F***ing Alphas Part Two

[Slick Rick-NZ]

Hypothetical situation.

1. You are out with your girlfreind talking with a small group of people, a loud obnoxious guy with big muscles approaches and tries to enter conversation.
He then turns his atttention to your missus and she is flattered but doesn't have the balls to explain she is with you.

What would you do and say?

2. You are talking in a small group of women and there is one girl you have your eye on. Fact she is single. A similar guy approches, good looking in shape and strikes up conversation with this lady you fancy. You have todo something fast as she is loosing interest in you as he has turned her towards him.

What would you do and say?

3. You are chatting in a group of mates or not so close mates, and one of them squares you out of the conversation by standing infront of you.

What would you do and say?

These guys may or may not be alphas, so don't dwell on that argument.
Only refer what you would do yourself or would want to do in theory.
I have only been boxed out of a conversation before by my mate none others.
Please refer to each situation you are talking about.
I look forward to hearing your suggestions.
Slick..

 

[MurdocIsGod]

Hypothetical situation.

1. You are out with your girlfreind talking with a small group of people, a loud obnoxious guy with big muscles approaches and tries to enter conversation.
He then turns his atttention to your missus and she is flattered but doesn't have the balls to explain she is with you.

What would you do and say?

Nothing, I wouldn't feel it was a threat. If I did for some reason, I'd just lead her away to somewhere else.

2. You are talking in a small group of women and there is one girl you have your eye on. Fact she is single. A similar guy approches, good looking in shape and strikes up conversation with this lady you fancy. You have todo something fast as she is loosing interest in you as he has turned her towards him.

What would you do and say?

Lead her away to somewhere else.

3. You are chatting in a group of mates or not so close mates, and one of them squares you out of the conversation by standing infront of you.

What would you do and say?

I don't actually know to be honest... Probably say something funny about it.

These aren't my suggestions by the way, just answering honestly what I'd do...

 

[Iceberg]

These aren't my suggestions by the way, just answering honestly what I'd do...

Agree with Murdoc.

1. Unless he's grabbing my girl's t1ts, there's not much to say. Sometimes I might unknowingly flirt with a dude's girlfriend. I'm not a bad person. Maybe I just didn't know. Take your girl to another area, or just but into the conversation and box the dude out. He'll get the hint...

2. As Murdoc said, isolate the girl. If you're in a bar, tell her it's too loud, and take her to the other side of the bar. Or better yet, if there are other bars around, take her to a bar next door.

3. This scenario is just too specific. The way I'm envisioning it, this just sounds like someone accidentally stood in front of me.

 

[Sparky]

Might I add to your list as it was a question I've always been curious about anyway?

The person who puts you down in public. You are talking privately with them and say something a bit silly by mistake. He turns to the room and says "Oi everyone, guess what *Insert your name here* just said?" in an attempt to publicly lower your credibility. This can also be a tactic by them to destroy your credibility with a woman you are competing for.

What is a slang nickname for this kind of person, and bearing in mind we can't go round puching people in the kidneys, what would you do about it?

Do you mind me adding that to the list?

In answer to your original question I agree with MurdocIsGod, assuming a punch to the kidneys is not a viable alternative.

 

[Chamber36]

once i was on a type of blind date showing a chick around. We were having drinks and this giant jamaican guy interrupts and says he had a cousin that looked just like the girl, and he was wondering if that might have been her, but it wasn't her. He then introduced himself to us. I didn't really acknowledge or agree with any of his statements, so i didn't buy into his frame. He mentioned that he was going to the chiropractor to see if his spine was in order, cuz he was hitting the gym so hard, apparently. Dude was talking about his posture and i was like: nice man, nice man. I was genuinely impressed cuz he obviously had worked hard for his body. So when i was like: yueahhhhhh nice..... I guess i blew the wind out from under his wings(maybe they didn't know if I was being sarcastic or not). I'm the type of guy who can show appreciation for any type of physical accomplishment, whether it's hurdle jumping, swimming, rock climbing, whatever.

So the dude realised i wasn't really buying into his frame, and he just wished us a nice day and went off. The girl was like: Awesome!! I was a little uneasy about the whole thing though. Even though i barely knew the chick i didn't like the dude interrupting at all. It was an incredibly cool chick too.

Another time, a few weeks ago, i was chilling with some guys and girls. This english guy whose nose was flat from all the boxing he did all his life just hijacked the entire set.
This time it was my respect for talent that screwed me over. The guy was talking about some type of philosofical idea that i agreed with, and once i agreed with him all the girls accepted him and I was blown out of hte set. He started showing one of the girls some martial arts and nobody was minding me.

 

[Warrior74]

I am the nicest azzhole you have ever seen outside of bleached bottoms in porn.

1. You are out with your girlfreind talking with a small group of people, a loud obnoxious guy with big muscles approaches and tries to enter conversation.
He then turns his atttention to your missus and she is flattered but doesn't have the balls to explain she is with you.

What would you do and say?

I was out the other night with a bartender friend of mine. She kinda looks like christina hendrix from mad men. She was **** faced so we went to play pool at her bar. Some ghetto dude tries to hug up on her and I could tell she wasn't feeling him. He was the loudest guy in the bar, talking big talk about having money and hos. When he thought I wasn't listening I heard him say to his boys "Bartender chic is drunk as hell, Imma **** that ho tonight". I went to the bar and ordered our drinks and when I came back he was smiling in her face and trying to get her to dance.

When I walked up he tried to dismissively nod to me and kept talking to her. I asked him who he was, and how he knew her. He tried to down play it saying they were old friends. I asked him what he did for a living and then just started having a conversation with him. (of course he didn't have a job, big surprise) I refused to let him talk to her basically, he finally just said, "oh I just came to say hi, I'll holla at you later girl". I shot back with a "no man join us, its cool" hahaha. After he left she said "thanks, I thought he would never leave, I can't believe you asked him to join us". He then could be heard two pool tables over talking loudly about how 'he hates weak dudes with no game' and how he's got all the money and can pull all the hos. I just laughed cause I knew and he knew that he lost that round. He couldn't come up to my level and he knew I wasn't coming down to his.

2. You are talking in a small group of women and there is one girl you have your eye on. Fact she is single. A similar guy approches, good looking in shape and strikes up conversation with this lady you fancy. You have todo something fast as she is loosing interest in you as he has turned her towards him.

What would you do and say?

Go big or go home. Hey HB, can I talk to you for a moment and lead her a way, or join a different group of girls and see if she's looking or not. If not, leave it.

3. You are chatting in a group of mates or not so close mates, and one of them squares you out of the conversation by standing infront of you.

What would you do and say?

Depends on the guy. If I like him, I'd be all, Hey bytch, get out my way'. If I can't stand him, I'd say, "Look at this guy, invisible man over here! Dude I'm standing here" and push him outta my way with a smirk. Fvck that guy. I'm a cvnt and I know it.

 

[Strelok]

Sometimes your posts and comments leave me speechless, you all talk about fact and obvious provocations then exclude violence as a responce because it's better to stay cool.

I wonder what the hell does it takes to get pissed off and hurt someone, tolerance toward these male b1tches is no different that tolerance toward female b1tches, you just all reinforce their attitude.

Stuff like that never happened to me but if a guy come a try hit on my girls in front of me I would wait for him to go to the toilet and smash his head on the wall, not because he is trying to steal "my princess" but because he is coming in my yard pissing on it and implicitly telling me that he considers me his b1tch.

I think most of you guys are afraid of the law and that sounds reasonable hwoever most of you just got brainwashed into think that you have to get it cause violence is wrong no matter what.
Being nice and peaceful is the way to go, but for fk sake some times do a favor to yourself and to someone coming after you, educate some a$$hole.

 

[BettorOffSingle]

1. You are out with your girlfreind talking with a small group of people, a loud obnoxious guy with big muscles approaches and tries to enter conversation. He then turns his atttention to your missus and she is flattered but doesn't have the balls to explain she is with you.

This is where “reluctant pua” game following the VCABM helped me a lot. With the OTL (see my book), I would have just sat back, watched her blow him out, then been ready with a critique after the fact. With Kate, I wouldn’t have to have critiqued her, because she would take care of any guy like that on her own. With anyone else, they weren’t Kate, so I didn’t give a damn who they were.

In fact, in my book, I write about February 12, 1994 (a Saturday), when these two AMOGs sit down at my table as I’m completely charming an HB8.9 and an SHB9.9. They pretend to be my friends and all, but it’s obvious they’re AMOGing. I leave it to the women to kick them out of the table, they don’t, so I just LEAVE. Why? They weren’t Kate, so I didn’t care. They were replacable. With the other two Aces, SHBDancer or Le Club, I was always in isolation with them so this never came up. It’s another reason I can’t stand bars.
Really, your best bet is to leave the set with their “new friends.” Though in college, with “PG-3” (Phantom Girlfriend III), this neighbor of hers interrupted me when we were having pizza, totally dominating the conversation. It was obvious he was into her, but not her into him. I just let him flame out until he had nothing left, and he never interfered with us again.

2. You are talking in a small group of women and there is one girl you have your eye on. Fact she is single. A similar guy approches, good looking in shape and strikes up conversation with this lady you fancy. You have todo something fast as she is loosing interest in you as he has turned her towards him.

If it’s anyone but the OTL or Kate, I walk. If it’s those two, I don’t have to. Kate was particularly great at punishing AMOGs, as she never let any man score points with her at another man’s expense. This is another trait unique to super-elites, because they see ALL men as beneath them. No winners vs. losers in their book. With Le Club, the attraction was too strong, and with the other ace, as with Le Club, we were always in isolation.
You don’t have to do ANYTHING here. Just WALK, leave her with the other guy, which puts the burden on him to win her over (he usually won’t), and she’ll feel like he cost her YOU. “Bet the prize” ring a bell?

3. You are chatting in a group of mates or not so close mates, and one of them squares you out of the conversation by standing infront of you.

Tell the guy “Excuse me, I was just leaving, and wanted to say goodbye to (the chick).” Then do it. If the chick wants you, she’ll dust off the obstacle.
This is another advantage of the “friend zone,” btw. No woman is going to blow a solid LJBF for a few minutes of attention from a guy she doesn’t want long-term. Even if she DOES want him, and you clear a path for him, she’s likely to return the favor for you next time out. The ONLY problem with the friendzone is if you let it stop you from pursuing other chicks.

The person who puts you down in public. You are talking privately with them and say something a bit silly by mistake. He turns to the room and says "Oi everyone, guess what *Insert your name here* just said?" in an attempt to publicly lower your credibility. This can also be a tactic by them to destroy your credibility with a woman you are competing for.

Don’t compete. If he does this, give a “WTF” look to the chicks, like you can’t believe they’d hang with such a tool, then walk. Better idea: operate in isolation to begin with. I must say, however, most of my “AMOGs” have been other WOMEN, not men. Usually unattractive ones who wanted me that I didn’t want. One actually interfered with several of my hookups, but she never succeeded. She even told one “you DO know what he wants, right?” Duh! Of course she did!

What is a slang nickname for this kind of person, and bearing in mind we can't go round puching people in the kidneys, what would you do about it?

It’s called AMOGing, and it’s annoying. Conflict is not worth it, however, and if you are with a super-elite, SHE will take care of business for you, since she won’t want to scare you off.

 

[Ease]

1. You are out with your girlfreind talking with a small group of people, a loud obnoxious guy with big muscles approaches and tries to enter conversation.
He then turns his atttention to your missus and she is flattered but doesn't have the balls to explain she is with you.

What would you do and say?

This guy is assuming you are a chump and stepping on you as he interrupts your conversation. But he is still nervous and curious about your reaction, a man doesnt truly know the status of another man until he gets a sign of strength or weakness.

Id simply stare at him in a strange way until he explained himself. If he tries to ignore me and talks to the girl, id interrupt with 'Are you alright buddy, hows it going?' and not allow him to speak to the girl and make me look like a chump. After i say that he will either try to speak up to me and be friendly, or things will get awkward and he will one way or another eject.

He is bold for doing that, but I will assume he made a mistake and didnt know who he was interrupting. Anything else and he is either just looking for a fight or too drunk to understand.


Any other response to this, especially doing nothing, is a classic chump move and very basic mistake. Only a faggot would let himself be made to look like such a kid.

Hypothetical situation.

2. You are talking in a small group of women and there is one girl you have your eye on. Fact she is single. A similar guy approches, good looking in shape and strikes up conversation with this lady you fancy. You have todo something fast as she is loosing interest in you as he has turned her towards him.

What would you do and say?

This is tough because all is fair in this game. Personally i dont respond well to these situations unless i know i have the girl already hooked in. Any moment i suspect that the girl is more interested in the other guy I lose my psych and let it go. This is my vice, ask someone else.


For the 3rd question, exact same as the 1st situation. The guy is assuming you are a chump, speak up and show him otherwise. 'Hey buddy, are you alright, let me in here' with a nice hand on his shoulder.

 

[Slick Rick-NZ]

Might I add to your list as it was a question I've always been curious about anyway?

The person who puts you down in public. You are talking privately with them and say something a bit silly by mistake. He turns to the room and says "Oi everyone, guess what *Insert your name here* just said?" in an attempt to publicly lower your credibility. This can also be a tactic by them to destroy your credibility with a woman you are competing for.

What is a slang nickname for this kind of person, and bearing in mind we can't go round puching people in the kidneys, what would you do about it?

Do you mind me adding that to the list?

In answer to your original question I agree with MurdocIsGod, assuming a punch to the kidneys is not a viable alternative.

Haha like your style. Cannot think of the name apart from dooshe bag atm haha. These people are trying to lower your value in order to make thiers look higher than yours. They are normally needy ect. Also their are the ones that are like oh did you hear what (so ans so) said they said that....they repeat things for a laugh repeating other peoples jokes to make others laugh. Also say did you see what he she did.

Just a funny story from last night for everyone. I was walking through a packed crowd at the club and this HB was grinding on me accidentely and her bf awkwardley tapped her on the shoulder and was like i over here wat u doing?
hahah

Thanks for your input everyone well appreciated.
Slick..