EX girlfriend has returned...?

AFCchamp

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A semi-quick history rundown:

A year and a half ago the girl I was seeing said she wanted to start building a life with me. We had planned on moving in together. 5-6 months later she went to a movie set for 3 months to work. She came back and broke up with me for nebulous reasons ("I think we're moving in different directions"). A week later my father passed away under terrible circumstances. The ex found out and called me to get back together (I asked her to only return if she wanted me, not because of my father's death). We reunite. A month later my cat drops dead, 3 months after that my uncle dies. All of this was further exacerbated by a long and difficult job transition and heavy/nebulous health issues. Needless to say, I wasn't the best guy to be around and I didn't exactly trust my girlfriend anymore. Time went on and she began to pull away from me via confusing phone conversations. She finally admits she's attracted to another man (a handsome guy in a metal band she met on a second movie set), I proceed to ask her to not put herself around him. Two weeks later she ignores my request and sees him with a group of friends. Things fall into breakupsville from there.

Obviously there's a lot more going on behind this. I had AFC behavior when she went to the movie set, and that behavior came back during the last portion of the relationship due to stress. Even still, her even thinking about another man during that period of my life seems pretty low for anyone, despite her being a kind person otherwise. She also told me a lot of things that were hard to deal with, like "the metal guy is my sexual ideal" and insinuated I was abusive for being bothered that she went to a concert with that guy (obviously I yelled a lot when that came up). I even paid off her credit card bill to remove her from debt before moving in. Though it was mentioned that she would, she never paid me back. I do understand, though, that my insecurity was a mistake, even if she was gas-lighting it. I'm sure that's why she lost her attraction for me.

Current situation:

Many months go by with nearly zero contact. I removed her from Facebook and blocked some of her friends. I sent her a single text message on Christmas, she sent me one on my birthday (I ignored her own birthday not out of spite, but to finally kill the only method of contact we had left). Otherwise, zero contact.

Now, 8 months later, she messaged me for the first time via Facebook. She asked me if I wanted to meet and exchange the items we left at each others places, in person. The items in question are worthless, a couple of books here and there, nothing i care about. I eventually reply saying to meet me at a specific date and time, she replies apologizing for being busy with work for the remainder of the week, asking if it's ok to meet up at the same time next week. At the bottom of the email she asks "PS How are you and your family doing?". I reply saying "that's fine, send me a remind about it next week", and then give her a very brief description of what the family is doing. I then ask her how her own family is doing.

Flash forward to 4 days later, she has not replied to my last message. I tell a friend about the situation and they explain that she's been active on facebook (aka she's ignoring the message). It turns out that she ditched the meeting to see the heavy metal guy (who she may not have been seeing until recently, oddly).

My question:

Why would she bother doing this? Why bother to make contact, follow it with niceties, and then proceed to ignore me? Why not just send me the items in question instead of meeting? I basically confirmed the meeting date regardless of the lack of a reply, so does that mean i should meet her regardless? The meeting date is two days from now. I would like to have a closure conversation, but I don't want to expend energy giving her attention considering she's dodging my message. Should I ignore her?
 

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I have written this before but it seems fitting--

Have you ever watched a cat stalking and toying with a mouse just for it's amusement.
IF you watch long enough you will see the cat clobber the mouse just to see and hear how loudly the mouse squeals.

You have been emotionally clobbered, my man.
 

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AFCchamp said:
I even paid off her credit card bill to remove her from debt before moving in. Though it was mentioned that she would, she never paid me back.
AFCchamp said:
Now, 8 months later, she messaged me for the first time via Facebook. She asked me if I wanted to meet and exchange the items we left at each others places, in person.
Why would she bother doing this? Why bother to make contact, follow it with niceties, and then proceed to ignore me? Why not just send me the items in question instead of meeting?
(1) What JoPhil said.

(2) I caught the credit card gem in the midst of your essay. She might be setting you up for future "debt removal". You responding to her email was her way of validating herself. She basically knows that she can contact you at anytime and that you'll still talk to her.

(3) Eventually, she'll do it again. Be careful if she becomes NICER and actually responds.


Don't talk to her again.
Forget closure. You don't need it.
 

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Haha! Are you sure your username isn't "AFCchUmp"? Cause that's how you're acting: like a fvcking chump.

Dude, she's just playing with you and possibly wanting to use you even more than she already has.

Move on.

Edit: I see that Kailex already covered the "debt removal" thing. To the OP: dude, don't be a chump.
 

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Haha, I'll consider changing my nickname then.

We were together for three years, I don't think she cares about using me for money. She was really apprehensive about me giving her money 99% of the time (because she didn't want to have to owe me anything after a break up, which happened anyways...?). I was willing to give a lot more for other things, but she turned it down.

You're 100% correct though that she's probably looking for validation in some regard. It seems really selfish and odd that she would go about it in this way though. Oh well.
 

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AFCchamp said:
Haha, I'll consider changing my nickname then.

We were together for three years, I don't think she cares about using me for money. She was really apprehensive about me giving her money 99% of the time (because she didn't want to have to owe me anything after a break up, which happened anyways...?). I was willing to give a lot more for other things, but she turned it down.

You're 100% correct though that she's probably looking for validation in some regard. It seems really selfish and odd that she would go about it in this way though. Oh well.
Seems she is not getting what she desires or needs from heavy metal boy. Now wants to swing back to your branch for a bit. Motives yet to be determined. NC brother. You need to change yer name. Instead of AFC, turn it around. CFA.....Certified F'n Alpha
 

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She is just messing with your head..She is still banging this heavy metal dude..My friend, you need to break off all contact with her and move on..

cavedweller
 

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Is this a true story? "My girl is a b!tch and leaves me for a guy in a band" sounds like such a cliche.
 

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lots of red flags here... you don't think she was using you for your money? then why didn't she pay you back?

She leaves you for some guy in a band, then when he dumps her she's back. Then leaves again when he calls again. respect level for you: 0.

What to do now? resume no contact. Except this time stick to it. This girl is nothing but trouble for you. Just the fact that you are asking about this situation denotes the remnants of an AFC mentality. Lose that. Go sarging. Meet new girls. Spin plates. Live your life.

Good luck!
 

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I wish it wasn't a true story, but eh, oh well. It is. She was a really nice girl for many years, but she stopped caring once things got hard for me. That was partially my fault though, I was really quiet and negative during that period, understandably.
 

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Stop blaming yourself. she could have done what many other women do (like the song says) "Stand by your man". She could have supported you, and maybe brought you out of your depression. Right?

But you dont have to obsessively blame her as well.

Either way, it now does not matter. the connection just wasnt strong enough. move on. spin plates. good luck
 

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Update: She finally replied to my last message at 4:00 AM of the morning of the day we were supposed to meet (today). She's requested that she change the meet time to tomorrow after saying she won't have a car tonight. It's possible she's lying and seeing the metal guy again tonight, but whatever.

Is there really know way to gain anything from this meet up? Is there no way to gain closure or power from?
 

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AFCchamp said:
Update: She finally replied to my last message at 4:00 AM of the morning of the day we were supposed to meet (today). She's requested that she change the meet time to tomorrow after saying she won't have a car tonight. It's possible she's lying and seeing the metal guy again tonight, but whatever.

Is there really know way to gain anything from this meet up? Is there no way to gain closure or power from?
Practically everyone in this thread told you to MOVE ON and to leave this one alone.

And SURPRISE SURPRISE... she changed the day on you.

Please, don't contact her again. And since you are asking and I'm feeling generous... I'll bite:

- There is NOTHING to gain from this meetup. NOTHING at all. She only wants to string you along and play with your emotions. DO NOT MEET WITH HER.

- Why do you want closure? What closure do you need? She's MESSING WITH YOU. You say you want power right? Then grab a firm hold of the power of NO CONTACT. Don't EVER, EVERRRRRRRRRRRR talk to this girl again.

She's not good news. The fact that you joined this forum based on this girl should already mean that you shouldn't AT ALL talk to this woman. If you do meet up with her, she'll string you along AGAIN.

And by the way, she IS LYING. Nothing is wrong with her car and if she were REALLY interested in seeing you, she would have given you other options or taken other options to see you. She doesn't care about you, she just cares about keeping you on the side for whenever it is convinient for her.



One more time... for emphasis:

STAY AWAY FROM HER... do yourself that favor.
 

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AFCchamp said:
Is there really know way to gain anything from this meet up? Is there no way to gain closure or power from?
Sometimes getting a new girlfriend is the best and only cure
 
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