False egos, status anxiety, and the pitfalls of our generation: A RANT

[zekko]

I'm not gonna improve myself, and increase my value and settle for a 7 or an 8.

It's ironic that in a thread complaining about girls holding out for the 10 guys, we have guys wanting to hold out for 9s and 10s. Here's what I think:

I don't believe in 10s, they don't exist.

HB9s are not entirely unobtainable, as long as you're just looking for the pump and dump. But I firmly believe HB9s are not suitable for LTRs because they have been ruined by all the male attention they receive. And if they are not receiving massive male attention, I find it questionable that they are really 9s. Even if you are famous, wealthy, and good looking, eventually she will just divorce you and take half your money.

Which leaves 7s and 8s as the best you can get (long term). 7s and 8s are hot and attractive, I don't see what the problem is. Just like the girls on Facebook, what makes you guys think you "deserve" a 9, when HB9s will just make you miserable in the long term anyway?

Anything less than a 6 I don't consider "doable".

 

[Gro0ver]

It's ironic that in a thread complaining about girls holding out for the 10 guys, we have guys wanting to hold out for 9s and 10s. Here's what I think:

I don't believe in 10s, they don't exist.

HB9s are not entirely unobtainable, as long as you're just looking for the pump and dump. But I firmly believe HB9s are not suitable for LTRs because they have been ruined by all the male attention they receive. And if they are not receiving massive male attention, I find it questionable that they are really 9s. Even if you are famous, wealthy, and good looking, eventually she will just divorce you and take half you money.

Which leaves 7s and 8s as the best you can get (long term). 7s and 8s are hot and attractive, I don't see what the problem is. Just like the girls on Facebook, what makes you guys think you "deserve" a 9, when HB9s will just make you miserable in the long term anyway?

Anything less than a 6 I don't consider "doable".

Good post! Funny enough I normally dislike most 9's that I meet especially if it's out in clubs & bars, a majority of them seem like they only after attention and can seem shallow/have bad chat probably because they haven't had to use their personality to get attention from guys much.

Give me a 7 or 8 who is intelligent + interesting any day over an HB9 with dry conversation + princess attitude!

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Hi,

Zekko is spot on. 10´s don´t exist (at least in an absolute scale), the most beautiful women on the planet are far from perfect. When you guys talk about 10´s you are most likely dating a 7/8.
But notice that most girls are just average, in the night club, they are easily perceived as 2 points higher than they really are. The make up during the day does miracles.

 

[MisterD]

B!TCH INFLATION..lol Mister D just coined an awesome term to accurately describe this phenomena. Lmao i think ***** inflation deserves an entry on urbandictionary.com

haha thanks, actually its called Pu$$y inflation but with the filter you cant tell what's what

 

[MisterD]

It's ironic that in a thread complaining about girls holding out for the 10 guys, we have guys wanting to hold out for 9s and 10s. Here's what I think:

I don't believe in 10s, they don't exist.

HB9s are not entirely unobtainable, as long as you're just looking for the pump and dump. But I firmly believe HB9s are not suitable for LTRs because they have been ruined by all the male attention they receive. And if they are not receiving massive male attention, I find it questionable that they are really 9s. Even if you are famous, wealthy, and good looking, eventually she will just divorce you and take half your money.

Which leaves 7s and 8s as the best you can get (long term). 7s and 8s are hot and attractive, I don't see what the problem is. Just like the girls on Facebook, what makes you guys think you "deserve" a 9, when HB9s will just make you miserable in the long term anyway?

Anything less than a 6 I don't consider "doable".

alright forget the numbers for a second then--my point is girls that are lower quality are holding out for the same men that higher quality women are. i have no problem going to all these lengths to make myself high quality, so i attract a woman of the same range. but doing all this work for a woman i feel is not worth it? no. and like i said in a previous post, a lot of the single girls i know are definitely attractive, maybe not the pinnacle of beauty, but more than passable, except they've priced themselves out of the market by having unrealistic standards. part of what made them believe they deserve the highest quality men is all the attention they get online and via texts. they start to believe they can hang with the best of them

 

[LostAndConfused]

alright forget the numbers for a second then--my point is girls that are lower quality are holding out for the same men that higher quality women are. i have no problem going to all these lengths to make myself high quality, so i attract a woman of the same range. but doing all this work for a woman i feel is not worth it? no. and like i said in a previous post, a lot of the single girls i know are definitely attractive, maybe not the pinnacle of beauty, but more than passable, except they've priced themselves out of the market by having unrealistic standards. part of what made them believe they deserve the highest quality men is all the attention they get online and via texts. they start to believe they can hang with the best of them

Everyone please re-read this, because my post was TL;DR.


I honestly believe the hottest guy a girl gets pump n dumped by sets the bar for the NEXT man. What happens when the man has 9/10 model looks, money, ambition, and a brazen swagger? You don't even need to add in height, basically, this girl is ruined for any other quality guy who comes next.

This is why I disagree with Zekko's point of irony. The hottest girl I dated was a 9.5. I really think you're entering 9.5-10 range when the girl is so exotic looking that you can't find another "run of the mill" girl to compare. If you were to see this girl, you'd know she's one out of a billion. Literally. That's why I give your average American blonde bombshell a solid 9, no higher. Why? You can find them on every single 4 year or community college campus. But if you compare your hottest girls with your best friends hottest girls, you're more likely to rate yours as hotter. That's psychology at work.

Honestly, most of the "hot girls" I date/lay are 7-8s, rarely higher, so my ego inflation can only go so far. Very few 9+ there.

Anyways HB9.5 didn't go to my university but almost everyone knew her. She was one of those girls who knew she was so hot she could literally do whatever she wanted. I'd take her to parties, leave her alone for only a few minutes and she's either yelling at some girl or emasculating/belittling some guy who overplayed his hand with her.

She was literally the worst girl I ever dated. Always insecure, and think of the amount of pre-selection you get when you're dating a hottie..... I had other girls spontaneously asking me for hookups. No lie.

Am I holding out for another 9.5? Don't hold your breath.......

My point is that girls ARE waiting for that 9.5 again.

 

[Orchard]

Being a single parent I have to take issue with the beginning quote, and I also have to wonder exactly how much time any of you have actually spent with a child for you to take such a ridiculous assertion as a given.

Now onto the main point. I don't really feel like wasting too much time so I'll just go a head and get myself crucified by saying, Congratulations, you're all now jaded misogynists! Now what do you plan to do with your new found powers of woman hating?

 

[Konada]

Honestly if you feel entitled to a HB8/9 just because you're on a road to self improvement shows that you're doing it entirely for the wrong reasons.

 

[perseverance]

Keep calm and have a cup of tea.

I don't get why some men get so worked up about women. They must have very little going on their lives to allow outside forces to control their emotions/feelings.

I tend to stay away from the game nowadays because I just got bored of it. I'd much rather go to the gym on a Friday night when it's quiet and just do a nice, solid two hour gym session, come home, open a bottle of beer and just laze around in front of the television.

I'm all about self-improvement these days which leaves virtually no time for women which is fantastic because I don't have a single problem in my life and I wake up everyday, happy as I can possibly be!

Dating is just a form of entertainment, it's like a video game, if you're playing a video game online against other people, you're doing badly and you're starting to get angry, just turn off your console and take a break from it. Do this with dating when it gets too much and you'll be fine.

 

[Wilko]

I'm a much improved product compared to where I was five years ago when I first earnestly started applying Game. The result? I work twice as hard for half as much pu$$y. I attribute that to anglosphere-wide changes in the dating market. Quite frustrating, but I can't change the reality of the situation.

Admittedly, I don't have much interest in mundane dating experiences any more, so that is colouring my perception of things.

Where does it go from here? Honestly, I'm hitting that cost/benefit point where wh0res are starting to look like an attractive, sensible option.

Maybe that's what it will take before the market corrects itself - Huge swathes of men in the 6-8 range dropping out of the dating market altogether.

 

[themechanic9999]

Great post and I agree with just about everything that's been said, but what's the answer? Abstinence or paying for escorts doesn't seem like much of a solution to me.

 

[MrJibbles]

Being a single parent I have to take issue with the beginning quote, and I also have to wonder exactly how much time any of you have actually spent with a child for you to take such a ridiculous assertion as a given.

Now onto the main point. I don't really feel like wasting too much time so I'll just go a head and get myself crucified by saying, Congratulations, you're all now jaded misogynists! Now what do you plan to do with your new found powers of woman hating?

Take it out on you. Seriously, give us answers, oh wise one.

 

[bigneil]

Better looking people are less faithful in general. Not as a function of their being more evil or less caring. Rather, it's a function of the number of options they have. They have more options so they reject more people and meet more people they like who are attracted to them than we do.

I learned that the term HB9.5 is subjective - it means the hottest girl YOU know, but hardly anyone else will agree with the same girl, so using the HB term is misleading. Women all create an illusion of themselves with makeup, lighting and outfits. Only if she is your ideal DNA match will she really conjure up the image of your dream girl. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I was happy when others didn't think my last date was as hot as I did (though anyone who saw her in person did). I don't need any more competition than I already have.

Also note that HB means Hot Babe, so there is no HB6 or lower. Even calling a 7 a Hot Babe is pushing it.

 

[Burroughs]

I don't hate them for getting it. I hate what it does to them. For example--I'm an amateur photographer. A couple of weeks ago, since I have an iphone, I decided to join instagram for kicks. A social networking app where you post pics and people like, comment, follow, etc. Now, I gain about 15-20 followers a day, it's incredible for me personally. People of all different backgrounds and walks of life following me and commenting my pictures telling me how good I am. I gain a hundred followers or more a week, for every week I've been on it. And the more follows and comments I get, the more humbled I get. I don't feel my work is better than anyone else's, and I still feel I'm the same skill level I was before I joined. It's been nice to see so many people appreciate my work, but it hasn't improved my actual work. At the end of the day, I'm still a budding photog with lots to learn.

However, with these women (not all, but a lot), when they get all these followers on twitter, or friends on facebook, they use it to feed their egos. They'll upload a provocative photo of themselves and then caption it with something like "ugh! i look so ugly in this dress!" which signals the alarm for all the afc white knight ***** beggars to come out in full support and leave comment after embarrassing comment (to which she doesn't respond of course). Or she'll post a meaningless status update and get 100 likes within the hour. They love that attention. Before they had to dress up and go out to get this kind of attention, now they have it sent to them on their phones or computers. It's like a drug for most of them, and I hate that. They start believing they really are a perfect 10 and as such, start having higher demands when it comes to choosing a mate, even though they are not the perfect 10's they think they are.

So, two parties are to blame, in my opinion. The women for letting the attention inflate their egos, and the people who actually do inflate their egos. They're creating a monster and don't realize it

BIATCH INFLATION

Yes this is a problem that is increasing by the month, nerd chicks, hb 5s all these chicks feel entitled by their fake internet attention to go after 10s in real life.....good luck convincing them otherwise

until they get too old

problem is all the young chicks we wanna fvck feel entitled coming up after them...