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War isn't always a bad thing in the big picture, sometimes it's necessary. It can reduce population which is good for the environment.

Seems like over population can cause a lot of suffering amongst the population and strain resources.

I believe the best way to live was like Indians, living off the land and letting people die from disease or infection. It's part of evolution. The strong survive. I don't condone keeping sick people alive with machines or drugs. Just let them go.

But it is how it is in our society.

I say let people pass on. Accept it. They suffer less this way.
90% of the time, you would be correct.

But what about the other 10%? The strong people who get killed in accidents? And, it's mostly strong people who have the balls to fight in wars, so by and large they are who dies, not the weak.
 

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I believe the best way to live was like Indians, living off the land and letting people die from disease or infection. It's part of evolution. The strong survive. I don't condone keeping sick people alive with machines or drugs. Just let them go.
Dawkins' "Extended Phenotype" theory would disagree. Genotype is our genes. Phenotype is our appearance. Dawkins suggest that our ability to build things (like machines that keep us alive) are part of our makeup, kind of like snails and various crustaceans nearly ALWAYS have shells, or like beavers are programmed to build dams.

The part of living like Indians sounds kind of cool, but remember, no meds, no painkillers, no doctors. Break your leg and you're in awful pain.

Also, there is a STRONG correlation between population and oil production. No matter how much you are a fan of green energy, once oil goes, humans go. Except for the 1% to can hack it. POST and PRE oil alpha are of a fundamentally different makeup than Oil Economy alphas (bankers, politicians, movie starts, CEO's).

 

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Dawkins' "Extended Phenotype" theory would disagree. Genotype is our genes. Phenotype is our appearance. Dawkins suggest that our ability to build things (like machines that keep us alive) are part of our makeup, kind of like snails and various crustaceans nearly ALWAYS have shells, or like beavers are programmed to build dams.

The part of living like Indians sounds kind of cool, but remember, no meds, no painkillers, no doctors. Break your leg and you're in awful pain.

Also, there is a STRONG correlation between population and oil production. No matter how much you are a fan of green energy, once oil goes, humans go. Except for the 1% to can hack it. POST and PRE oil alpha are of a fundamentally different makeup than Oil Economy alphas (bankers, politicians, movie starts, CEO's).

Sure. Because we are a natural living organism everything we do is natural. When a be process nectar into honey it's considered natural so us processing and burning fossil fuel is also natural.

But we dirty the gene pool by keeping sick or unhealthy people alive. It defeats the purpose of survival of the fittest.
 
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Also, there is a STRONG correlation between population and oil production. No matter how much you are a fan of green energy, once oil goes, humans go. Except for the 1% to can hack it. POST and PRE oil alpha are of a fundamentally different makeup than Oil Economy alphas (bankers, politicians, movie starts, CEO's).

Penicillin?
 

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Sure. Because we are a natural living organism everything we do is natural. When a be process nectar into honey it's considered natural so us processing and burning fossil fuel is also natural.

But we dirty the gene pool by keeping sick or unhealthy people alive. It defeats the purpose of survival of the fittest.
Only those who reproduce contribute to the gene pool, correct? A midget who never gets laid can't make another midget. He always could donate to a sperm bank but I wonder how that works... Can they reject you on such a basis? That would be funny.
 

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Another thing that saddens me is that while one man lives in misery, another man will profit off of his demise. I know the world will be even more screwed up in my lifetime. I just want to be a winner. That's all you can do, right?
 

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That same success allowed people to divert their time from working 16 hours a day to survive.....to many now working for "social justice" causes and bloating our government, thus making us far less productive and fragile.
I wonder how ole Bernie, old as he he is, still believes in this stuff. I understand Obama and his minions, they are just plain dumb and naive. But Bernie is like 97 years old, how has he not be knocked in the face with reality yet? His father was a Polish Jew......didn't he see enough socialism in Germany at the time? Oh wait, they accuse the Republicans of being like Hitler. The bizarro world of libtards goes on...
 

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It's a move to get the tea party's vote. Very good strategy actually. It doesn't affect the votes he's already going to get, it just adds 3% more (as if the tea party would vote Hillary anyways).

You will see Hillary is going to destroy Trump. It will be a landslide.
 

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The correlation between absent/neglectful fathers and negative effects like these is stronger than ethnicity and social class, which you will see reflected in blacks since they have a higher rate of fatherlessness. I can't see if the newspaper brought that up, but it should if it didn't.
Whats the age range, because if it's 15-23, then from 15-18 80% might be in school but not working and from the 19-23's they might have jobs but almost not in school. So you can play with the percentages to make the stat.
 

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The correlation between absent/neglectful fathers and negative effects like these is stronger than ethnicity and social class, which you will see reflected in blacks since they have a higher rate of fatherlessness. I can't see if the newspaper brought that up, but it should if it didn't.
The problems with any thing involving "stats" and "humans" is it is literally IMPOSSIBLE to draw any meaningful conclusions, since stats and any scientific understanding of anything involving variables requires two things:

1) To be able to separate the variables one at a time

2) To repeat any event several times based on (1)

This is why all medical studies, social studies, etc. are necessarily flawed, and are dependent on the intention (conscious or unconscious) of the person or entity doing the study (which often times costs plenty of $$ if only to collect the data). So ANYTHING you see in the newspaper, medical journals, politicians, etc. is necessarily going to be SPUN a certain way for a certain reason. Usually that reason is hidden, and they results are claimed to be "scientific."

Everybody's got their own pet theories, none of which can really be "proven" or "disproven." Which means we mus rely on common sense, something FEW PEOPLE have very much of.

For example, if your above argument, it may very well be that "fatherlessness" is the main DIRECT cause, but there are many, many INDIRECT causes. (What causes fatherlessness, etc.)

You could argue that the welfare state allows for fatherlessness, but what creates the welfare state? Government? People? Combination? White people? Black people?

Most people naturally look to the government for the solution, when they might be the cause.

Which may lead to an argument that governments exist (as they have always existed in every society) due to human nature.

Which means the problems of society are ultimately because of human nature.

Which doesn't help anybody solve anything.
 

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The variables were separated one at a time, that's how they found out fatherlessness is the most significant. In this case it is not spun or flawed. When we know that, we can research the reasons why fathers abandon their families, from politically correct variables that blame the man and support feminism like they are actually criminal, their own father abandoned them, the man is no good, etc. to incorrect ones that go against feminism (and so would never be given acceptance) like the mother chose a criminal to make kids with, the mother drove him away with her behaviour, the mother divorced the father and took the kids because she never cared for him and just wanted to use him to make kids (which can be the true reason behind him being blamed as "no good"), etc. Then you look at what in society generates and enables these behaviours and fix that. This will of course never happen since we are run by feminists and their allies, but it's how things would go if we weren't.
 

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The variables were separated one at a time, that's how they found out fatherlessness is the most significant.
I'm sorry, but that's impossible. Unless they looked at data sets including AT LEAST the following:

Fatherless children - upper class

Fatherless children - middle class

Fatherless children - lower class

And ALL the above separated by race, number of kids, neighborhood crime level, percent of neighbors who were also fatherless (10, 50, 75% etc), type of school (private, public etc).
 

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http://in.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets-idINKCN0V701J

the Bank of Japan stunned markets by adopting negative interest rates......"The BOJ decision was a massive surprise. It's further money printing from Japan on a massive scale after having told the markets that they're not doing it," said Will Hamlyn, investment analyst at Manulife Asset Management
 

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-markets-idUSKCN0VK24E

Even if the severity of the selling tapers off, 2016 will likely continue to be a bad year for stocks, said Mohannad Aama, managing director at Beam Capital Management in New York. The S&P 500 stock index is down approximately 10.3 percent for the year to date, while the Nasdaq Composite is down more than 15 percent over the same time.

"Although we’ve being seeing good job numbers, the general feeling is that the U.S. economy is nearing a peak and there is not much left as far as trends to be talked about," Aama said.
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...mic-disaster-louisianas-governor-left-behind/

Louisiana stands at the brink of economic disaster. Without sharp and painful tax increases in the coming weeks, the government will cease to offer many of its vital services, including education opportunities and certain programs for the needy. A few universities will shut down and declare bankruptcy. Graduations will be canceled. Students will lose scholarships. Select hospitals will close. Patients will lose funding for treatment of disabilities. Some reports of child abuse will go uninvestigated.

“Doomsday,” said Marketa Garner Walters, the head of Louisiana’s Department of Children and Family Services. If the state can’t raise any new revenue, her agency’s budget, like several others, will be slashed 60 percent.

“At that level,” she said in an interview, “the agency is unsustainable.”

But even if Louisiana’s Republican-dominated legislature approves certain tax increases, as most expect, the state still would grapple with problems. The taxes — which could include hikes on everything from groceries to salaries — would dig into the pockets of citizens in a state where 18 percent live in poverty and where the median income is 20 percent below the national average. And the taxes alone won’t close the gap. Nasty cuts will still be necessary, meaning Louisiana will be taking more from its 4.6 million people while offering them less.
 

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Board approves JALC layoffs after hundreds voice outrage
http://www.wsiltv.com/story/31372297/board-approves-jalc-layoffs-after-hundreds-voice-outrage


That junior college is near me. I know a guy who was one of the 55 people laid off. The state went from the top down in whom they chose to fire. Everyone fired had tenure. These were the people who got paid the most, because they had been there the longest or were just the most qualified. And that's who gets fired - the best employees, not the worst.
 
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