Fat Liberation Movement

[DJDamage]

It seems that latley there has been a surge in fat people who are part of a group calling themselves "fat liberation". They are using the media claiming that they are victims and that we (society) are "brainwashed" into thinking that being thin is attractive.

Now they are going to bombard us using celebrities to brainwash us to accept fat women and to think that they are attractive!!!

((((Warning: Nudity OF FAT CHICKS Pictures on the followng link!! it seems that when its just a picture of hot women its called porn but when you put a has-been celebrity (Lenord Nimoy) taking pictures of FAT NAKED WOMEN and talking about them, all of the sudden its called ART!).

http://www.rmichelson.com/Artist_Pages/Nimoy/pages/MaxBeaut.
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If you don't want to open the link here is what is written in the article which is pure brainwashing propaganda at its best. Its going to come down to guys feeling bad that they aren't attracted to fat women because they are "ignorant" and this "fat liberation movement" will succeed. Now its going to be wrong telling them to lose the weight and to stop being lazy because if you can't accept them and love them the way they are, you are a caveman who has not got on with the times. (I believe that is the argument feminism uses to throw in your face every time you try to disagree with them.)

“Maximum Beauty” L. Nimoy

Who are these women? Why are they in these pictures? What are their lives about? How do they feel about themselves? These are some of the questions I wanted to raise through the images in this collection.

This current body of work is a departure for me. For a number of years, I have been producing images using the female figure. I have worked with numerous mo dels who were professional people earning their living by posing, acting, dancing, or any combination thereof. But, as has been pointed out to me in discussions at exhibitions of my work, the people in these pictures always fell under the umbrella of a certain body type. I’ll call it a "classic" look. Always within range of the current social consensus of what is "beautiful." In fact, that was the adjective I most often heard when my work was exhibited. The women as they appeared in my images were allotted no individual identity. They were hired and directed to help me express an idea—sometimes about sexuality, sometimes about spirituality—and usually about feminine po wer. But the pictures were not about them. They were illustrating a theme, a story I hoped to convey.

These women are interested in "fat liberation." They hold jobs in the theater, the film industry and in business—and together they perform in a burlesque presentation called "Fat Bottom Revue." The nature and degree of costuming and nudity in their performances is determined by the venue and the audience, which can range from children’s birthday parties, to stag parties. I wanted these pictures to be more about them. These women are projecting an image that is their own. And one that also stems fro m their own story rather than mine. Their self-esteem is strong. One of them has a degree in anthropology and will tell you that ideas of beauty and sexuality are "culture bound"—that these ideas are not universal or fixed, and that they vary and fluctuate depending on place and time. They will tell you that too many people suffer because the body they live in is not the body you find in the fashion magazines.

My process was simple, yet different than how I h ad worked in the past. I was initially interested in revisiting two works of female subjects by Herb Ritts and Helmut Newton: specifically Ritts' image of a group of supermodels, who were posed nude and clustered together on the floor, and a Newton diptych wherein the two images are identical in pose, ex cept one image showed the models clothed, and the other showed them unclothed. The models were shown the images by Herb Ritts and Helmut Newton and they were quite prepared to present themselves in response to the poses that those images suggested. I asked them to be proud, which was a condition they took to easily, quite naturally. Having completed the compositions that were initially planned, I then asked them to play some music that they had brought with them, and they quickly responded to the rhythms, dancing in a free-form circular movement with in the space. It was clear that they were comfortable with the situation, with each other, and were enjoying themselves.

With these new images, I am now hearing different words. Sometimes "beautiful," but with a different sub-text. I hear comments, which lead to questions. The questions lead to discussions—about beauty, social acceptability, plastic surgery, our culture and health. In these pictures these women are proudly wearing their own skin. They respect themselves and I hope that my images convey that to others.

Pictures don't show how the fat jiggles when they walk and how much they sweat or the amount of body odur they produce and notice that they use too much shadow in the photos for a reason.

 

[strams4ever]

Oh my Watson, this is precisly what I have been fearing.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

If a fat person tells you that you should love them for who they are, you should respond, "If you want others to respect your body, why do you treat it like a garbage dump and stuff it with unhealthy food?"

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

They are using the media claiming that they are victims and that we (society) are "brainwashed" into thinking that being thin is attractive.

Errr... being thin IS attractive, and most importantly....IT'S HEALTHY.

Any excuse for lack of motivation to stay in shape that these fat asses can come up with, they'll use.

Im starting to really get disgusted by fat people. It's so gross.

And the excuses just make me want to ***** slap everyone of them... grow some balls and take charge of your body, you weak minded fvcks..... Anyone that says that CAN'T lose the weight is full of sh!t...... unless ther is a real underlying medical condition. (thyroid problem, Anti-Depressant pills....etc...)

 

[Visceral]

This isn't exactly anything new. The disadvantaged have always been trying to hold their particular way of life up as the better or more noble one, while condemning anything genuinely better or more noble as immoral or self-indulgent.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Fat people are saving social security by dying early. That's why the US government does not care that 80% of America is overweight.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

You guys care too much about bullsheit. If fatties want to love themselves and their fatness, who cares, how does this change your life???? Live and let live.....

This place is more emotional than a powder room of pms'ing B.itches.

Every other post is someone whinning and ****, complaining. For a forum that preaches alpha/ be a man bullsh.it, we have quite a few emotional men.

 

[Paintballguy]

That is ****ing digusting.... I hate fat *****es. Yuck

 

[DJDamage]

Originally posted by Bible_Belt
Fat people are saving social security by dying early. That's why the US government does not care that 80% of America is overweight.

Yeah but fat people are a burden for health care. They are much more susceptible for heart diseases/cardio and cancer. In Canada wev'e got universal health care which is great since you don't have to run to the hospital and pay through the roof if you get sick all of the sudden or get into a major accident.

However its a burden for the health care system itself because many older people who did not take care of themselves when they were younger are now really fat and sick. They are clogging hospital beds and resources.

If more people excersized and stopped eating bad food, the health care system will not be in the deteriorating condition that it is today. Which is why this "fat movement" is ridiculous because they are promoting something which is not healthy.

 

[DJDamage]

Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
You guys care too much about bullsheit. If fatties want to love themselves and their fatness, who cares, how does this change your life???? Live and let live.....

There are too many women out there that have led themselves go! Fat has become the norm! We want more healthy minded and physically fit women out there!! if you ever wish to get married and your sexy slim/fit wife drops a kid and stays fat because Operah and the "fat movement" tells her its ok she is still attractive while blaming you for being insensetive, what are you going to do then??

I don't know about everyone else but FAT people are increasing in number and sizes and the pool of decent women to date are shrinking each day. It is a DJ issue especially if you live in North America.

 

[Vincent]

And here I always thought skinny chicks were attractive, So did the little man.

Damn you society

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
You guys care too much about bullsheit. If fatties want to love themselves and their fatness, who cares, how does this change your life???? Live and let live.....

This place is more emotional than a powder room of pms'ing B.itches.

Every other post is someone whinning and ****, complaining. For a forum that preaches alpha/ be a man bullsh.it, we have quite a few emotional men.

Top 2 bitc.hes on so suave

chancer (depressed- self hatred)
tristan (racist/ the new victim)

while I agree with this post, that isn't the issue, here.

Someone made a good point about the fat poeple dying early and saving the government $$$ That's a very interesting view on the situation.

I'm a very compassionate guy, all around, and my problem is watching people around me destroy themselves.... then not fess up to the fact that it is their own fault.

It just shows a lack of self-discipline, and that tends to bleed into other areas of their lives.... Not the kind of people i want to surround myself with (no pun intended)

 

[ShizamDaMan]

NO FAT CHIX

For life.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by DJDamage
It seems that latley there has been a surge in fat people who are part of a group calling themselves "fat liberation". They are using the media claiming that they are victims and that we (society) are "brainwashed" into thinking that being thin is attractive.

Aren't these the same people who are trying to make SUPER-SIZE a food group?

 

[Wyldfire]

You guys spend far too much time complaining about fat women. If you don't like them you don't have to date them. But why do you get your undies all in a wad over it? There are plenty of fat men too, but you don't often hear women whining about them.

I wonder what would happen if all women were substantially heavier than what you all prefer. Would you learn to accept fat women or would you turn gay? :crackup:

Seriously, though...it's really none of anyone's business how much anyone else weighs or how fat they are. If you don't like it then don't look at them...it's really quite simple. If I see a dude with man-boobies I just look away. I don't hate on him or get angry just because he's got man-boobies...I just don't look at him.

 

[Luveno]

If it is ok to be a fat person, why isn't it ok to be a crack addict? I don't get it.


Anyway...


Wyldfire, I understand what you're saying. Why the heck do guys even care that there are fat people?? Why don't we get on with our lives?

I have a few reasons:

1. They die because of it. This puts a huge burden on the health care system, which could be better used to ..lets say... treat children with cancer. Fat diseases are the number 1 killer in North America.

2. Their presence makes thin women more bytchy, due to AFC guys making the thin ones believe they're goddesses. Ever meet Brazilians? Swedes? They don't have half the attitude that north american women have, and you know why? It's because there are less fat girls over there- this makes it crucial for those attractive girls to have more going for them than their looks.

3. It is unattractive to look at. The more widely accepted it is, the more guys are going to have to look at it as they walk down the street. God help you if you live in a warm part of the USA.

4. Most women are fat. Therefore, the dating game is a lot more difficult due to their presence. Less fat women = more approaches = more dates!

You also mentioned that women don't complain about fat men either. That's because looks are not paramount to a man's sexual attractiveness. For females, looks are, initially, the most important factor.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
You guys spend far too much time complaining about fat women. If you don't like them you don't have to date them. But why do you get your undies all in a wad over it? There are plenty of fat men too, but you don't often hear women whining about them.

I wonder what would happen if all women were substantially heavier than what you all prefer. Would you learn to accept fat women or would you turn gay? :crackup:

Seriously, though...it's really none of anyone's business how much anyone else weighs or how fat they are. If you don't like it then don't look at them...it's really quite simple. If I see a dude with man-boobies I just look away. I don't hate on him or get angry just because he's got man-boobies...I just don't look at him.

It's not that they're fat, it's just imposing their seemingly self righteous ideal. It's no different than religion. So what there's several types, it's just when someone attempts to force theirs on someone else, that's when the problems begin.

So yeah, people have the right to be fat; and people have the right not to accept people justifying their fatness. People have preferences and individual perceptions.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

By the way, isn't Fat Liberation Movement the motion hands make to unbuckle a belt?

 

[penkitten]

they made this miss fat america contest on tv and some of those ladies were very pretty even if they were fat.

 

[DJDamage]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
It's not that they're fat, it's just imposing their seemingly self righteous ideal. It's no different than religion. So what there's several types, it's just when someone attempts to force theirs on someone else, that's when the problems begin.

So yeah, people have the right to be fat; and people have the right not to accept people justifying their fatness. People have preferences and individual perceptions.

Exactly what this post is all about, couldn't have said it better Francisco.

People who often feel as victims or are victims in society help to create movements to help them cope better and feel better about their situation. However when the movement wants their reality to be accepted by everyone in society by projecting their reality on them, then their will be conflict because its not everyone else's reality. Some movements are good and some are bad. This one is bad.

Its just like the homosexuals movement, there is nothing wrong with it if you are one, but as soon as you come on t.v and tell stright guys that they should experiment with other guys or making fun of stright guys and calling them lame then its unacceptable. What they are doing is trying to brainwash society to accept their reality so that hopefully others will follow and become homos and thus their reality will become the norm not the exception and they won't feel bad about it.

The Fat Liberation Movement wants the world to stay fat so that they won't feel bad about being fat!