyss. God help the poor man who ends up with her as a girlfriend and wife.

If there is one thing that this forum needs to teach people more about, it's about standing up for yourself and not accepting poor treatment at the hands of women. Too much emphasis is placed on improving your looks, your social standing and your monetary assets. Very little focus is placed on becoming a man of decency, a man integrity and a man that will not tolerate disrespect.

A majority of men wouldn't tolerate disrespect from another male, yet they allow women to treat them badly and never once stand up for themselves. You can have a large house, a luxury car, a yacht in the South of France and all the money you can wish for, but if you can't stand up for yourself and allow women to manipulate you and disrespect you then you'll get taken to the cleaners by these women.

Unfortunately a lot of men don't learn this lesson until later on in life, I am fortunate that I learnt this lesson aged 21, not 41.

 

[Solomon]

Thanks very much Solomon, I try and help best I can.

So four minutes into your date she had her phone out? That's really rude and I really don't know how you managed to spend more than ten minutes with this low quality woman. Women who behave like her haven't been raised properly by their parents. It's bad parenting at the end of the day. This woman will get to her mid thirties, will probably be single, with no children and will become increasingly bitter towards men as her looks start to fade into the abyss. God help the poor man who ends up with her as a girlfriend and wife.

If there is one thing that this forum needs to teach people more about, it's about standing up for yourself and not accepting poor treatment at the hands of women. Too much emphasis is placed on improving your looks, your social standing and your monetary assets. Very little focus is placed on becoming a man of decency, a man integrity and a man that will not tolerate disrespect.

A majority of men wouldn't tolerate disrespect from another male, yet they allow women to treat them badly and never once stand up for themselves. You can have a large house, a luxury car, a yacht in the South of France and all the money you can wish for, but if you can't stand up for yourself and allow women to manipulate you and disrespect you then you'll get taken to the cleaners by these women.

Unfortunately a lot of men don't learn this lesson until later on in life, I am fortunate that I learnt this lesson aged 21, not 41.

I wish u were right about the women being alone in the future, but word on the block is her friend (who is boning my buddy) has a beta provider, my buddy is the alpha boinking her and being taking out on dinners that the beta is unknowingly paying for! This is beocming the norm for women who are always looking for the BBD. They keep a multitude of men, so even if she doesn't have "that one guy" she still has options from various other men, to cater to her needs. I don't see this stopping anytime soon sadly

There are lot of men who don't value themselves, especially with a hot chick, due to the fact that they want the trim. Hence common sense goes out the window as well these entitlement issues that are so rampant here and threads about men being disrespected and not ejecting from relationships etc.

I myself will be leaving this site soon because I have to sort things out that are deeper then women (spiritual/mental/physical etc), this may be my last month posting here for awhile

 

[backbreaker]

I don't' know of very man men who will tolerate disrespect, true disrespect from a woman, it's just pvssy. I"m just trying to ask why are you really being disrespected. You may think i'm trying to bust balls but that's could not be further from the truth. I just look at things from different perspectives to try to get the best most realistic outcome that can actually benefit me or whoever it is i am talking to. NO doubt the woman has very low morals, that's not what i am saying. But even so, if she were into you, really into you, you wouldn't have had a clue about how low her morals were on the first date. she would have put her best foot forward so to speak. that's all i'm saying.

different people direspect people for different reasons.

 

[CJ 101]

I know the feeling dude, I felt the exact same way a couple of years ago and i still do.......

 

[Solomon]

I don't' know of very man men who will tolerate disrespect, true disrespect from a woman, it's just pvssy. I"m just trying to ask why are you really being disrespected. You may think i'm trying to bust balls but that's could not be further from the truth. I just look at things from different perspectives to try to get the best most realistic outcome that can actually benefit me or whoever it is i am talking to. NO doubt the woman has very low morals, that's not what i am saying. But even so, if she were into you, really into you, you wouldn't have had a clue about how low her morals were on the first date. she would have put her best foot forward so to speak. that's all i'm saying.

different people direspect people for different reasons.

Once again as soon as she saw me she started acting weird i.e. not asking me any questions, got on her phone calling another guy etc as I said once she went to pick up the "guy" I walked away,

No over-analysis needed

p.s. talking about gym if you have some gym tips on how to drop 35 pounds that would be more appericated then this banter back and forth

 

[Yo'Mama]

I don't' know of very man men who will tolerate disrespect, true disrespect from a woman, it's just pvssy. I"m just trying to ask why are you really being disrespected. You may think i'm trying to bust balls but that's could not be further from the truth. I just look at things from different perspectives to try to get the best most realistic outcome that can actually benefit me or whoever it is i am talking to. NO doubt the woman has very low morals, that's not what i am saying. But even so, if she were into you, really into you, you wouldn't have had a clue about how low her morals were on the first date. she would have put her best foot forward so to speak. that's all i'm saying.

different people direspect people for different reasons.

True but even the most heinous cvnt out there is capable of being nice, if they're sufficiently interested in the guy. George Clooney or Brad Pitt would obviously see a very different girl on the first date. But it wouldn't make her any less of a *****, it would just take them longer to find out about it. Surely it's better to find a woman who treats EVERYBODY decently (except for those who are patently undeserving of respect). Her actions are those of a cvnt, plain and simple.

One problem I have with this board is that the prevailing view is that you should mould yourself into whatever you need to be to get laid the most. The problem I have with that is that women really are not the best judge of character. I'd prefer to become the kind of guy that I want to be, not the sort of guy that women are attracted to. If that means I get laid less, so be it.

 

[Mike32ct]

True but even the most heinous cvnt out there is capable of being nice, if they're sufficiently interested in the guy. George Clooney or Brad Pitt would obviously see a very different girl on the first date. But it wouldn't make her any less of a *****, it would just take them longer to find out about it. Surely it's better to find a woman who treats EVERYBODY decently (except for those who are patently undeserving of respect). Her actions are those of a cvnt, plain and simple.

Absolutely agree.

One problem I have with this board is that the prevailing view is that you should mould yourself into whatever you need to be to get laid the most. The problem I have with that is that women really are not the best judge of character. I'd prefer to become the kind of guy that I want to be, not the sort of guy that women are attracted to. If that means I get laid less, so be it.

Very true. There needs to be limits to changing yourself so that you don't become something you don't want to be. For example, I have no interest in getting tattoos and a motorcycle. I'm sure I'd get laid more with it, but it just doesn't interest me.

But if it's a change that you genuniely want for yourself, I think it's ok.

Women are only good judges about what makes their ginas tingle. As for them being good judges of character, forget about it.

 

[Kupid Diggs]

I'm no stranger to being disrespected by women. These past few years I've been flaked on, ignored, dismissed, ect by a TON of women. And most of the time I've been bitter about it. And I've held the women accountable, and I too got disgusted with women.

These past few weeks I've just let go and stopped caring. I'm trying to learn to like women for what they are.

I just want to say that if you feel disgusted with women, why would you think that you would have success with them? Who wants to be around someone who hates them? Now I'm not saying you should tolerate disrespect, but you have to learn to like women for what they are. We shouldn't be taking women this serious.

 

[Borknagar]

I don't let women disrespect me anymore, and neither should anyone here. I ask this, HOW important are women in your lives? With the exception of family, which is always important. This might sound bad but money and career are much more important, being stable in life is more important. I am just happy no women has ever had the chance to destroy my life. Look at a lot of the men that do think they found someone special, and what happens? A couple kids, a divorce, child support, and financial crisis cause of the divorce/child support. I admit I go sarging and like getting laid, but I don't plan on doing it forever. Maybe another 10 years and 100 women later I'll settle down by myself, and be happy with the friends I've made along the way. I don't need a women to make me happy. I fully expect to be alone when I'm older. And I'm not saying that to be negative, I'm saying that cause women just aren't worth the hassles, they are a weekend entertainment for me, a piece of ass, and nothing more.

 

[f283000]

Now I'm not saying you should tolerate disrespect, but you have to learn to like women for what they are. We shouldn't be taking women this serious.

Back when I was a nice guy I used to hate on jerks/bad boys and how they viewed/treated women as pieces of meat. I always thought women were meant to be treated as queens. That was my mentality. The more experienced I got the less seriously I started taking women and the less respect I had for them.

Now don't misunderstand me in thinking that I somehow mistreat women or treat them like garbage because I say i don't take women seriously and have little respect for them. I treat everyone with respect.

Taking them less seriously: knowing the games they play, why they do it and not putting up a fight. When I say not putting up a fight I mean not engaging in their games.

------For example the 2 strikes rule: I once called a woman like 10 times in 1 night. She had me hook line and sinker begging just to talk to her on the phone. Took me a while to get to a level to implement a 2 strikes rule for myself.

------Me In The Present: The other day I met some chick in a kareoke bar, got her #, contacted her, got no response, deleted her #. I would not have had the balls and self respect to delete her # in the old days. I would have begged and tried everything and kept that number "hoping" something one day would happen.

All the above is what I mean by taking women less seriously. What I mean by having less respect for them is that I no longer see them as princesses, queens, feminine beauties that want and deserve to be protected. I'm sure there are some true feminine beauties out there left and believe me they are in high demand (and the ones I know are all snatched up by guys and married up) but they are rare and are usually found in eastern europe and asia

Of course my mentality didn't become this progressive without going through traps and getting some experience under my belt. Unfortunately this is what every guy has to go through. Most will see the light, others will struggle with women and fall for their games and traps, while others will get married to a woman that hasn't proven herself to be a fit wife and join the ranks of un-happy married people soon to be divorced 7 years later..

 

[Solomon]

True but even the most heinous cvnt out there is capable of being nice, if they're sufficiently interested in the guy. George Clooney or Brad Pitt would obviously see a very different girl on the first date. But it wouldn't make her any less of a *****, it would just take them longer to find out about it. Surely it's better to find a woman who treats EVERYBODY decently (except for those who are patently undeserving of respect). Her actions are those of a cvnt, plain and simple.

One problem I have with this board is that the prevailing view is that you should mould yourself into whatever you need to be to get laid the most. The problem I have with that is that women really are not the best judge of character. I'd prefer to become the kind of guy that I want to be, not the sort of guy that women are attracted to. If that means I get laid less, so be it.

+1 and Repped, Yo Mama is spot on, his insight is refreshing. Even if the chick wasn't attracted to me or whatever, she still could have been polite. The fact that Backbreaker finds it acceptable for the women to leave in the middle of a date is distributing but shows the trend that men now a days will put up with a lot of bullshyt from women. Yet I'm the one who did something wrong.

I'm not saying I'm perfect I'm working on my shyt, but a lot of women treat people who they don't value like shyt this tells a lot about their character

I'm no stranger to being disrespected by women. These past few years I've been flaked on, ignored, dismissed, ect by a TON of women. And most of the time I've been bitter about it. And I've held the women accountable, and I too got disgusted with women.

These past few weeks I've just let go and stopped caring. I'm trying to learn to like women for what they are.

I just want to say that if you feel disgusted with women, why would you think that you would have success with them? Who wants to be around someone who hates them? Now I'm not saying you should tolerate disrespect, but you have to learn to like women for what they are. We shouldn't be taking women this serious.

Good point, but you said it yourself after awhile you get bitter about your bad experiences. I said before in this thread and I'll say it again. Right now women aren't a big deal to me, I really don't care if I get laid or not, no I'm turning gay. Its just not that big of a priotiy. I've fucced more girls then I care to mention etc. My health and getting my money right is waaaaaay more important. I know their quality women out there but their not at bars/clubs etc. I rather focus on doing me first if I meet a chick along my journey she can hop on if I don't its cool imma do me

I don't need a women to make me happy. I fully expect to be alone when I'm older. And I'm not saying that to be negative, I'm saying that cause women just aren't worth the hassles, they are a weekend entertainment for me, a piece of ass, and nothing more.

Took me a long time to realize this brah, this is why when your out on the field I'm at home these days watching "Dexter" I just dont have the drive anymore to talk to these slores. It's like that time we went to uptown and that black chick was giving me attitude for asking her to use her ketchup, shyt is just ridiculous. I rather go to the gym and bust my ass feeling good then go on a date with a slore who is disrespectful

Update: Saw the slore yesterday at work, we made brief eye contact her face got red and she quickly duck down to her desk pretending to work. Will post the FR on Monday on my blog with more details

also this weekend I'm hanging out with two foreign chicks a black girl from Germany and a chick from Rwanda @ the same time will see how it goes


peace

 

[bigneil]

Most women, especially hot ones, will at one time or another act disrespectful toward you, whether intentionally or not. As Yo
Mama said even the worst women can behave themselves for a limited time depending on how high their interest level is, so it can take weeks to see the real them. The key is to punish them for their bad behavior versus ejecting because of it. They often like being put in their place, and it shows strength to call them on it.

 

[5string]

Most women, especially hot ones, will at one time or another act disrespectful toward you, whether intentionally or not. As Yo
Mama said even the worst women can behave themselves for a limited time depending on how high their interest level is, so it can take weeks to see the real them. The key is to punish them for their bad behavior versus ejecting because of it. They often like being put in their place, and it shows strength to call them on it.

Very well said.