Facebook Now Has 50 Ways to State Your Gender

[Desdinova]

Ummm.... What????

http://www.policymic.com/articles/8...-for-users-to-choose-from?utm_source=upworthy

 

[Eph]

Saw this the other day. Personally, I think its stupid. You're either male or female. Well, excluding hermaphrodites. Whether you were born that gender is a different story, but its ridiculous to have all of these other options.

 

[Jaylan]

Saw this the other day. Personally, I think its stupid. You're either male or female. Well, excluding hermaphrodites. Whether you were born that gender is a different story, but its ridiculous to have all of these other options.

Agree, but I say let people socially identify however they wanna identify. At the end of the day, we all know how science truly classifies all this.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Here's the list of options beyond m/f:

Agender
Androgyne
Androgynous
Bigender
Cis
Cisgender
Cis Female
Cis Male
Cis Man
Cis Woman
Cisgender Female
Cisgender Male
Cisgender Man
Cisgender Woman
Female to Male
FTM
Gender Fluid
Gender Nonconforming
Gender Questioning
Gender Variant
Genderqueer
Intersex
Male to Female
MTF
Neither
Neutrois
Non-binary
Other
Pangender
Trans
Trans*
Trans Female
Trans* Female
Trans Male
Trans* Male
Trans Man
Trans* Man
Trans Person
Trans* Person
Trans Woman
Trans* Woman
Transfeminine
Transgender
Transgender Female
Transgender Male
Transgender Man
Transgender Person
Transgender Woman
Transmasculine
Transsexual
Transsexual Female
Transsexual Male
Transsexual Man
Transsexual Person
Transsexual Woman
Two-Spirit

 

[speed dawg]

Agree, but I say let people socially identify however they wanna identify. At the end of the day, we all know how science truly classifies all this.

I agree that people should do what they want.

But let me ask you this - do you think that being a transgender, gay, lesbian, etc. is a perversion/abnormal/etc.?

 

[Desdinova]

I never really had a problem with any of this until people started bringing children into the picture. I couldn't help but wonder what the end results were going to be. Last summer, I got to see it first hand for myself.

A female friend of mine ended up with a new bf. I went over there for a bbq and he had his two daughters over. I didn't know much about him, so I started conversing with him to see if I could get to know him better.

He went over to his youngest daughter (in her 20s) and whispered something in her ear. She screamed "THAT'S NOT FAIR!" and ran into the house crying. I'm thinking, "Okay, WTF did he just say to her?

While she was in the house crying, he told me that he was transgender. He used to be a woman and had all the surgeries that would make him into a man. He had facial hair and everything.

His oldest daughter is a lesbian, and has just brought a baby girl into the world with her partner. Both of his daughters call him "Mom", but have been requested to avoid the term in the presence of people who aren't "in the know". The problem the family was facing was trying to figure out what the grandchildren should call him.

Now, think about all of this. These people are reproducing. None of them are straight. If science didn't exist for reproductive purposes, this strain of family would die off. If the entire world became gay, the entire world would die off and we'd cease to exist as a species.

This is where I have a problem. We're manufacturing humans that are technically unfit for reproduction. Being gay may be a natural thing that occurs, but manufacturing humans that nature would otherwise kill off (eventually) isn't natural.

 

[speed dawg]

A female friend of mine ended up with a new bf. I went over there for a bbq and he had his two daughters over. I didn't know much about him, so I started conversing with him to see if I could get to know him better.

He went over to his youngest daughter (in her 20s) and whispered something in her ear. She screamed "THAT'S NOT FAIR!" and ran into the house crying. I'm thinking, "Okay, WTF did he just say to her?

While she was in the house crying, he told me that he was transgender. He used to be a woman and had all the surgeries that would make him into a man. He had facial hair and everything.

His oldest daughter is a lesbian, and has just brought a baby girl into the world with her partner. Both of his daughters call him "Mom", but have been requested to avoid the term in the presence of people who aren't "in the know". The problem the family was facing was trying to figure out what the grandchildren should call him.

This confused the sh*t out of me just reading it. No telling what it does to little kids.

This is where I have a problem. We're manufacturing humans that are technically unfit for reproduction. Being gay may be a natural thing that occurs, but manufacturing humans that nature would otherwise kill off (eventually) isn't natural.

In keeping with this....how did the oldest lesbian daughter obtain their baby? Adoption/sperm bank? And furthermore, if what some people say about gays is correct (that they are born with it), is there any evidence yet of heterosexuality among gay couples' kids? And I wonder if it's possible to 'teach' gayness? Because you can bet that most gay parents are not teaching sexual freedom. That in and of itself is hypocritical.

 

[Desdinova]

In keeping with this....how did the oldest lesbian daughter obtain their baby? Adoption/sperm bank?

Sperm bank

 

[Bible_Belt]

1.2 billion users and counting.

Facebook's eventual death has been predicted by epidemiologists. The only thing that grows that fast is a disease, so mathematically they turn out to be very similar. And they die off as quickly as they spring up.

Practically, what is killing facebook is that people my age are on it, and their kids are getting old enough to become the next demographic of users. But when you're a teenager, the epitome of uncoolness is anything associated with your parents. So younger generations are moving to other social networking sites. In 30 years, when people my age start dying off, there won't be much left of facebook.

 

[Jaylan]

Regarding Des's last post....seeing as over 90% of people are straight...the human race is doing just fine and will always be fine. Non-straight reproduction only helps further over populate this planet

I agree that people should do what they want.

But let me ask you this - do you think that being a transgender, gay, lesbian, etc. is a perversion/abnormal/etc.?

No I do not. They don't choose to be that way, the same way we don't choose to be straight. Those folks are a natural occurrence despite being more rare.

Having close family members and friends who aren't straight has taught me a lot. Live and let live. I don't care how law abiding citizens live in their personal lives. They deserve the same rights and respect as anyone else.

I may not understand them completely, but its not my place to look down or judge them.

 

[speed dawg]

I may not understand them completely, but its not my place to look down or judge them.

I agree we shouldn't look down on them. They are people just like anyone else. But we all have the right to judge whoever we want. "Judge" is a word that's misused and thrown around. We all judge every day. If I don't like the teachers at a certain school, I'm taking my kid elsewhere, therefore I 'judged' the teacher. H*ll yes I judge, and do it willingly and have that right.

If gays come around me, I likely won't even know it unless they tell me. Unless they are those true flamer types, when, again, I will judge them because they are acting like idiots. I judge them as idiots and choose to go the opposite direction. Nothing wrong with that. They can do the same to me.

It's only when the gays/transgenders/etc. start wanting advantages/handouts/attention, that people start judging them NEGATIVELY. And it's really not about being gay, it's more about being an attention wh*re. Which gets back to what this facebook deal is really all about. So when you seek attention, don't be surprised when you get it.

 

[Colossus]

I got off Farcebook last year and haven't looked back. I think it will basically be defunct by 2017.

Twitter is great as I remain anon and just follow authors and blogs.

 

[Jaylan]

This will be my last reply to you regarding this issue. Because I know better than to get involved in a circular debate with you involving this topic.

I agree we shouldn't look down on them. They are people just like anyone else. But we all have the right to judge whoever we want. "Judge" is a word that's misused and thrown around. We all judge every day. If I don't like the teachers at a certain school, I'm taking my kid elsewhere, therefore I 'judged' the teacher. H*ll yes I judge, and do it willingly and have that right.

How convenient of you now to recognize the right to judge when you are the one doing the judging. Where is your understanding and respect for the right to judge when others pass judgment on various issues? Your tolerance seems pretty low in those cases as we all know.

Judge is misused and thrown around? Hardly. You use the term yourself, and it seems that its only misused and thrown around when it comes to situations where you would like to negatively judge someone without being criticized or judged yourself for it.

If gays come around me, I likely won't even know it unless they tell me. Unless they are those true flamer types, when, again, I will judge them because they are acting like idiots. I judge them as idiots and choose to go the opposite direction. Nothing wrong with that. They can do the same to me.

Ah yes, negative judgments which put others down. How mature. The thing is, Ive known non-straight people who dont fit into "flamer" stereotypes, and they still are treated unfairly and with bias despite wanting to live their lives in peace.

It's only when the gays/transgenders/etc. start wanting advantages/handouts/attention, that people start judging them NEGATIVELY. And it's really not about being gay, it's more about being an attention wh*re. Which gets back to what this facebook deal is really all about. So when you seek attention, don't be surprised when you get it.

I take it you dont have many, (or any), non-straight friends or acquaintances. The reality is that the bulk of these folks arent looking for attention or handouts. They seek equal treatment in society without being looked down up or treated poorly by society's true idiots.

If you dont truly know these people, or havent seen the bias or discrimination some of them face, you cannot really speak on this so called idea about mass attention seeking or handouts. These folks basically want to be able to do all the things straight folks do, without it being a big deal. Its facebook, and not really a big deal anyways. People just want the ability to self identify in ways they deem fit for them socially.

Why are you even giving it attention yourself if you dont want to associate with these people? Just dont care about it. Simple. When I saw the story come up in my facebook feed, I shrugged it off without comment. All it means is that now a whole bunch of people can self-identify the way they want. Its no big deal at all.

 

[speed dawg]

This will be my last reply to you regarding this issue. Because I know better than to get involved in a circular debate with you involving this topic.

Ah yes, the "I know I can't win, so I'll announce that I'm leaving the debate to save face" retort. Predictable.

Ah yes, negative judgments which put others down.

How? I didn't criticize them to their face. Only thoughts inside my own head. I didn't hurt them in the least. Well, I do deprive them of my company I suppose.

I take it you dont have many, (or any), non-straight friends or acquaintances. The reality is that the bulk of these folks arent looking for attention or handouts. They seek equal treatment in society without being looked down up or treated poorly by society's true idiots. If you dont truly know these people, or havent seen the bias or discrimination some of them face, you cannot really speak on this so called idea about mass attention seeking or handouts.

Predictable shaming. But nonetheless, I know some gay people. I've NEVER seen them discriminated against. You could make a case that kids in high school get bullied and all, but in my experience it's never because of race, gender, sexuality, etc. It's ALWAYS about perceived weakness in character. That's what bullies want to exploit more than anything.

These folks basically want to be able to do all the things straight folks do, without it being a big deal. Its facebook, and not really a big deal anyways. People just want the ability to self identify in ways they deem fit for them socially.

They already can and do.

Why are you even giving it attention yourself if you dont want to associate with these people? Just dont care about it. Simple. When I saw the story come up in my facebook feed, I shrugged it off without comment. All it means is that now a whole bunch of people can self-identify the way they want. Its no big deal at all.

More predictable shaming. Move on, nothing to see here.

ETA: Just want the masses to know, that Jaylan did not follow his own advice, but instead of replying to me, he neg-repped me and got his point to me the cowardly way:

Facebook Now Has 50... 02-19-2014 12:21 PM Jaylan the old "i don't like your opinion so I'm just going to call it all shaming" routine. Classic fail lol

Apparently, dude needs a vocabulary lesson so he can learn the difference between a shaming technique and his actual opinion.

 

[HoneyHitter]

This is a list of sexual preferences, not genders. The human specie knows two genders: male and female. No one is born as anything else.

 

[Jaylan]

This is a list of sexual preferences, not genders. The human specie knows two genders: male and female. No one is born as anything else.

Sexual orientation (and preference), is very different from gender self-identification. For example, a Cisgender Female can be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, etc. If you look at the list, these orientations (aka sexual preferences) did not appear in the gender list that the OP provided.

And actually, many people consider sex and gender roles two different things. As in the sexes being male and female, and genders (and their roles) being dependent on the culture.

Native Americans were known to have something called Two Spirits, which combined gender roles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit

The reality is that sexual orientation, gender (and roles), vary across cultures. I accept this and dont really give a damn about peoples personal lives. It is what it is, and I accept folks for who they are. People will identify how they want. But one thing I can say with certainty, is that with the exception of the rare inter-sexed hermaphroditic folks of the world, there exists only two biological sexes.

 

[Warrior74]

We're living in a brave new world system of drugs(prescription and illegal), hedonism and intellectual degeneracy. Yet all the trappings of 1984 on the other hand with the police state, controlled debate/political system and endless war.

Huxley and Orwell were right.

As for Facebook. It owns Instagram and just bought the worlds largest texting and chat app. They will stay solvent through acquisitions. They now have three huge audiences to generate ad revenue through. And as long as they have millions of eyeballs, advertisers like me will pay money to get in front of those eyeballs. The fact that they have an older demographic is a plus not a minus for Facebook. My parents still had their AOL account after all these years because their email was on there. I had to fix that for them. There will be people who will be on FB for 20 years.

Teens do leave Facebook, but older kids come back to it after college. It's become the new Linkedin for younger professionals. Facebook will be around for a while. They are doing the things that Myspace failed to do, which was to expand into new areas for new viewers and more revenue.

 

[JohnChops]

thats funny you mention manufacturing human beings that cant reproduce. this is the basis for a species to be wiped out in evolution. i thought it was an interesting tie in.

and wtf does cis mean, are you an organic molecule floating around in a solution "oh yes i must be cismale"..... duhfuq is wrong with this world.

 

[Jaylan]

Just be non-binary, Gary
Go with genderqueer, Lear
Be a transman, Stan
Call yourself Cis, Chris
Yes there must be 50 Ways To State Your Gender.

That made me lol xD

thats funny you mention manufacturing human beings that cant reproduce. this is the basis for a species to be wiped out in evolution. i thought it was an interesting tie in.

and wtf does cis mean, are you an organic molecule floating around in a solution "oh yes i must be cismale"..... duhfuq is wrong with this world.

Google is your friend. Its easy to understand really. It basically means male and females whos sex matches the traditional assigned gender identification and roles of their culture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

 

[JohnChops]

That made me lol xD
Google is your friend. Its easy to understand really. It basically means male and females whos sex matches the traditional assigned gender identification and roles of their culture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

oh that like when people think they are born in the wrong gender. i gotcha. i learned about that in a few psyc classes, it was interesting but kind of odd.