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[ckdon]

alright bros. i need help. big time.

im good looking. i have a good body, built. amazing hairstyle and style in dressing. these things people have told me constantly so im putting it out there.

BUT

every time i see a hot chick i can't for the life of me go up to her and start a convo. MAJOR CONFIDENCE problem.

not that she wont talk to me, but my PROBLEM IS THIS:

i cant keep a convo running smoothly. like , there are pauses in the damned convo.


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i got this gym class at college. and i first thing I notice when i go in is this HOT FKIN girl planking (abs exercise) in tights with like one of the most beautiful bodies I've seen this year.

she's easily a 9.8 ; white/Caucasion( russian maybe), brunette long silky hair, pink lips, carved face, SMOKING HOT SLIM BODY(!!!!) firm handful tight ass (always in tights), and breasts that can firmly fit in the average man's hands (good sized, not big but not small).

she is very shy and always quiet. always does her workout alone. a number of times a few guys surround her like flies and hit up on her, but because she's shy and quiet they get bored i guess and move away.

but fuk that, I dont care about her personality. I just want her legs spread, but I am willing to be in a relationship too (totally relationship material, SMOKING HOT and very very cute). shes' the type of girl you just CANNOT get bored of slamming every day even. sick physique i tell you, sick. chest, hips, ass, thighs, everything. height's around 5'8" so thats good too.


so, i see her next week again. she's almost always working out alone (almost always her legs and thighs).

WHAT DO I SAY as a conversation starter and how do I keep it flowing? keep the convo short? number close on the first convo?

I was thinking:
me: "hey there "
her: hey
"working out alone?"
"haha yeah"
"so what are you trying to do, get skinnier or make muscle? cause we wouldn't want you to any more skinnier or else you'd become 2D"
"hahha . whatever she says "
"i mean you already look fine, don't think you even need the gym"


ok, maybe not the best convo, which is why i need ur help. we haven't talked yet, HOWEVER she gives me a lot of eye contact and usually always uses machines around me (i.e. follows me at times).

can you fix my planned convo starter or make up one for me? thanks

 

[flashpoint]

you realize you cant plan for peoples reaction to what you say, right?

how about this: what do you want to happen after the conversation? think about it. with a goal in mind you might find it easier to get to the point.

some general remarks:
dont do physical compliments. if she is superhot you need to ignore that. dont be afraid of pauses. pauses are good! you take your time to observe and enjoy. what you actually say is less important than what you communicate.

 

[ckdon]

ok. wont plan the convo. but i gotta at least know how to start the convo off, which is why i have to know whats the slickest way to go off?

im mean its gonna be one on one while working out in a gym, surely there are some generic but amazing tricks here?

 

[flashpoint]

tell her she does her exercise wrong in some way. thats an easy one. then you show her. but be playful about it. great opportunity to tease her. tell her if she keeps doing what she does right now soon she will have a biceps like the hulk but a waist like barbie and unless she goes for grotesque so she can join a circus or something she needs to stop. you going to save her from a bad career choice and looking outright ridiculous. always tease playfully. exaggerate. do it with a smile and she knows.

or when she is at the machine right next to yours you look her in the eyes hold it until opening the mouth comes naturally and tell her that you can smell her. you just want to save her from embarrassment and thats why you tell her. ok that is a big neg and you need to be careful if you cant pull it off. but it can work like a charm. strong emotions are never wrong.

or think ... no dont. just be ready to stay in the situation. you are next to her, you look at her, convo should come naturally. just say what is on your mind in that moment. she is hot, she is beautiful BUT all she wants in the end of the day is to be bent over. keep that in mind. you are the man to do that. i know you want and that you want is equal to that you can.

and here once again some inspiration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhmcJ7Zg5ko

get that into your head!

 

[sylvester the cat]

'Can't' is a word that needs to be eradicated from your dictionary.

 

[TheWolfMan]

Is she in your college class or is she at the gym just working out? If she is just there then it will play to your benefit. I agree with most of the advice here, but If I were you I'd wait until she's done working out or wait till the end of the class and avoid her body or level of fitness as the topic of conversation as to avoid coming across as creepy. Just play it casually, "Hey HB 9, you seem to be here whenever I am, you're not stalking me are you?". Ask about school, what year she's in, what major she's studying, etc. Try to relate to what she's saying, then go for the kill "Well listen, we should chill sometime. You got a number or am i going to have to send a carrier pidgeon?" Something along those line, there's tons of ideas for small talk at college. Remember she'll give you a certain level of respect for even approaching her, and if she's not feeling it then don't lose your head over it. She's hot, so most guys are too intimidated to even talk to her. You gotta be that guy, separate yourself from the herd if you want a shot at the goods. Pun intended. Wolfman out.

 

[ckdon]

Is she in your college class or is she at the gym just working out? If she is just there then it will play to your benefit. I agree with most of the advice here, but If I were you I'd wait until she's done working out or wait till the end of the class and avoid her body or level of fitness as the topic of conversation as to avoid coming across as creepy. Just play it casually, "Hey HB 9, you seem to be here whenever I am, you're not stalking me are you?". Ask about school, what year she's in, what major she's studying, etc. Try to relate to what she's saying, then go for the kill "Well listen, we should chill sometime. You got a number or am i going to have to send a carrier pidgeon?" Something along those line, there's tons of ideas for small talk at college. Remember she'll give you a certain level of respect for even approaching her, and if she's not feeling it then don't lose your head over it. She's hot, so most guys are too intimidated to even talk to her. You gotta be that guy, separate yourself from the herd if you want a shot at the goods. Pun intended. Wolfman out.

she's in my college gym class. the whole class has about 25 students, i think around 20 guys and 5 girls. and she is the hottest of them all.

problem arised. there's this one guy getting pretty comfortable with her. im gonna have to beat him at this game.


as for saving the convo for after class, tough call on that one because in the last 15 mins of class anyone is allowed to leave. she leaves randomly no fixed time and if i follow her wouldn't it look a little desperate or im stalking her? like i suddenly stop my workout and leave the room because she's leaving?

 

[ckdon]

tell her she does her exercise wrong in some way. thats an easy one. then you show her. but be playful about it. great opportunity to tease her. tell her if she keeps doing what she does right now soon she will have a biceps like the hulk but a waist like barbie and unless she goes for grotesque so she can join a circus or something she needs to stop. you going to save her from a bad career choice and looking outright ridiculous. always tease playfully. exaggerate. do it with a smile and she knows.

or when she is at the machine right next to yours you look her in the eyes hold it until opening the mouth comes naturally and tell her that you can smell her. you just want to save her from embarrassment and thats why you tell her. ok that is a big neg and you need to be careful if you cant pull it off. but it can work like a charm. strong emotions are never wrong.

or think ... no dont. just be ready to stay in the situation. you are next to her, you look at her, convo should come naturally. just say what is on your mind in that moment. she is hot, she is beautiful BUT all she wants in the end of the day is to be bent over. keep that in mind. you are the man to do that. i know you want and that you want is equal to that you can.

and here once again some inspiration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhmcJ7Zg5ko

get that into your head!

telloing her she's doing the exercise wrong is a good one, but the problem is she almost always knows what she's doing LOL. (overheard her say she has a gym at home). so thats gonna be near impossible to bring up man.

as for the smell idea, i know im gonna screw that up and come off as rude or something so i dont want to risk it.

good advice though, if any more ideas i'll appreciate it

 

[Greasy Pig]

Sounds like your pedestalising her already. Now, anything you try will almost inevitably come across as AFC.
You have to get it into your head that she should be grateful that you speak to her. If you engage her, do it confidently and try to give the aura that you consider her a HB5 at best. Treat her like your annoying little sister and keep the initial interaction brief but funny.
Comment on your surroundings, make a joke about the dudes working out in front of the mirror, tell her next time you see her you'll show her what she's doing wrong on the machine, smile and have a twinkle in your eye and then walk.
She'll say "what am I doing wrong?", you say, "I've got to go look at a property I'm thinking of buying but ill definitely show you next time."

EDIT: Just saw your post OP. if she knows what she's doing, maybe flip the script and say you think you're using the machine wrongly.
"It's hard to be good looking and know everything about how to use gym equipment..."

 

[ckdon]

Sounds like your pedestalising her already. Now, anything you try will almost inevitably come across as AFC.
You have to get it into your head that she should be grateful that you speak to her. If you engage her, do it confidently and try to give the aura that you consider her a HB5 at best. Treat her like your annoying little sister and keep the initial interaction brief but funny.
Comment on your surroundings, make a joke about the dudes working out in front of the mirror, tell her next time you see her you'll show her what she's doing wrong on the machine, smile and have a twinkle in your eye and then walk.
She'll say "what am I doing wrong?", you say, "I've got to go look at a property I'm thinking of buying but ill definitely show you next time."

not at all my man. I'm ADMITTING she is hot, but I'm not showing it to her AT ALL. in fact, I'm ignoring her in the gym and I have HER chasing me in a way (because she's always looking for eye contact, always comes stands around me, uses machines around me, etc. i can literally sense her wanting me to talk).

see, i know she is hot. i know what i want (ultimately, spread her and slam her with every ounce of my strength). but so far, I've easily created the effect where she chases me by checking her out/eye contact on the first day, but on days 2 and 3 totally ignoring her.

because of that, she's now thinking "did i do something? he was looking totally into me on the first day and now he's not even looking at me" and she wants to find out what happened. im sure of that.

the problem is finding a good convo starter. I know you guys do your best to help each other, but so far I haven't gotten anything that will start a real good convo without it sounding forced or obvious.

i mean, it is a hard place to start it, a gym.

 

[Slickster]

I can't see you having much success based on your original post.

You are obsessed with her beauty and "don't care about her personality". Your sample conversation is about her looks.

Hmmm... Something tells me you aren't going to have much to talk about.

I guarantee that chick gets chatted up by 10 guys every day who are smooth as can be. At this point she's had 1000's of guys compliment her on her looks.

Ask yourself what makes you an interesting person? Then think about what might make her an interesting person. If all you can come up with is physical stuff then guess what? You are really boring!

If there are some interesting things about yourself,then you can use those things to fill in the blank spots in your conversations. Your goal should be to find out what makes her interesting. People like to talk about themselves and asking open ended questions to get that info is how you converse. Listening is more important than speaking in most cases.

Seeing that it is a gym class you may open the convo with a question about the form she's using during one of her exercises. Be genuine about it, have a quick back and forth and maybe make a comment about how that exercise helps/hurts when you do _________. (Ie. I hurt my back playing B-ball once and I find that exercise helps.) Then exchange names. After that say thanks nice meeting you and walk away. She's in your class and will be there all semester. The first convo only needs to be an ice breaker and by ejecting early you separate yourself from every other chump who hits on her. If you are as good looking as you say she WILL notice how different you are/were. Repeat this process a couple times. Each time reveal a little about yourself and try to get her to do the same. What makes her interesting? Completely ignore the fact that she is hot.

Don't worry about having a long successful conversation at first. Just focus on a brief exchange where you find something out about each other. You can build on these things as time goes on.
Eventually you will have rapport with her and that is when you ask her out.