Fav PUAs method and why

[brolly]

first post, like most I am assuming you came after reading the rational male, I am studying PUA and looking and studying/researching topics I think will help in regards to pick up like NLP and reading body language among a few others.
I have bought The Mystery Method first and second book currently trying to study and perfect his method what's everyone's else's favourite method for pick up and why? I am interested in studying and researching anything I think will help, I understand a popular youtuber Todd v dating has a programme est charge around $400 usd I have not purchased that but just using it as an example.

what I mean exactly is like the mystery method it has a few books and an exact way of executing things as opposed to some guy that has a bunch of videos talking about different topics but nothing laid out from start to finish/

Regards.

 

[GrowingPains]

I have this CRAZY pick up line. It's so simple you will never see it coming. But it always gets a response. You should try it out.

I used to be into PUArtistry. But I've transcended it. This is better than any technique, any other pickup line you could pay anyone for. So simple. So effective. I'm almost worried that if I share it here too many guys will use it and I will have to change my method.. but I'm confident it will work forever. For me and for you. It's stupid the test of time.

"Hi, what's your name?"

 

[brolly]

I have this CRAZY pick up line. It's so simple you will never see it coming. But it always gets a response. You should try it out.

I used to be into PUArtistry. But I've transcended it. This is better than any technique, any other pickup line you could pay anyone for. So simple. So effective. I'm almost worried that if I share it here too many guys will use it and I will have to change my method.. but I'm confident it will work forever. For me and for you. It's stupid the test of time.

"Hi, what's your name?"

 

[brolly]

that's cool you have transcended it but I have not yet, I am sure you have banged so many 9s/10s that not only you are sick of them you are now forced to bang 4s/5s just for something different. I am posting this to learn and get the most out of this forum and maybe some others might learn as well so can we keep it to the topic at hand.

thanks in advamce

 

[zekko]

that's cool you have transcended it but I have not yet, I am sure you have banged so many 9s/10s that not only you are sick of them you are now forced to bang 4s/5s just for something different.

I don't think @GrowingPains was being a smart@ss, he was giving you a serious answer. I think he's saying it's better to engage in normal conversation than to become some scripted weirdo douche who uses memorized lines and routines.

Usually here people recommend the DJ Bible. It's free, and the information is as good as anything you would pay for. Despite what advertisers say, there is no "secret" method that will get you results if you just pay for it.

 

[MillionBillionaire]

I have this CRAZY pick up line. It's so simple you will never see it coming. But it always gets a response. You should try it out.

I used to be into PUArtistry. But I've transcended it. This is better than any technique, any other pickup line you could pay anyone for. So simple. So effective. I'm almost worried that if I share it here too many guys will use it and I will have to change my method.. but I'm confident it will work forever. For me and for you. It's stupid the test of time.

"Hi, what's your name?"

Nah bro you got it ALLLL WRONG!

My line is a billion times better.

I say... "Hi, I'm Millionbillionaire"

You should try it, it works!

 

[kzar_kzar]

that's cool you have transcended it but I have not yet, I am sure you have banged so many 9s/10s that not only you are sick of them you are now forced to bang 4s/5s just for something different. I am posting this to learn and get the most out of this forum and maybe some others might learn as well so can we keep it to the topic at hand.

thanks in advamce

GrowingPains is right, just use anything along those lines will be perfectly fine and then carry on the conversation. Carrying conversation is the hard part, I still failed alot. Don't use pick up lines unless you really find something odd/ unique about her, like literally something which is different, for example, I was in line to buy some tea (it's a thing in China), saw two Chinese looking girls ordering by pointing to screen, instinctively I told them, heyy you cannot speak Chinese? Why pointing?!
Turns out they were Thai tourists and this spot was famous for their tea.. boom I got 2 ladies plus a guys number on the spot. Got them free beers later on, but didn't escalated anything at all as I was working during her days.. she did call to catch with them on their last day but I declined.

 

[brolly]

I don't think @GrowingPains was being a smart@ss, he was giving you a serious answer. I think he's saying it's better to engage in normal conversation than to become some scripted weirdo douche who uses memorized lines and routines.

Usually here people recommend the DJ Bible. It's free, and the information is as good as anything you would pay for. Despite what advertisers say, there is no "secret" method that will get you results if you just pay for it.

I googled it and interested in reading it however I have founds links that do not have a direct download link if possible can you please link it below.

I am not "rich" but I run my own business and I am quite happy to pay for a programme if its complete and is effective I am not recommending that for people that are not as well of financially, nor do I want this turning in to a discussion about how you can learn some stuff at no cost, I have found the book by mystery more effective than any free crap on pick up I have seen on youtube over the years and wasted my time watching I could have put in my business and bought hundreds of copies of his book.

I am interested in studying pick up in every element of it and not only do I enjoy the research but the results speak for them selves.

I do not intent this being a thread of spergs saying that all they have to offer is a few canned lines and pick up lines at that is simply not true.

so thanks for the dj bible and please respect my thread in that's its for the discussion of effective puas and the the pros/cons of their methods.

I am sure de railing my thread might be fun for trolls but there is clearly intention for a genuine thread here
thanks in advance.

 

[ubercat]

Bobby RIOs stuff on guiding conversation and story telling was good I like leil lowndes for little social tricks.

Practical Female psychology for the practical man I've been recommending for ages. Marmel75 liked it and he s a hard man with a lot of Ks on the clock.

European guys have been pulling for decades with modified mystery method..Google it

Might suggest spending three days socialising for every day reading. It's not what you know its what you can do.

and the secret sauce is plating always have at least two girls it automatically fixes so many things

My girlfriend is paying herself to come visit me next weekend interstate after I moved away for work. Together for nearly 4 years now. She ssent me photos of the little outfit she LL be wearing for me and what she wants to cook for me. Maybe that happens by accident maybe not

This is what your aiming for

 

[brolly]

Ok I have added practical female physiology to my books an audible and will listen to it next week it looks to have high reviews on audible.
This and the jd bible is the sort of content I want here, while I appreciate some guys on here might suffice with the basic walk up and say and a few basic social ques but I am interested in studying and getting things down to an exact science and if that means studying from multiple sources so be it that’s what I want.

 

[brolly]

My only “game” is women who don’t value me don’t exist. This frame has served me well since puberty. Since before I ever had my first job and made any money. While guys were trying to improve their smv value, I was already banging chicks left and right with this mentality.

“Women that don’t value me don’t exist” is the inner compass that will solve all of your female issues.

Three things will happen when you carry around this frame:

1) no woman exists - low value guy.

2) some wome exist - average guy

3) a lot of women exist - high value guy.

Game is as simple as that. With this frame, your behavior will just auto-correct itself with no conscious effort on your part.

There I just saved you 10 years of having to learn game. Now go and try to become successful in life and cultivate some value for yourself so that you’ll end up as guy # 3.

Beyond the frame I just gave you, everything else in the Pua community is completely useless.

This is the exact thing I have zero interest in reading on this thread I get this may be troll bait talking about actually doing research and putting in effort perfecting an art... and yes I am sure just like every other guy on the internet you have banged so many girls and they were all super hot....
The reality is that might be good to say to ur self but it’s not going to give you or anyone constantl results with hot women.

If possible can we keep this thread to actual methods from proven pua’s that are accessible from start to finish.

I am so far dissatisfied as to the level of guys that post here it seems to be just something like walk up and say hi or something like the above posted. I could almost guarantee I would be better than the people who have posted above if that is your game.

 

[GrowingPains]

This is the exact thing I have zero interest in reading on this thread I get this may be troll bait talking about actually doing research and putting in effort perfecting an art... and yes I am sure just like every other guy on the internet you have banged so many girls and they were all super hot....
The reality is that might be good to say to ur self but it’s not going to give you or anyone constantl results with hot women.

If possible can we keep this thread to actual methods from proven pua’s that are accessible from start to finish.

I am so far dissatisfied as to the level of guys that post here it seems to be just something like walk up and say hi or something like the above posted. I could almost guarantee I would be better than the people who have posted above if that is your game.

I think you're on the wrong site then buddy.

And if you heard about this site from The Rational Male, you should know this. As he paints Mystery as a blabbering fool and basically says PUA is unsustainable.

My 'game' is not just saying hi. But I am saying I don't concern myself with the specifics of every word that I say and run routines or neg or any of that. I just talk. I try to learn about her and see how she responds to me. If there is silence, I try to be comfortable with it and see how she responds (this is usually on a date). I break the touch barrier. I am confident and then I tell her to give me her number so we can do xyz.

The point is that it isn't as complicated as Pua's make it seem. If the girl is interested in you, then it will happen. You don't need to try so hard. If she isn't... Next.

I think a lot of people need to get comfortable with the idea that rejection is naturally more common than compliance and stop being so afraid of it (by researching PUA tactics for example). Think about it, how many people have you met in life? Now how many of them are your friends? And THEN, how many of them are your best friends? This simple thought exercise should tell you that it is not likely that everyone will like you or that you will like everyone. Just keep putting yourself out there until it clicks. But I am not saying to not improve yourself. I think you should be mentally and physically strong and strive for being social.

But those things are things you can figure out without tactics.

You're intent on learning PUA methods. But this site, at least historically anyways, is about becoming a DJ. A DJ is not a PUA. Perhaps you'd find more fruitful discussion on a PUA forum if you insist.

 

[ubercat]

OP depends what you were after. And maybe try and remember their r stages in life. I m in the middle ground which is why I don't get too many reps here. Whole just be yourself crowd ignore the process. Like abstract art that guy had to spend the years doing still life drawings and conventional painting before he could put those lines and dots on a canvas.

I don't think you can look at it like a science. Setting yourself up for failure. All you can do shift the odds in your favour and keep doing the walk ups it's a numbers game.

Quiet confidence is very powerful with women. I wouldn't waste energy trying judge the level of guys you don't know. Your crystal balls r no better than mine.

The material recommended would take 1 to 2 years to learn and apply. If I was you I wouldn't bother asking for any more I d get on with the work. Skim a couple of chapters find something that resonates with you and get out there and try it.

Absorb what is useful add that which is specifically your own

 

[thinker]

@brolly you are starting out on the wrong foot. You are looking for a trick or a technique that is guaranteed to win and that simply doesn't exist. I got laid before the whole pua thing even existed. I remember reading the book the game and thinking to myself that if I had to remember to do all of that crap I would have died a virgin. The funny thing is that I noticed that I did the things described in that book naturally without even thinking about it, was that because I studied under some pick up guru , no it was because I was confident and my natural social , confident, masculine , and dominant self came out. I didn't know what I was doing I was simply unconsciously competent. I remember dating girls that were smoke shows and asking myself " what the hell does this chick see in me" that is how clueless I was. If you want to go the performing monkey rout go right ahead, but that usually leads to failure and disappointment. You are getting some good advice here from other members, you need to take that advice. The whole pua thing should be at best more of an ad on than your main foundation.

 

[brolly]

I understand what people are saying here......
I am aware people do not like pua or game etc.
the sole point of this thread was to discuss with people that appreciate puas and there varying methods how to approach pick up , who they used and how they compare not an attack on pua or their 3 step procedure, I am struggling to tell if its trolls or ignorance?
if know one believes in this on this forum I am happy to post somewhere else as to not cause a stir

 

[RangerMIke]

Okay... I never learned this from a PUA, and it's really the only 'line' I've ever used, usually I just walk up to a woman, compliment her on whatever she was doing that got my attention and introduced myself.. then go from there.

First before you do this, you have to get your mannerism down and be able to deliver this in a slightly sarcastic and humorous way like she should be impressed. Also it helps if you are dressed well and look like the opposite of what you are about to say.

"Hi I'm Mike. I drive a beat up VW Jetta, unemployed, and live in my mom's basement, and you are?" If she laughs... then you keep the joke going tell her the place is filled with men with nice cars, job's, and have their own place... but you are unique and that she would have to work really hard to impress you. I used to use this all the time in the late 80s early 90s. It worked pretty well. The fun ones will play along... the one's with no humor aren't worth your time anyway.

 

[zekko]

I am not "rich" but I run my own business and I am quite happy to pay for a programme if its complete and is effective I am not recommending that for people that are not as well of financially, nor do I want this turning in to a discussion about how you can learn some stuff at no cost,.

The point isn't whether or not you can afford to buy some PUA guru's method. The point is that the real, relevant material from those methods you can get for free elsewhere (like here).

Having said that, when I first started studying seduction theory, I looked at everything I could lay my hands on. This had an effect of making me a little jaded on PUA material, because I noticed most of it was basically all the same. You could get the same effect by learning a few basic principles which are solid. A lot of it also appears to be a scam in the way it is advertised, because much of it seems to promise some sort of "secret" which doesn't really exist, or at the very least is overstated. And besides, as I said, you can get all the good stuff for free elsewhere.

Most of the guys who have responded have gone through PUA and out the other side, so I wouldn't just dismiss what they say. Pook, who is known as an early leader in the community, said something to the effect that once you reached a certain level, PUA material no longer makes sense to you. The important thing is to achieve the proper mindset. PUA tactics are often said to be "training wheels" that help you establish the proper mindset, and then once you have that you don't need the tactics anymore.

I'm surprised to hear you praise Mystery Method so much, usually it is considered outdated by today's standards. I have no doubt there is some good information in there though.

Here's a link to the DJ Bible. This is what newcomers are usually pointed to here, sort of "SoSuave method", you might say. People also recommend The Rational Male a lot, which was written by a former (?) moderator on this forum. I wouldn't consider it a PUA book , but some might.

https://www.sosuave.com/bible/bible.htm

https://therationalmale.com/

 

[Poonani Maker]

Getting her name is very important, cause whether she's calling you by your God-given name or you're calling her by hers, it's a turn on and it just grows in affinity, so say you see each other again somewhere else or same place, you say her name which she will like to hear. It's respecting the person as well as acknowledging the person. I can't TELL YOU HOW MANY people in my daily life at work or wherever DO NOT remember or Care to even Know my name and certainly don't SAY my name I'm talkin going on 6 to 7 years now. It's utterly fvckin sad and pretty pathetic and really weird as well, that you can go on so long and not say another person's name even though you see them day in and day out. It's not a count-on-my-hand kinda thing but a voluminous amount of people who don't even Care to know your name. A 100+ millionaire I know almost Always says my name and I say his too, pretty much starting from week one 6 to 7 years ago. But these lower, struggling people never do, but there are some really low of the low people who Do say my name every time they see me and they are happy just like the 100 millionaire. It's a stark contrast, the fulfilled/unfulfilled in your midst. Those so wrapped up in their thoughts that they cannot even muster the energy to ask your name or use your name or remember your name for years on end. It's sad.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

 

[biggoal]

I googled it and interested in reading it however I have founds links that do not have a direct download link if possible can you please link it below.

I am not "rich" but I run my own business and I am quite happy to pay for a programme if its complete and is effective I am not recommending that for people that are not as well of financially, nor do I want this turning in to a discussion about how you can learn some stuff at no cost, I have found the book by mystery more effective than any free crap on pick up I have seen on youtube over the years and wasted my time watching I could have put in my business and bought hundreds of copies of his book.

I am interested in studying pick up in every element of it and not only do I enjoy the research but the results speak for them selves.

I do not intent this being a thread of spergs saying that all they have to offer is a few canned lines and pick up lines at that is simply not true.

so thanks for the dj bible and please respect my thread in that's its for the discussion of effective puas and the the pros/cons of their methods.

I am sure de railing my thread might be fun for trolls but there is clearly intention for a genuine thread here
thanks in advance.

$400? Financially that isn't a problem at all for me, BUT what am I going to use it on? Old 70 year olds around here lol?

$400 no way though.