False Dichotomy: Women's Numbers Professionally vs. Personally

[Stugots26]

Feel free to disagree, but I think I'm on to something here:

As an attorney, I get a fair bit of solicitation on LinkedIn and via email. Recently something caught my attention - women who are either in legal recruiting with lateral positions to offer me or women in custom men's suits with deals to offer me, all of whom don't know me apart from LinkedIn, yet all of whom offer me their cell phone numbers without me having to ask.

Now let's turn to dating apps, like Tinder, Hinge, etc.

Women who have matched with me already. I'm pretty crystal clear about not having time for nonsense and I use it to gauge compliance - I ask for the number in my first message. Some women give it to me, some never respond, and some give me a hard time. Only reason for not getting a number from a woman who's presumably supposed to be interested is "stranger danger."

But I think there's something else going on...

What if it's because when there's commission to be made, a woman offers you her number without request because converting you to a sale translates to her success. When it's you getting a number from her in the romantic sense, it's about your success.

The only reason a woman would give out a number when it's in her interest but not when it's in yours is because she is trying to wield power. This is why I ask right away, because if she's going to play games and attempt to control you by not giving you something you want in an attempt to make it seem more valuable than it is, she's just NOT WORTH YOUR TIME.

 

[parkthebus]

I agree but I will add. Women don't tend to ask for numbers, even if they really want to see you again. Its actually quite natural for men to do the chasing sexually. Women primarily want the benefits of having a man too look after them. If she asks for your number, she is suggesting she wants sex which then leaves her powerless in the negotiation of getting what she can from a mate.

 

[Stugots26]

I agree but I will add. Women don't tend to ask for numbers, even if they really want to see you again. Its actually quite natural for men to do the chasing sexually. Women primarily want the benefits of having a man too look after them. If she asks for your number, she is suggesting she wants sex which then leaves her powerless in the negotiation of getting what she can from a mate.

I'm not suggesting they ask for numbers. I'm simply saying that I've noticed women offering me numbers without me having to ask when it means it will help them somehow. There's no excuse that I'm a "stranger." No fear that I might be "creepy," "stalkerish," "weird," or "obsessive." No stranger danger. No "I'm not comfortable giving out my number right away." If there's something in it for them, they'll look right past that.

However, when it comes to dating apps and I'm just as much of a stranger and a potential "creep" as far as a woman might know, suddenly I get a hard time.

Now keep in mind that I'm the opposite of pushy, needy, obsessive - I get in touch once when I get a number, when I have a chance, and don't do anything until I hear from her.

But there's no good reason why a woman should feel any more secure with giving personal contact information to a stranger because she thinks she might get something out of it. So all it means is that her excuses when you ask because you're interested are BULL$H!T.

 

[parkthebus]

Well people make up reasons for something when they can't explain something. Those words and phrases are her attempting to explain why she's not attracted to you. The best example of women trying to explain their sexuality is: "I don't do one night stands because it doesn't mean anything". There's obviously biological drives in play here that they're not aware of so they just use a broad sweeping statement to explain away.

 

[cola]

Bruh, as an attorney if you are at a bare minimum average looking i couldn't imagine how you have trouble with women..

Your whole career is based on game principles.
-Amoging other attorney
-Winning over a group of peers
-Saying enough but not too much
-Knowing when to be quiet
-Confident Body Language
-Leaving some mystery
-Not coming off as needy

All these are things any successful attorney needs.. you should be aeons above struggling to get Tinder numbers

Not trying to discourage you, more like encourage you..
My boy just passed his bar, he SWIMS in vagina
Hes probably the only guy I know who can legit hit the night scene and leave with a girl more than HALF the time.


He's always the best dressed by default wherever we go because when he comes out to party hes just getting off from work.
Ofcourse women dont know that they just assume he's a snazzy dresser.
A lawyer is probably the best job for any redpill male to use our skillset and make serious bank..

Screw Tinder, let that attorney charm work for you at bars

 

[Stugots26]

Bruh, as an attorney if you are at a bare minimum average looking i couldn't imagine how you have trouble with women..

Your whole career is based on game principles.
-Amoging other attorney
-Winning over a group of peers
-Saying enough but not too much
-Knowing when to be quiet
-Confident Body Language
-Leaving some mystery
-Not coming off as needy

All these are things any successful attorney needs

I agree with you and appreciate the reply. I'm not struggling for numbers, and I don't sweat it on Tinder responses. It's more just kicking around theory on here based on past observations.

Congrats and good luck to your boy.

 

[Serenity]

I thought women gained success in dating too? Men aren't the only ones gaining something in dating.

In a good trade there's no losing party either.

If you think women gain no success in getting your number on Tinder it says more about you, that you consider yourself worthless. I'm being blunt, but I think this is a fair point. I'm not trying to offend you, just highlighting the subtleties.

I don't think it's as risky to share numbers on LinkedIn as it is on Tinder, because of the nature of the services. There's more fvcked up people on a dating app, more reason to be careful about personal details. You don't see pvssy thirsty stalkers on LinkedIn because it's designed for business, numbers are much less likely to be abused.