Example: Don't Take Advice From Women

[sailorgirl]

guys give me a break

a decent sensible girl can give you the best advice on girls ever , why because we are girls and we know why we do what we do a guy never knows that. And I would definately take a guys advice on a guy anyday over a girls!!!!

 

[Player_Supreme]

Re: read prosemonts post

Originally posted by sailorgirl
What are you guys thinking??????? You obviously do not know women at all and just want to whine and complain instead of realizing men and women are just different period!!! No sex is better than the other we just think differently and as soon as you figure this out you will have nothing to complain about.

Again read prosemonts post this sight is getting very hateful non productive an childish to say the least

1. You can't change the course of a river. Men will be men and women women.

2. I don't take advice from a woman. Not cause I am a woman hater, but most women think emotionally. We both communicate differently. Women have the ability to access both hemispheres of the brain where as we men generally only the logical side.

3. Your mention of prosemonts post was for me and a few others who had engaged in senseless flaming. It would be nice to stop flaming but I don't see how you are being flamed here. If you want to see flaming read some of my posts.

I hope you fit in on this site.

peace

 

[Sexy_Malibu]

for starters i didnt say ALL i said there are rare exceptions, read it properly next time.

If you notice, I wasn't "offended" by your first post... I just wrote my own opinion. It was when you started making no sense that I got a little snitty (still not "offended" though really - if you noticed the big I was half joking there). I wasn't responding to your first post where you said there were rare exceptions (which I don't think they're necessarily "rare" anyway)... I was responding to this:

case in point, i saw "now you have to do this this and this first before you can gauge where shes coming from, and then you can tell if her advice will be solid".

for phucks sake what a waste of time, why not just save a newbie and tell him dont take chicks advice
it would save so much time, effort, hassle to the poor saps

What I'm saying is that you need to make that effort when you are going to take advice from anyone who is not a trusted friend and/or established as a reliable source of good advice. To say it's a waste of time to do that, so don't take advice from women... well that's just dumb. You should do that anytime ANYONE gives you advice. If you follow blindly the advice of some idiot just because he isn't female... that's not a very good idea either. You might as well have said "dont take anyone's advice it would save so much time, effort, hassle..."

Okay, sexy malibu and sailorgirl, why don't you wake up and think about this. Would you take your average guy's advice on guys? Or would you take a more-experienced GIRL's advice? This one should be a no brainer. Girls don't know how to get girls because they have no experience at it unless they're lesbians.

Well based on the original post of this thread, the advice wasn't really on how to get girls but on whether or not the girls were interested in the guy. Now while girls may not know a lot about getting girls... we DO know a lot about getting gotten (??) AND we definitely know about the way girls act. Based on the original post, if the girl is actually giving honest advice... then she probably has more info on the subject of whether the chicks liked him or not, because she probably spoke to them/knows the inside dirt.

The bottom line is don't generalise. Don't take advice from anyone, if you can't trust yourself, you can you trust?

Word. You can get good advice from girls sometimes, you can get horrible advice from girls at other times. You can get good advice from guys sometimes, you can get horrible advice from guys at other times. You should NEVER take ANYONE entirely on their word unless you have reason to trust that person. You know who you can trust and who you can't trust. Gender shouldn't really matter... it's like I said before:

Your problem is not in taking advice from women... it is in taking advice from stupid, b*tchy women.

A lot of times women (AND MEN) give bad advice because they have their own agenda. Find out what is this girl's agenda... and then you will know how to judge the advice.

This applies equally to men and women.

 

[Bonhomme]

Question for sailorgirl ...

Do you truly think that a woman who falls for a jerk would really advise men to be like that jerk she falls for?

But then, you did say sensible girl.

 

[WaterTiger]

Ahhhh! Such a lovely day for fireworks! I brought the popcorn, any body got some beer?

 

[( . )( . )]

(which I don't think they're necessarily "rare" anyway)...

rubbish, the day i see a chick give a guy solid , logical advice on how attraction works, relationships etc in the real world to a guy whos struggling for answers is the day I will buy the girl a drink and a pat on the back.

So considering maybe 9 times out of 10 a guy will get the stock standard "just be yourself" or something equally retarded when asking a chick for advice make the chances of finding women who tells it like it is sounds pretty rare to me.

with that being said, wouldnt it make sense to just tell an AFC who wants some answers to just steer clear of womens advice altogether? (yes of course it does )

like it or not, most womens advice on relationships is garbage and ALL should be taken with a grain of salt, this is just the way it is, like everyone keeps saying men and women just think different :ie chicks dont have a clue what they want most of the time, with emotion and wishful thinking getting in the way of logic almost all the time.

anyway this thread is phucked it shouldnt even be a debatable issue, i feel a bit silly even defending the fact when its self explanatory why one should not listen to a women with the amount of clueless AFCs around.

 

[Frank Zappa]

Some women are alright to take advice from. One of my best friends always tells me things that reaffirm DJism. She tells me that a certain guy is 10 times more attractive because he's a mystery and doesn't let people know anything about him. Or that guy's hot because he's a bad boy. She also refers to a lot of AFC behavior as sick. But in general, most women are all about preserving the image of being a classy woman who wants such prince that will treat her hand to foot if you ask them. You have to pick and choose the woman you listen to carefully or else it's suicide. ~Zappa

 

[JustDoItAlways]

I'll repost something I posted a few months back.

Originally posted by JustDoItAlways
There has been lots of girls come and go on this board over time.

There have been very, very few who could contribute productively in the long-run.

First things first. Women give very bad advice, you should all know that already.

Second, here is the timeline of events of most female posters.

- They post a question about some guy they like. They get a bunch of really good answers and then they end up taking absolutely none of that advice and do something stupid instead and totally fvck it up.

- Later they may make a post or two on whatever topic which is actually pretty good. A few guys post back and say hey thanks chickepoo.

- She posts a few more good ones and then ends up going absolutely crazy. She posts on every topic that comes up over the next little while thinking she has the only answer to every problem.

- Every post ends up being a 50 post monster thread about her personal life, guys flirting back and forth with her and guys arguing with her.

- Eventually a few guys get sick of it and flame the sh1t out of her until she leaves or the mods ban her. This may take months.

- This is the exact timeline in about 70% of the chicks who come here. 25% post a few times and leave. 5% can come back anytime.

DO NOT ENCOURAGE THE FEMALE POSTERS UNLESS YOU WANT THE ABOVE TO HAPPEN.

 

[Eyecandie4ya]

Originally posted by Juan_Man
The only women you should listen to are your mom and your sister. They WANT you to be successful with women. Your mom wants grandkids and your sister wants a little nephew or niece she doesn't have to take care of.

BTW, when I had female friends, I tended to give good advice, usually along the lines of "He only wants you for sex!!!"

This is so true!

Ask women what type of man they want and the reply will be "a man that is a man".

 

[Quick]

Wow, justdoitalways, i've noticed the exact same pattern, and it's been a little annoying to me. For the females that have been here awhile, most of the threads they post in become long arguments. The girl will either say something inflammatory about guys or challenge DJ principles(like here), or some guy will tell a girl to shut up just because she's a female and is worthless, and off we go. If not for the females, this thread would have gotten 5 posts and then died.

I know a lot of guys on here have problems getting girls, but it's really pathetic to be flirting with the girls on here. This isn't a chat board, it's a board for the sole purpose of discussing how to become a Don Juan. Besides the fact that you have no chance of getting them, they could all be 500 pound monsters. There's even some guys that try to compete for the females' attention.

 

[poonologist]

lmao

this was entertaining

 

[MetalFortress]

Re: guys give me a break

Originally posted by sailorgirl
a decent sensible girl can give you the best advice on girls ever , why because we are girls and we know why we do what we do a guy never knows that. And I would definately take a guys advice on a guy anyday over a girls!!!!

Bullcrap. Back when I was an AFC with oneitis all the girls I asked told me "tell her how you feel" and crap like that. The only one who gave me any DJish advice was on all sorts of antidepressants. Don't you tell me that decent sensible girls give the best advice, because in this case they gave the WORST advice.

 

[ShortTimer]

Re: guys give me a break

Originally posted by sailorgirl
a decent sensible girl can give you the best advice on girls ever , why because we are girls and we know why we do what we do a guy never knows that. And I would definately take a guys advice on a guy anyday over a girls!!!!

Dear Sailor Moon:

Have you ever seduced a woman? What's that? Did you say "no"? Look: you're like a virgin talking about sex, you have no clue what it takes to seduce a woman or how to deal with them because you've never been in a romantic relationship with one.

Now, if you are a carpet muncher I do apologize for missing that fact.

 

[Sexy_Malibu]

rubbish, the day i see a chick give a guy solid , logical advice on how attraction works, relationships etc in the real world to a guy whos struggling for answers is the day I will buy the girl a drink and a pat on the back.

So considering maybe 9 times out of 10 a guy will get the stock standard "just be yourself" or something equally retarded when asking a chick for advice make the chances of finding women who tells it like it is sounds pretty rare to me.

with that being said, wouldnt it make sense to just tell an AFC who wants some answers to just steer clear of womens advice altogether? (yes of course it does )

like it or not, most womens advice on relationships is garbage and ALL should be taken with a grain of salt, this is just the way it is, like everyone keeps saying men and women just think different :ie chicks dont have a clue what they want most of the time, with emotion and wishful thinking getting in the way of logic almost all the time.

If that is your logic, then I'd say "ALL advice from ALL PEOPLE should be taken with a grain of salt". And isn't that really the truth!? I've read a lot of really really really horrible advice on this site from guys... I would never try to generalize and say "Guys give bad advice" but WOW have I read some garbage here. Now you might say "Oh those are the AFCs"... but you can't always tell an AFC from a DJ right away; just like you can't always tell a woman with good advice from one with bad advice. I don't doubt that it has been your experience that women give bad advice, but that only proves my point... you are getting advice from the wrong women; no wonder it's bad advice and no wonder you wouldn't take it. I'm not saying you should take ALL women's advice, because a ton of women really DON'T know what they're talking about (or just aren't going to give you the truth even if they did)... but there are plenty of guys out there who would do the same thing. If you and I ever met in the "real world" you'd be buying me a drink and patting me on the back.

Have you ever seduced a woman? What's that? Did you say "no"? Look: you're like a virgin talking about sex, you have no clue what it takes to seduce a woman or how to deal with them because you've never been in a romantic relationship with one.

I said this before too... you don't have to be able to seduce a woman to know what it takes to seduce a woman. I'd say sometimes women know MORE about how to seduce a woman, because we KNOW what it takes for US to be seduced. Think about it... if you were an actor trying to audition for a casting agent, whose advice would you think would be more helpful? Another actor or a casting agent?

... They could be equally helpful (if they want to be)... the real issue is not whether women CAN give good advice... it is whether women WILL give good advice. It really comes down to knowing the right women (women who know what they're talking about, are trustworthy, are on your side, etc)... Not all guys know women like that, so to THOSE guys I'd say "DONT TAKE ADVICE FROM WOMEN." But I'd never say that to ALL guys about ALL women... There are plenty of guys who don't know any MEN who are trustworthy, etc, etc... so in that case I'd say "DON'T TAKE ADVICE FROM THOSE MEN." You all know who you are in this scenario... so you all know who you have in your life that is worthy of giving good advice and who is not... male/female...

Since you all know your own life and there is not cut and dry answer of "DO THIS" or "DON'T DO THAT", this thread is a waste of time...... And on that note, I will not post again because I won't contribute any more to this waste of time.

PS: JustDoIt... I could easily take all of your statements and turn them around to describe certain MALE posters on this site, but I'm not going to waste my time doing that.

 

[Rahul]

My 2 Cents...

Wow...

Well the only thing women in the thread brought up against this issue is that "sometimes" women give good advice and "sometimes" guys give horrible advice.

But the fact still remains that women in general give really crappy advice when it comes to getting other women. I remember with my last oneitis (the one that f*cked up my life so much and hurt me so bad that it drove me to want to change and eventually discover this site) all the girls were telling me to be open with her about my feelings and do "sweet" things for her, and you know what happened? She went from wanting me bad (to the point where she told her friends that she really wanted to sleep with me) to totally avoiding me, and I still chased her because I was totally clueless about relationships and didn't get the point.

If you knew that planes in general crashed and killed all of their passengers, but "sometimes" they arrived to their destination safely, would you fly in an airplane? Of course not, so why take the risk of taking advice from a woman? It's just not worth all the heartache you're going to experiance by waiting for the one that knows what she's talking about instead of the vast majority that are lieing to themselves stuck inside fairy tale complexes fabricated by the scores of chic flicks and romance novels they have seen and read.

The smart thing to do if you're looking for advice at all would be to ask a guy who is successful with women, because:

#1 - he has empirical evidence that his methods actually do work (lots of hot b*tches)

#2 - his advice isn't clouded by emotion or alterior motives (preserving an idealistic veiw of the world)

 

[Sexy_Malibu]

Re: My 2 Cents...

Okay......... I'm TOTALLY contradicting myself by posting again... Dammit... I HATE when that happens... but I just couldn't help myself when I read THAT nonsense...

Originally posted by Rahul
But the fact still remains that women in general give really crappy advice when it comes to getting other women.

Um... the fact may remain that the women YOU know generally give crappy advice... only shows that you are getting advice from the WRONG women... that's just bad luck on your part that you don't know any women who can give you good advice... but I don't think it's fair to make a general statement about all women based on your sh*t luck.

If you knew that planes in general crashed and killed all of their passengers, but "sometimes" they arrived to their destination safely, would you fly in an airplane?

Um... I don't see the airline industry going out of business any time soon Rahul. Bad analogy. You're only proving MY point... Yeah, planes crash sometimes and yes, all their passengers can be killed when they crash... people keep flying. But they use some judgement when they do... they don't get on a plane that has a broken wing or anything. And you know what... people die in car crashes ALL THE TIME... but that obviously isn't keeping anyone from driving because if it was why is there still so much f*cking traffic!?

Of course not, so why take the risk of taking advice from a woman? It's just not worth all the heartache you're going to experiance by waiting for the one that knows what she's talking about instead of the vast majority that are lieing to themselves stuck inside fairy tale complexes fabricated by the scores of chic flicks and romance novels they have seen and read.

Again. The problem is not WOMEN but THE WRONG WOMEN... I wouldn't take advice from any of my female friends that were "stuck inside fairy tale complexes"... so I don't recommend that any guys do it either. But there ARE girls out there with brains... in GENERAL, most women DO have brains... YOU should use YOUR brain to recognize which ones do and which ones don't and take advice accordingly.

The smart thing to do if you're looking for advice at all would be to ask a guy who is successful with women

Yeah, but a lot of the time guys are the BIGGEST bull**** artists when it comes to being "successful with women". Look at this site alone and guess how many of the guys here are for real and how many are full of ****.

NOW PLEASE SOMEONE PLEASE POST SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE SO I DONT HAVE TO RESPOND AGAIN... ha ha ha

 

[Wild at heart]

Ill post something that makes sense:

Sexy Malibu, Quit trying to be an A.W on this site and pine for the guys affection.

There. I'm done.

 

[Frank Zappa]

I don't like typing much, but Sexy Malibu, you were spinning Rahul's airplane analogy. Of course if airplanes were the way the are now, where they hardly ever crash you would ride them. What he was saying is, would you step foot on an airplane if you knew the chances of it crashing were 90%. Because that's the percentage you are dealing with when you ask a girl for advice. And you will crash and burn. ~Zappa

 

[Rahul]

Re: Re: My 2 Cents...

Originally posted by Sexy_Malibu
Okay......... I'm TOTALLY contradicting myself by posting again... Dammit... I HATE when that happens... but I just couldn't help myself when I read THAT nonsense...

You're really showing a lack of maturity when, instead of using logic you resort to name calling (nonsense)

Um... the fact may remain that the women YOU know generally give crappy advice... only shows that you are getting advice from the WRONG women... that's just bad luck on your part that you don't know any women who can give you good advice... but I don't think it's fair to make a general statement about all women based on your sh*t luck.

The women I know, the women my neighbor knows, the women my dog knows, they all give sh*ty advice. I've been looking for a woman that gives sound advice since my first crush in 3rd grade but I have yet to find her. I bet if you asked the guys on this site to take a survey over 95% of them would say the same. So if it is based on my "sh*t luck" then almost every guy that takes advice from women has the same "sh*t luck"

Um... I don't see the airline industry going out of business any time soon Rahul. Bad analogy. You're only proving MY point... Yeah, planes crash sometimes and yes, all their passengers can be killed when they crash... people keep flying. But they use some judgement when they do... they don't get on a plane that has a broken wing or anything. And you know what... people die in car crashes ALL THE TIME... but that obviously isn't keeping anyone from driving because if it was why is there still so much f*cking traffic!?

Planes in general don't crash. Advice from women on the other had is generally full of sh*t.

Again. The problem is not WOMEN but THE WRONG WOMEN... I wouldn't take advice from any of my female friends that were "stuck inside fairy tale complexes"... so I don't recommend that any guys do it either. But there ARE girls out there with brains... in GENERAL, most women DO have brains... YOU should use YOUR brain to recognize which ones do and which ones don't and take advice accordingly.

They may have brains, but I have yet to meet one that uses it.

Yeah, but a lot of the time guys are the BIGGEST bull**** artists when it comes to being "successful with women". Look at this site alone and guess how many of the guys here are for real and how many are full of ****.

empirical

Empiric \Em*pir"ic\, Empirical \Em*pir"ic*al\, a. 1. Pertaining to, or founded upon, experiment or experience; depending upon the observation of phenomena; versed in experiments.

In philosophical language, the term empirical means simply what belongs to or is the product of experience or observation. --Sir W. Hamilton.

The village carpenter . . . lays out his work by empirical rules learnt in his apprenticeship. --H. Spencer.

2. Depending upon experience or observation alone, without due regard to science and theory; -- said especially of medical practice, remedies, etc.; wanting in science and deep insight; as, empiric skill, remedies.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

I am well aware that guys are bullsh*t artists when it comes to how successful they are with women, but the word empirical implies that you actually observed him being successful with women, IE: he always has a different hot b*tch with him who is he going out with and nailing.

NOW PLEASE SOMEONE PLEASE POST SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE SO I DONT HAVE TO RESPOND AGAIN... ha ha ha

Now please stop being so childish and resort to verbally degrading the quality of other people's posts because you have nothing else to say.

Originally Posted by Frank Zappa
I don't like typing much, but Sexy Malibu, you were spinning Rahul's airplane analogy. Of course if airplanes were the way the are now, where they hardly ever crash you would ride them. What he was saying is, would you step foot on an airplane if you knew the chances of it crashing were 90%. Because that's the percentage you are dealing with when you ask a girl for advice. And you will crash and burn. ~Zappa

Thank you.

 

[Kid-Icarus]

oh man i just logged in and read halfway to page 2 and even i felt i had to reply...

Women more times than not give bad advice when it comes to getting a female to guys....my experience alone taught me that b4 i ever even found sosuave

some women do give good advice but the ones i know who do are the ones that know the MAIN girl your after.....any other advice on how to get women women in GENERAL is bs because she doesnt know all girls out ther

all women are different so know one or multiple advice will help you land chicks..take girls advice like a grain of salt...throw it on a burger wit cheese eat and sh*t it out later cuz that what it will be..
(no offense ladies)

as for the flirting with females on this board...yeah it is kinda stupid...some of the females here might just really be guys so keep in mind this is a place for advice not hooking up

if you dis agree remember that no matter what a girl tells you about another girl unless she is like a best friend of hers for years and not just a mutual friend she aint got no idea what it takes for you to get in that girls pants..

thats my 2cents......Back 2 the shadows