Excessive Wealth and Being Famous is what really pulls the Chicks

[BigFoot]

"Any rich man can find a trophy wife, but if you'll find it is the physical and personal characteristics of a man that get him a girl that actually loves him."
I agree with Blueguy. And I would add, based on my vast experience , that it's mainly appearance (good looks mostly) that attract women initially. Without that your personality hardly matters. All the Dave DeAngelo ad nauseum advice does is make guys believe they can succeed by just following some formula or techniques that you buy from him.
It's also very hard to change certain ingrained habits or traits that you have learned that may be turning women off, so once again, all the advice isn't going to help much.

 

[The Juan and only]

KoalaKing, kindly do some relevant reading (dj bible) before you post again.

So many one-track theorists, so many pointless arguments, and so very many blind followers.

you are a smart guy, and yes, everyone knows that status will help you. But why does that mean you shouldn't work on your personality?

I mean all these fools/trolls on here nowadays..I really don't understand your angle. "Looks are very important", "status is very important". SO? that doesnt mean you shouldn't work on your personality, and it doesnt make the majority of the bible wrong.

ffs.


p.s I am not saying I agree with most of that. personality is a massive factor. end of.

 

[Remulak]

Yea if you have money and and astronomical social status like donald trump or brad pitt you can get any woman you want.....so what? So everyone should just say oh well I'm never going to be that rich or that famous so I might as well stop improving myself and becoming better? Quit being so pessimistic...

 

[KoalaKing]

Yea if you have money and and astronomical social status like donald trump or brad pitt you can get any woman you want.....so what? So everyone should just say oh well I'm never going to be that rich or that famous so I might as well stop improving myself and becoming better? Quit being so pessimistic...

It isn't pessimism or negativity, it is reality, I realize that an average Joe can improve on his status and levels of success with attractive woman, but at the same time any guy who can attain a celebrity type status is going to be of a much higher value than any guy whose game is tight yet doesn't have that status.

For some reason famous guys seem to have more of an impact on the girls than famous woman do on the guys.

Most men would place physical beauty and personality of a girl over fame and wealth, but girls are very different.

I don't deny that psychology and techniques can greatly improve an average Joe's success ratings with attractive woman, I am just saying here that the greatest psychological advantage when it comes to the alluring of attractive woman comes via fame wealth and success.

Any guy who is continuously in the limelight, appears on tv sets around the world on a regular basis and on movie screens around the world has a huge advantage over the guys who are not in that predicament.

I myself don't judge people by their status, I just like to be with a pretty girl whose company I can enjoy, but girls veiw this a lot differently.

I don't veiw, Donald Trump, or, Brad Pitt, as being so much better than me, yet most attractive woman would prefer them over me mainly because of their status and the fact that I am not regarded as being anything special in the world wide media.

Even if I at 38 began to appear as a hero in blockbuster movies at this age my status would still go through the roof and thousands of pretty girls who didn't even know me would all of a sudden desire me, and the same thing would happen to you as well and every other guy.

The former USA tennis star, Jim Courier, stated that he automatically become a hunk as soon as he reached the US Open Final, but before that when he was a kid at high school no pretty girls wanted to go out with him.

Elvis Presley, was the same, he had his pick of the most beautiful girls as soon as he become the King of Rock, yet he wasn't very popular with the pretty girls whom he attended high school with.

There are so many examples of this that only a fool could deny that having a celebrity status just makes it so much easier for any type of guy to pull in the hottest chicks.

Self Improvement as I see it is extremely important, I have read many of the PUA communities e-books, such as, John Alexander's - How To Be An AlphaMale, and, David DeAngelo's - Double Your Dating, and many other similar titles.

These e-books have some great information in them, I'm not saying that they won't help, because they will if you apply their techniques, I'm just stating here that the highest value males are those celebrities who are known world wide. :yes:

 

[blueguy]

The former USA tennis star, Jim Courier, stated that he automatically become a hunk as soon as he reached the US Open Final, but before that when he was a kid at high school no pretty girls wanted to go out with him.

Elvis Presley, was the same, he had his pick of the most beautiful girls as soon as he become the King of Rock, yet he wasn't very popular with the pretty girls whom he attended high school with.

There are so many examples of this that only a fool could deny that having a celebrity status just makes it so much easier for any type of guy to pull in the hottest chicks.

See dude, what we're trying to say here is that it's the attitude and passion behind the man that gets him the girls. Elvis Presley and Jim Courier are good examples of this since they were in front of the world doing exciting things. You can be passionate about something and if girls see it, they want you. You can do that in your own home town, school, neighborhood, etc. Just do what you are passionate about and socialize, and people are attracted to you. If more people see the excitement, then you attract more people.

It's not the fame and money though. Those are static variables that play no factor in the actual attraction process. Saddam Hussein is one of the most famous people on earth and very rich, yet he has lost all passion. He is now a dud. Do you see girls going crazy over him?

 

[The Juan and only]

^ yes.

These celebrities have already proved themselves worthy males and therefore..dont have to do as much work to have women all over them.

A guy with skills and passion can achieve the same, he just has to show the girl he has it....rather than allowing the mass media to do it for him.

I am not denying that fame is a big turn on, but I don't think it has quite so much effect as you claim; and I don't think the "fame" itself is necessarily the root cause of the attraction.

Plus, I stick to my original point. Just because we may think looks and fame are extremely important -- that does not mean we shouldn't continue to work on our personality/DJ paradigm.

 

[KoalaKing]

Sadam Hussein, has had all of his power taken away from him, now he is a war criminal he doesn't exert the same confidence that he once did, so woman wouldn't be attracted to him anymore, he looks like a beaten man.

Success breeds confidence I guess, we all veiw ourselves through the eyes of the other people who know us.

I can remember watching a tv show a few years ago titled "Saved By The Bell", which was set in a high school and the main character in the show was a confident handsome young 16 or 17 year old guy who was popular with everyone else on the show, this obviously would make him feel great within himself and because everyone else had placed him on a pedestal the majority of the hottest babes desired to be with him.

I tend to think that DJ'ism and AFC'ism begins at a very young age, it depends a lot on your successes as a young child.

If an AFC teenager can become a success above most other guys who beforehand were more successful with woman than they were, it dramatically changes them into DJ's once everyone begins to praise them on their new found success. :yes:

 

[Primo]

The difference of DJ to Brad Pitt is...

Brad Pitt is being filmed while DJ's are not.

Being a DJ means being happy and successfull in life.
is it being successfull means being rich? well i can say sort off
but its more appropriate to say that to besuccessful is to be happy...

 

[530dj]

realllly everyone knows this you cant argue with it... women come with fame... how many girls would really want 50 cent without fame? Vin diesel mentioned he struggled getting a date when he was a telemarketer but once he was in a few films all of a sudden he's never had to worry about the dating scene since and my favorite quote from tupac
"I don't understand how people can stand next to you one year,
and next year, they cannot. They're going crazy, screaming.
They can't take it that you're there. But last year I was in the same club,
walking around, lonely like a mother****er.
Couldn't get a date or a dance. I was too skinny, too something,
and now, "He's just adorable. He's just, oh!" "

 

[KoalaKing]

realllly everyone knows this you cant argue with it... women come with fame... how many girls would really want 50 cent without fame? Vin diesel mentioned he struggled getting a date when he was a telemarketer but once he was in a few films all of a sudden he's never had to worry about the dating scene since and my favorite quote from tupac
"I don't understand how people can stand next to you one year,
and next year, they cannot. They're going crazy, screaming.
They can't take it that you're there. But last year I was in the same club,
walking around, lonely like a mother****er.
Couldn't get a date or a dance. I was too skinny, too something,
and now, "He's just adorable. He's just, oh!" "

You have hit the nail right on the head, I often see reporters interveiwing, Rod Stewart, saying how damn sexy he is for a guy aged in his 60's, yet I don't think he is sexier than every other man who is the same age as him, it is just the media hype that has enabled him to attain this status.

If you were to visit any gym in the UK and the USA you would see many guys who were much better looking than, Rod Stewart, yet because they are not stated as being hunks via the media, they don't attract anywhere near the amount of hot young babes that, Rod Stewart, does.

Here in Australia just by appearing on tv as a house-mate in Big Brother will significantly improve your ability to allure the more attractive members of the opposite sex.

If being on a show like that has such a powerful impact on how the opposite sex interacts with those house-mates, then it is going to have a much more powerful impact on a person who has even higher credentials within the celebrity world status. :yes:

 

[blueguy]

A guy with skills and passion can achieve the same, he just has to show the girl he has it....rather than allowing the mass media to do it for him.

I think this is all it comes down to. Fame just multiplies your quantity, but you'll still get the same quality based on whatever it is you do / look like... no matter how many people you are exposed to.

Riches... well they can buy you a wife, but if you've ever been loved before, I'm sure you'd be able to tell whether she loves you / is all over you or just likes the house you live in, car you drive, places you go.

It still all comes down to looks and personality, and that is never going to change.

 

[Trapper]

you all rite.. fame and money does the matter for getting really hot chicks ...how about the rest of them? WHO is taking care of them? .. on the other hand, im damn sure that i have had f..k so many girls than any famous artist your comparing....they can not show up any girl any time any place.. rite..IM Not famous and not HAVING enough money.. i DO have peronality and looks ...that's all WE need GUYS..what else you wanT more?

 

[Trapper]

go to clubs.. you even dont have to spend any money to get girls..

 

[KoalaKing]

you all rite.. fame and money does the matter for getting really hot chicks ...how about the rest of them? WHO is taking care of them? .. on the other hand, im damn sure that i have had f..k so many girls than any famous artist your comparing....they can not show up any girl any time any place.. rite..IM Not famous and not HAVING enough money.. i DO have peronality and looks ...that's all WE need GUYS..what else you wanT more?

I don't think that you can compare the personality and good looks of a guy who isn't of celebrity status to one who does have it.

I myself am a 38 year old guy who has an attractive young 21 year old Wife, yet if I was to walk into the same bar when, Brad Pitt, and, 50 Cent, were in there, they would be surrounded by all of the hottest babes, whilst I was left at the bar to drink alone because no one knows who I am.

I have not slept with many girls throughout my life but all of the ones that I have been with have been gorgeous to look at.

I have never really been into clubs or one night stands, nor have I really ever gamed girls in that sence.

Many pretty girls have gamed me in recent years, yet I have spent long periods of my life as a single guy without having any sexual activity.

Girls veiw things a lot different than guys do, if a guy sees a gorgeous girl he doesn't have to see her with heaps of other good looking guys before he begins to show an interest in her.

Most guys would prefer to be with a HB9 who wasn't a movie star than they would a HB7 that was famous, but girls are different in this way.

Girls also seem to know which other girls are pretty and attract the guys, yet the guys don't really know what other guys are good looking and attract the girls, which is also another grave difference between the sexes.

I don't know why, Doctor Love, for instance always uses guys like, Elvis Presley and Denis Rodman, as his examples at the beginning of his stories, as these type of guys don't need to use any techniques to pull the chicks, they are chick magnets just by their appearance's within a particular place.

I guess in reality we can only use the gifts that we have got to attempt to allure the girls of our desires and the PUA community is doing this, but it is always going to be easier for the rich and the famous guys than it is going to be for the average Joe's like me in the community who may be reasonably handsome and have a great personality, but isn't known about in the world wide scene. :yes:

 

[530dj]

go to a club in so cal where members of the san diego chargers are making an appearance you could be mother theresa :yawn: with all the looks u want ur still dog meat. not to say you cant get girls without fame or cash but the more you have the easier it is to pull girls dont fool yourself... how many girls do real world guys pull just for being on the real world ? and those are just C-class celebs put Michael Jordan in the club and he will be screwing girls who just received their new ku klux klan membership card in the mail.

 

[Bonhomme]

No sh1t, Sherlock.

This thread should have been closed straight away. Mods, where art thou?

 

[KoalaKing]

No sh1t, Sherlock.

This thread should have been closed straight away. Mods, where art thou?

The TRUTH of the matter is that you know so damn well that the likes of MICHAEL JORDAN and BRAD PITT have it all over you me and every other guy who is a member of this forum when it comes to alluring the hottest babes so you just don't want to hear about it, it hurts you too much to acknowledge it. :yes:

 

[Canadiandon]

Its all in how you present yourself. Buy fancy looking clothing that look like they are designer wear for a cheap price at H&M and chicks wont know the difference. Make it look like you are rich by taking her to fancy Hotel bars with beautiful lounges where surprise, surprise drink prices are almost the same as regular bars maybe a dollar or two more. Its all in the presentation and your style. Don't get me wrong being a millionaire doesn't hurt either.

 

[bingo_]

how cool would it be to be famous eh. just walk down the street and non actor girls would be all over you for just being famous. they will never be single.

 

[mattb717]

Sure your social status gives you the benefit of being to get all the "hottest" babes, but how many of those hot babes do you honestly think can even carry a decent conversation? The types of girls those guys end up with are the kind that their idea of keeping up with current events is knowing when the mall is having a shoe sale. That's fine if you want to be the type of person looking to bang random girls every night, but it's not my cup of tea.

The only benefit I'd see in being rich and famous would be having the oppurtunity to bring girls like Paris Hilton and Tara Reid off their pedestals when no one else will.