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zekko

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I've been reading some things about eye contact on here lately. I think this is a good example of how the advice on this forum is all over the place, really. I've read all of the following bits on here:

You should maintain eye contact like a laser beam with women.

An alpha makes eye contact with every woman he meets.

It is alpha to make eye contact with everyone you meet, and make them look away first (a sign of submission).

You should make eye contact with a woman, but no more than two or three seconds. Any longer is creepy.

You should make eye contact with a woman and smile.

You should not smile at a woman. Studies show that even a man who looks ashamed rate as more desireable than a man who is smiling. Smiling sends the message that you are not a threat, it is a beta act.

And from the recent "Ignore" thread: You should not make eye contact at all with a woman (unless you are talking to her). In fact, you shouldn't even look at her.


For my part, I've had some success with confident, lingering eye contact, and with eye contact and smiling.
 

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I think the varying eye contact advice differs from what's going on. Eye contact during a conversation as opposed to just locking eyes from across the room is different. Take heed and apply situationally.
 

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Yeah lots of conflicting advice on this one. I'll give my $0.02.

1. Don't gawk or stare at women. This is most important.

2. If you make eye contact, look away to the side. Looking down is submission which is bad if you do it.

3. After that eye contact either approach her now or approach her later or just leave her alone and keep walking. Remember #1.

4. Take note of her type of eye contact with you.
A) Avoids eye contact with you -- probably not interested
B) Looks up -- not interested
C) Looks up AND eye roll -- Soo not interested and a rude $&@$&
D) Looks down -- Submission probably ok interest
E) Locks eyes with you briefly --- probably interested
F) Stares at you --- strong interest. Post your lay report later lol
 

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In my experience, eye contact and a nice genuine smile always works best. If you have nice teeth, show them off. Do this for a few seconds then look away.
 

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5. A slight grin might be less needy than a smile. Don't get me wrong, a smile is great if she's quite interested in you. But otherwise I play it safe and don't smile much.

6. I don't necessarily believe in the "hold eye contact until she looks away." I mean it's ok if she looks away quickly. But otherwise, I don't want a game of chicken lol. A look and slight flirty grin is fine. You don't need to stare her down.

7. Finally, notwithstanding, I kind of agree with the "Ignore" camp. Don't bother with any eye contact stuff at all UNLESS she passes you direct line of sight or you are approaching.

Now that I thoroughly confused everybody, I'll shut up lol. I never said this one was simple.
 

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if the chemistry is good and you're on a date, gaze in to her left eye then stop when she looks away.

Do this a few times throughout the date. It really turns them on. (at least it works for me)
 

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Good post zekko.

I say to make eye contact at all times with women. You can get a "feel" for them by watching them react either with their own eye contact and/or body language. As the say, watch and learn. If you don't watch, you ain't gonna learn.

IMO, you literally own someone if you maintain eye contact and they don't. I'm not talking about the "stink eye" here but when you converse with someone, look at them when you are doing it.
 

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People are getting too cute for their own good.

Eye contact is ALWAYS good, no matter what. Without it you aren't trustworthy or just not worthy.
 
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pdx1138 said:
if the chemistry is good and you're on a date, gaze in to her left eye then stop when she looks away.

Do this a few times throughout the date. It really turns them on. (at least it works for me)
Well fvck me, I've been staring at the right eye this whole time. The left hemisphere triggers her emotion, makes sense.

Strong eye contact is a very good indicator of interest. If the pupils are well dilated, I'd use some soft kino while still maintaining it.
 

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Eye contact is one of those "one size fits all rules" people try to come up with on forums to show how "alpha" they are.

Every situation is different. Bottom line: Do what you want, how you want, without excuses, and let other people respond however they want.

You may be following some kind of "I need to make hard eye contact until she looks away rule," but then you come across some HB 9.5 who's in a rush to find a toilet before she craps her pants.

Sometimes I enjoy looking at HB's simply because I enjoy looking at them. I could care less how they respond to me.

Other times, it's fun to flirt. Eye contact, no smile, take a couple seconds enjoying their body, then eye contact, smile, with quickly raised eyebrows.

Some girls dig this, some run for the hills.

The second you try and modify your behavior based on how you think/hope/wish she'll respond, you're done.

Who cares.
 
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When speaking to women, I seem to have more success when NOT maintaining eye contact. I naturally want to stare them in the eye, but when I do it's like I'm hanging on their every word. Much better to look around and seem like I have better **** to do. Just don't overdo it.
 
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Ahh eye contact attraction. I've learned a K.I.S.S. rule to it: It's all about escalation.

Of course you want to make initial eye contact when you see a woman to make sure she is even interested in what she sees. I learned that holding that initial first eye contact is crucial. If she quickly looks away after seeing you like you are just in the way, then keep it moving.

Now if you can get her to "lock in" with you, where you catch eyes with each other and it feels a bit awkward holding the eye contact, it feels like 15 to 30 seconds go by between when the girl finally breaks eye contact. It feels uncomfortable and a bit nervewracking when you first start trying it... Get use to that tension ya big dummy because if you are feeling it then she sure as fyuck feeling it too. Once you come to terms with how much sexual tension goes into initial eye contact and how you can instantly read attraction levels from it you may have to start holding back at times. Just today there was this woman with two yelping kids who I could feel was staring at the side of my face. I just grabbed my oatmeal and got the hell on because I knew that in the time it would of took me to analyze her, she would start lusting in the breakfast aisle (no bullshyte :D ).

Oh yeah and please practice smiling. It's much more effective than a sexual glare looking "hard" to women. Smiling makes a woman feel more comfortable, and helps relieve anxiety in your everyday life http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/248433.php. Practice smiling in front of a mirror, listen to your favorite comedian/watch sitcoms before you go out, do Yoga, tell yourself you got a huge cawk when you actually have a thin chode that bends sideways whatever puts you in a consistent good mood. Until smiling feels natural and reactionary.

Then it gets real simple. When you eventually start a conversation just keep this thought in mind "I wonder how would it feel like fyucking her?" sounds crazy? Yes I am! Here's why it works, she doesn't know what exactly what you are thinking about. You can be talking to her about who's in the playoffs, but your eyes are saying "I want to mount you like a lion in mating season". The dichotomy between what you are saying and how you are behaving (being civil and social) meshes with the underlying message told with your confident eyes and vivid unseen imagination (primal lust, intrigue) to totally draw in the woman as she is getting mixed signals from you.

She knows you are interested in her since you held sexy tense eye contact earlier and are talking to her now, but in which way are you interested. Will she feel desire and interest in you? Yes! Will she want to dig deeper? Signs are positive? Will she get lost in your eyes? Probably ya big dummy.

From there don't be afraid to look at whatever catches your attention. If someone is really loud to your left THEN OBSERVE TO YOUR LEFT. Maybe there is something happening over there youcan use to continue the conversation. She says something about her appearance I'd say draw attention to it. If she talks about how she doesn't really like her booty, you grab her by the hand and spin her around to look at it. BE A MAN and check her out without fear!

If a woman says something stupid during conversation (**** tests, tries to insult you) start to break eye contact, and withdraw. This is a demonstration of DHV which blah blah fyucking blah. She says something you don't like you express your dislike of her opinion by breaking eye contact and withdrawing, she will try desperately to regain that attention you have been giving her if the conversation has been escalating sexually between you two already. Don't pout or show anger just smile/laugh it off and withdraw. She will try to win you back however necessary and quickly.

This is an advanced trick I learned specifically for intimate moments: When the sexual escalation feels high and she is giving you the bedroom eyes, as you get closer try to get the eye contact locked on and whisper in her ears. Most guys will try to talk in a girl's ear but when they do it they will look off to her side when doing it or behind her head. It's a natural reaction. Instead put a hand on her arm/shoulder/on her hand, lower back, or my personal favorite lightly around the neck. The thumb and palm just grazing the side of her neck and your fingers slightly mingled in the hair on the back of her neck and barely touching her skin. When you whisper (or talk if you are in a louder atmosphere) in her ear obviously you can't look her in the eyes, but whenever you aren't whispering in her ear you hold eye contact. She will be totally invested in you and it prevents her from feeling like looking around for anything more interesting. Again for this to work you and the girl should be flirting and she should be showing some sexual interest before you try it.

Also being that close and sharing sexy eye contact with a woman you should learn to look out for her pupils dilating. When something mentally or physically stimulates people it cause their pupils to expand (the opposite happens when a person loses interest). You can tell if you said something that moistened her walls a bit right after you said it when as you two are getting more intimate you can see her pupils quickly expand go back to normal like little bombs going off in her eyes. I dated one girl with rather large anime-like eyes who whenever I grabbed her and said something sexy to her she would look me in the eyes and I'd see her little pupils pop. It was so fyucking sexy cause I know she was drenching her panties at that very moment.

So there you go. The K.I.S.S. of eye contact escalation.

1) Initial eye contact is your best opener. If she glances and immediately looks away,keep moving. If she locks in with you hold eye contact until the sexual tension causes her to look away. Any woman that tries to hold eye contact with you is just as interested as you are. You are free to approach

2) Don't forget to smile. It eases her defenses, and it makes you feel good. Plus if you smile initially she will mirror your smile making you both feel more comfortable.

3) When talking to her imagine how it would be like fyucking her during convo. This tricks your unconscious mind and body to initiate a more sexual attitude which the girl will pickup on unconsciously yet your lighthearted conversation won't set off any bicth shields and cause her to close up on you.

4) Don't be afraid to observe your surroundings if something else grabs your attention or if you are in need of a new topic of discussion. Also don't be afraid to observe and comment on anything you see about her, especially if she draws attention to her physical features or body language.

5) She says something you don't like or agree with during conversation withdrawing eye contact and body language is power. Actions louder than words. She will want that attention and sexual tension you were giving her back so let her work for it. Don't withdraw like a bratty toddler, just laugh it off as amusing but beneath you because it's just a lame shyt test.

6) The conversation gets more flirty, intimate and intense get in close and break eye contact very little. This doesn't mean give an intense stare, just look at her while thinking of how you wish to bang her. Your face will do the rest trust me.

I had no intention of going into this kind of depth, then before I knew it two hours had passed. I really need to sleep :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: .............Game on .
 
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