Ex-PUA member reveals the flaws in the movement

[killahpl]

Brilliant post. Five Stars. The guys who don't want to hear it fit three categories: (1) Young boys (2) Guys who work at Cell Phone kiosks in the middle of malls (3) Are trying to promote their PUA products.

I would say that the UK is very similar to America and Anglophile Canada. Quebec is a bit different in that it is not totally Anglophile. So the girls are a tiny bit easier to deal with. Not much, but better than other places. The more Francophile the town is the easier it is. So maybe if you head to the small towns.

I grew up in America. Hell on earth. Even Western Europe is heaven compared to what I grew up around. Girls are easier to talk to. You are not evil the moment they see you. Men are not emasculated to the degree that American men are.

Now, Eastern Europe is more extreme. Most of it is an odd combination of the highest caliber of girl combined with a land where feminism NEVER touched down on. The Commies were a lot of things, but they were NOT for hippies or feminists. They were hard core into traditional values. There were no student protests on Tverskaya Ulitsa doing Soviet Times. This lack of counterculture movements resulted in beautiful girls who still want to give themselves to a man. The fact that things are very rough for many make it an even more appealing land for the American man.

Or, you know, you can take advice from a guy who actually LIVES in Eastern Europe and who knows for a fact that, yes, feminism HAS touched down on this land, and that most of the women here you might be interested in are NOT "hard core into traditional values."

 

[Iceberg]

Or, you know, you can take advice from a guy who actually LIVES in Eastern Europe and who knows for a fact that, yes, feminism HAS touched down on this land, and that most of the women here you might be interested in are NOT "hard core into traditional values."

Thank you.

I hate this "Grass is greener" nonsense. Men all over the world, in every era of history, have had problems with women in one form or another. It's not like you get off a plane to Europe and women flock to you.

I don't know how awful these guys' experience with women must have been, but damn...I've never had that much of a problem to where i felt like I should leave my country to find girls. If these guys find that American women are stuck up, gold-digging, feminists, it's because they dated stuck up, gold-digging, feminist American women...Let's not be foolish and label the entire country as such.

 

[kangyu]

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[zekko]

It's not like you get off a plane to Europe and women flock to you.

Oh, well what's the point of going then?

 

[Ease]

(3) Are trying to promote their PUA products.

Dont want to point out the obvious, but this guy is advertising his website.

Its filled with drool that is supposed to make you go to his website instead of this one.

Are you retarded?

 

[Alle_Gory]

Are you retarded?

Well... we do have a pretty high retard population here on sosuave. They're the idiots that pay for these "PUA" products.

 

[f283000]

It's not like you get off a plane to Europe and women flock to you.

Rockefeller/Rothschild money (they created feminazism) is pouring into eastern europe to fund the feminist/gay agenda there. The quality of the women from eastern europe is seeing a noticeable decrease because of this as stated previously. If you want to get in the game you better get in now because the generation growing up now will probably be not much different than that of American women.

However you still have asia. China for example is a heaven for quality women. Still a very conservative country with a huge poor population you have countless quality women looking for a husband. Chinese women are known to be virgins well past their 20's. Promiscuity is frowned upon in China. If you start dating a girl in China that's like signing a marriage agreement. They are expected to marry their first boyfriend they don't sleep around with countless guys like white women do. If you ever are ready to settle down and want your wife to be a virgin then there aren't that many places you can look to besides China.

 

[Lexington]

This whole notion that women are somehow different in North America is complete and utter GARBAGE. Women are weird ANYWHERE in the world you go. Deal with it!!!!!

There's no utopia where the women are going to fling themselves at you and beg you to make sweet love to them! I'm not originally from the U.S. and I have traveled to and lived in many different countries.

Whether you go to India, Saudi Arabia, Hong Kong, South Africa, Australia, the Netherlands, Brazil or Detroit, Michigan (and I have been to all those places), men there all say the same thing: "geez, what the hell is wrong with women!?"

The guy in thread starter's post talks about guys who come over to the States and all of a sudden have zero success in the dating game. Well, I've also met some foreign guys that come here and get so much pvssy it's just sickening!

Women are the way the way they are. You can either whine and complain about it and fantasize about these imaginary foreign women, or you can actually do something about it!

This DJ/PUA stuff is just a few techniques to help put your best foot forward with the ladies. It's nothing more and nothing less. You should by no means dedicate your life to it. The stuff you read here on these forums and this site is more than enough to have success.

 

[liquidsun]

Correction badly needed

If you are a Democrat, and by definition the strong alpha guy is a Republican then you will refuse to be with them because they are your political enemy. Men, or rather masculinity in this feminized country, is the political enemy of the extreme Left.

I know this is an old thread but I have to address this. I agreed with everything you said until this diatribe. First of all I am a very liberal guy, just to get that out of the way. Second, as someone who has come out of a long term screwed up relationship in the past year I understand exactly how screwed up a lot of women have become but this political comparison and unequivocal hatred of feminism is a bunch of bs. YES, the current incarnation of (neo)feminism is wildy out of control but we need to make the distinction between feminism that helped equalize men and women in our society and so-called feminism that places women above men in society. To me the elevation of women above men is the ultimate problem but we do a disservice to women who fought to equalize their place in society not to take over society and we certainly don't help ourselves finding allies amongst women.

The other issue is your political comparison which is almost more infuriating. It implies that everyone on the left thinks women are superior and only Republican men are masculine which is obvious nonsense. Attributing the current trends among women in North America to liberalism is even more ridiculous when you consider the US is one of the most conservative countires in the Western world and the dating scene is worse here than any of those "socialist" countries. In fact one could argue that the dominant conservative viewpoint of the previous centruy that places women in seperate and unequal roles is the real root of the problem, causing resentment and eventual rebellion against it...but I'm not going to do that.

I'm sure you're very into politics as am I but when you start believing that policy differences dictate good or poor behaviour you need to take a step back and get out the bubble. I have friends from all political stripes in all kinds of relationships and the one thing I know is that their political leanings have zero effect on whether or not their relationships are stable or out of control.

 

[Darth]

I consider myself conservative but I think there are plenty of pvssies in both parties currently.

We need a third party.

 

[liquidsun]

Rockefeller/Rothschild money (they created feminazism) is pouring into eastern europe to fund the feminist/gay agenda there.

WOW! You are a whack-a-doodle. Your problem is probably more related to spending days on end reading conspiracy theories on the internet. Get out and get some sun.

 

[Kbomb]

PUA has some good things and bad things like most everything. Traveling abroad where women are desperate for a man who can support them is no way to approach the problem. That's like saying you are worthless in america by american standards so ill go somewhere where the standards are a lot lower.

 

[pipe007]

In my experience I have probably gotten around 200 phone numbers in day time game and I've lost count of how many I've taken on a date from day time pick up.... Wtf are some of u talking about?

I'm pissed!! Everything works if u believe on it...!if it doesn't try something new... I don't try pua stuff...I just put myself out there mercilessly and getting better and better.... Everything works if u don't take urself seriously....you end up seeing urself in the most random sotuations with people u never met before..... Besides ur parents....!every person u know started out as a stranger....some people are passive and prefer others to introduce people to them...!these never date that often... But if ur proactive and choose to do whatever pua bs u want... U will see results
Bye!

 

[Trailboss]

Not gonna read your crappy infomercial for another infomercial....if you dont like it here: get out. Dont try to convince anyone of anything when all Your doing is selling more crap....

And just because all you picked up were crappy women, does not mean others here dont do better....