Feel like women have complete control over my mood/life.

rhcp83

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As far as the pursuit of sex with a woman my type.

Doesn't matter if I masturbate more/less...am doing something completely non women related with my time...I'm obsessing over it.

I'm 28, not ugly, I shouldn't be a virgin even with my pickiness. Women are just people that sh1t and put their pants on one leg at a time and have bad breath if they don't brush their teeth (or some even if they do)...they are not angels or goddesses. Yet you'd think talking to them (because of the treatment they've got) that it's like talking to God Himself. Even a 5/6 has numerous options and has her choice of most guys that she wants.

The sexual frustration has made me angry/bitter/a bad person to be around.

If I were having near misses/meeting women my type in person more often/etc., at least I'd have something to hang my hat on.

I really don't want to get into the location issue...but I really don't live in a sargable area. Most women are UG to begin with, 5s get the 10 treatment, and people pretty much keep to themselves and their own cliques/people they work with/friends/family etc. .

(Yes I plan on moving, not just for women, hate the area in general...very boring/dark/nothing to do/people are uptight...and it could happen as soon as late summer/fall, but that doesn't help me at the moment.)

I dream every night of naked women/sex and the like regardless of how much I do or don't masturbate. I spend a lot of time, even when I'm at work, on pof (since there aren't any local places to sarge) and just get myself worked up when I only get views/messages from warpigs.

I just feel like I'm about to break. A woman can be a 3 on the 10 scale, not work out (I work out), and bang a male 10...and I'm just trying to find any cute girl that is my type. I'm not looking for Megan Fox or Monica Bellucci or whoever. Sure I don't like UGs/fatties, but I'm not an UG or fattie myself.
 

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Take this spoon and put it in your mouth. Swallow!

Stop putting women on a pedestal. You need to learn that you are the prize. Take a look around. In our society almost every single thing a woman does is in an effort to get your attention.

How are your readings going rHCp? Are you learning and applying? Still waiting for some actual field reports detailing your encounters with the women you meet.

Let us help you....
 

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Slickster, I know it sounds like excuse making, but this isn't a sargable area.

I will admit to a sticking point in my game...when I do get opportunities (up until very recently) I have been "a perfect gentleman" and not made the date sexual...but the past two dates I've had, I went for the kiss, and got it the last time.

May or may not have mentioned, met her at a bar, yes, but knew who she was from hs. She even told me that guys approach her there all the time and she tells them screw off since she doesn't know them. That she found me attractive but also knew who I was. (She turned out to be psycho btw...nothing I did...if anything I dodged a bullet. On the date, she mentioned being raped and taking self-defense classes...and I overlooked that...then she later flipped out on me out of the blue when texting her.)

I don't expect you to understand small town dynamics. You don't even have to care. Trust me, if there were places to talk to random women, even just for talking, not even necessarily to get laid, I'd be there right now and not on the computer.

I don't have women on a pedestal. Like I said, if anything they are even more f***ed up than men. I have women sexually on a pedestal. At this point, I'd trade anything but my family for a night with a girl my type.

I realize that this venting is getting me nowhere, but what are the other options? There literally are no women to sarge. People meet each other through their tight social circles/at work/etc.

I dated an 8 (also went to hs with her) who said that she's never once been approached by a random guy locally anyway, and if she were, she'd politely tell him to leave.

I'm all for learning and self-improvement (like I said I have flaws in my seduction game when I do get opportunities and am talking to people online that do get laid to correct those) but you can't fish in an empty pond.

I'm doing something about it (moving) but that won't be at minimum until July/August-ish. I'd like to get laid before then.
 

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You need to get your assets up first. Then you need to take it to the road. You don't have to move but you might have to make a drive. Sounds to me like your stuck in the country living paycheck to paycheck. Of course if your in a city with all ugly girls the cute girls will think they are Beyonce.

I live in a small city and I'll tell you I've probably hooked up with only like 3 fine girls since I been here. The rest have been average girls. Firstly, there isn't many fine girls in this city. If there is boys will treat her like she is the queen of the world. Secondly, 95% of the time they already have a boyfriend. So just about every weekend I travel to Atlanta or another city and you can tell the fine girls are way more receptive because 100 people do not put her on a pedestal.

To me I call this the modified law of supply. Good looking girls and receptiveness are directly related. The more fine girls there are the more receptive they are.

So my advice to you is to get your finances up and just make that drive. Eventually you will have enough money to go somewhere else.
 

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AJ, exactly. The more attractive women there are around, the nicer they are. It's all supply and demand.

I plan on moving and have the money to do so (it's family stuff that's holding me up) but want to meet women in the meantime.

I'm also planning a vacation (have enough for a weekend getaway somewhere) but that will likely be in June.

I'd like to get laid before then.

The few attractive women there are here act like they're the hottest woman in the world. I've told other people this story. A month ago, this woman, not even that hot but apparently thought she was since she was all dolled up, probably in her 20s, maybe early 30s, was walking into the building I was leaving, so I left the door open for her (as I would for anyone)...she has that fast, angry closed walk with her head down and doesn't even say thank you.

That about sums up the few attractive women there are here.

It was actually an eye opener for me when I went to Orlando and Virginia Beach a couple summers ago and legit 9s/10s were talking to me like they'd known me my entire life.

Like someone else said, I think it was BackBreaker, he didn't know his worth as a man until he went to California. The past few years since I've started, I've dated two cute/quality women and been on several dates (all through fb/pof/okcupid or knowing the girl beforehand) and I can't help but think I'd have much more success if I was in a friendlier, more women populated environment.

I'm just trying to find a way to demystify sex with some 6 in the meantime just to get the ball rolling.
 
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It's a good idea to change your location then, especially of you've had luck with 9-10s elsewhere. But livin in California I can tell you that while it's a friendly environment with more cute girls, there are still tons of frustrated guys. Work on your inner game, if it's not strong you won't succeed even in a better place. California is nice for alpha males, nt so much for the little guy. But that's just human nature. Being a virgin hurts, why not take any measures necessary to lose it in the next 2 months? Cute girls have an EVOLVED detection of virginity in men. They can smell your lack of preselection from a mile away. Get yourself out of the negative feedback loop an get laid by any rational means necessary.

The last sentence is open to your interpretation. I wouldn't be against paying for it. I had issues getting laid as a 18 year old. ****ed an uglier girl and now I'm with Cuties. Get over that hump.
 

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I'm really afraid of getting attached to some woman that isn't my type just because sex is good. Has happened to so many guys I know, even non virgins.

I may have told this story before, but a few years ago, I was having dinner with an old friend...hadn't seen him in over a year or two. So the first thing he says is "when you get a gf, put it in the butt." His gf is some skanky bone thin woman with a 10 year old from a previous relationship and last time I checked, they were living together in a home that he was paying for with the kid. Prior to that, she broke up with him and he came crawling back because "I missed the sex."

Another guy...had a ONS with this warpig on pof...she kicked him out after the sex was over...he comes crawling back, 2 years later, he's still living with her. It's not even like she's nice. She's cheated on him, she's psychotic and writes him crazy letters. He doesn't even like her, but stays because "it's easy sex."

I'll openly admit I'm afraid of that and why I haven't settled even with an average looking woman. (Not like I've had any opportunities...but if I tried hard enough on pof/okcupid, I could find some 5 to meet, say the right things to and get the v card over with.) If I knew that that's all it would be, a one night hook up to get it over with, I'd do a 5. Just want nothing to do dating/relationship wise with a woman that I wouldn't like otherwise.
 

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rhcp83 said:
I don't expect you to understand small town dynamics.
You are wrong about that. I'm from a small town and have had just as much experience there as in the big city. I actually prefer small town sarging because it is a work in progress. If you go out expecting instant results all the time then you become exposed as a player. People talk in a small town. What I do is "plant seeds". Talk to this girl here, that girl there. Eventually you get to know girls all over town and attraction slowly builds.

My wife is always shocked at how many young girls I know around our area. They smile and come talk to me as if we are old friends. It's all a result of years of meeting and chatting with random girls I meet. I works like compound interest.

I have friends who tell me all the time that they can't meet women where we live. I meet them everyday and everywhere.

Once again, change your attitude!
 
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