Ex and a New Guy

[Mando]

Haven't been here in a while, feels pretty good to be back.

So basically summed up- Girl and I meet through a friend(its a long distance type thing), start talking, start to like each other, get into a relationship for a couple of months(we only see each other a couple times), I start to get over-protective/too clingy, while at the same time she had started being distant and caring less and less. We break up and decide to just be friends although I still had feelings, take a break for a week, try to make things work but I overreact about something small, take another week break, she treats me like **** when we start to talk again. I ask her if she's seeing anyone and at first she denies it but then gives in and tells me she just started talking to someone(that she KNOWS I absolutely dislike because I knew he liked her when we were going out but she insisted he didn't), I basically tell her how ****ed up it is and how she makes me feel like dirt most of the time, and I end it by telling her she can talk to me when she gets respect for me and actually enjoys having me around instead of treating me like a chore. She tells me she'll call when she's ready(this happened yesterday, so it's not like I've been expecting a call anytime soon--I'd say about a week until she does).

Now, the thing is I still partially have feelings for this girl although I do care about her less than before. We can't make the long distance thing work, so I'm cool with just being friends since she was a pretty important person in my life. However, I know deep down that one of these days that she calls she's going to mention the guy, I'm going to get extremely jealous and probably mess things up again(unless I have someone of my own that makes me happy).

I know I made some major mistakes while in the relationship, such as being clingy after a certain point. I'm asking you guys for some help though- is there any way to control myself so that I don't overreact if she's still going out with this guy when we start talking again? The thought of them together makes me feel like I was easily replaceable, and that's why it sets me off. Any criticism, suggestions, or thoughts are highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Edit- I left something out that might be somewhat important-- Most of the guys that she's been in a relationship with have left her and shut her out, and she has anxiety. I told her I wouldn't ever do that to her and I'm a man of my word, so that's almost 100% out of the question unless she decides that's what she wants to do. Also note this is my third girlfriend and I felt that feelings between us were actually very strong compared to the other two, at least until things started going downhill.

 

[Mando]

Bump, anyone? Any insight is appreciated.

 

[Kailex]

Move on. Learn from this and forget her.

Haven't been here in a while, feels pretty good to be back.

So basically summed up- Girl and I meet through a friend(its a long distance type thing), start talking, start to like each other, get into a relationship for a couple of months(we only see each other a couple times), I start to get over-protective/too clingy,

This is normal and typical in LDR's. Since you can't see the person all the time, you'll have doubts on what they are doing, whether they are doing SOMEONE ELSE. This is why I typically stay away from LDR's. It's nothing more than a nerve wrecking experience, specially when you probably have tons more options in your area.

she treats me like **** when we start to talk again. I ask her if she's seeing anyone and at first she denies it but then gives in and tells me she just started talking to someone(that she KNOWS I absolutely dislike because I knew he liked her when we were going out but she insisted he didn't), I basically tell her how ****ed up it is and how she makes me feel like dirt most of the time, and I end it by telling her she can talk to me when she gets respect for me and actually enjoys having me around instead of treating me like a chore. She tells me she'll call when she's ready(this happened yesterday, so it's not like I've been expecting a call anytime soon--I'd say about a week until she does).

Again, why LDR's are terrible. She's got needs and you weren't always going to be physically there. Of course she had someone else. And when she tells you that she'll call when she's ready...

Translation: I will call you and get back with you whenever I please, simply because I have absolutely no other options.

I'd say, she's not going to be calling a week. You just basically handed the keys over in the relationship and allowed her to go out with anyone she wants. You might not see it that way, but believe me... she does... and she will.

Now, the thing is I still partially have feelings for this girl although I do care about her less than before. We can't make the long distance thing work, so I'm cool with just being friends since she was a pretty important person in my life.

She's not your mother or your father, she's not even family or a life-long friend. She's not THAT important.

However, I know deep down that one of these days that she calls she's going to mention the guy, I'm going to get extremely jealous and probably mess things up again(unless I have someone of my own that makes me happy).

Yes, it's going to happen. But she's not going to talk about the guy... she's going to call saying that she misses you and wants to see you again. What this means is that the other guy didn't work out for her.

Do you seriously want to be Option #2?

I know I made some major mistakes while in the relationship, such as being clingy after a certain point. I'm asking you guys for some help though- is there any way to control myself so that I don't overreact if she's still going out with this guy when we start talking again? The thought of them together makes me feel like I was easily replaceable, and that's why it sets me off. Any criticism, suggestions, or thoughts are highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Plenty of advice incoming:

#1: Go out with other WOMEN, not WOMAN...but WOMEN. And please, in your immediate area. You'll see how much easier it is to go out when you can see the people on any given day.

#2: Forget about this girl. She's an ex now, believe it or not. She's a part of your past, time for a new present.

#3: Read that DJ Bible again and the Book of Pook. You're too much of a nice guy... how do I know??? This last part.

I told her I wouldn't ever do that to her and I'm a man of my word, so that's almost 100% out of the question unless she decides that's what she wants to do.

Here, you gave her the entire frame of the relationship to her. And by the way, what is this... a romantic movie? That sounds like something you'd say in a movie right at the climax of it. Don't be giving your word to a woman on never leaving them. After only a few months, you don't know what issues she might have that might make you want to discontinue the relationship... but, you can't go against your word, right?

Please, don't ever say that to another woman again, not even if you're getting married. Nothing is 100% out of the question, so don't make promises you can't keep.

How to avoid being clingy? First, avoid LDR's. They suck. Second, work on your inner game... do things that FULFILL YOU. You seemed to be a little dependent on her for your own happiness. It shouldn't be that way.

Like I said... just stay away from this girl. She's not good news in your life anymore... specially since it's an LDR.

 

[hansol]

Mando,

Alright, first, reality check. LDR's are HORRIBLE. For every one you hear that "worked", there are 50 billion that didn't. So odds are bad from the start. Secondly, you never hear about all the cheating that both parties haven't confessed to eachother in the relationships that DID work...

See, the thing about LDRs is that "everything looks good from far away". Think about that for a bit. You aren't there in the day-to-day life of the other person, so you can't clearly evaluate how things are going. Because we are optimists (I mean you're in an LDR, so that's a giveaway) we tend to assume the best. At the same time, there's a nagging voice in the back of your head wondering if she is out being a scandalous tramp. It makes you crazy. It's not worth it.

Secondly, seriously ponder your position on prenuptial agreements. If you can't ever see yourself pushing one on your spouse, then you are too "nice", and need to do a bit of reading and re-evaluation regarding the gentler sex. Just getting that bit of perspective will help with future relationships and encounters.

Third, who cares what other guys did/didn't do. Don't think of her as a can-do-no-wrong princess. Ask yourself why did those other guys leave her and "shut her out"? If she was so incredible, those dudes wouldn't do that. So take some time to think about it from a different angle.

Last, Mando my man, you went dramatic on her. Drama only works on Grey's Anatomy. In real life, there is no falling on your sword, no selfless speeches, no kiss scene in the rain. Why? Because those get the "cringe factor" up. The name of the game is to ALWAYS avoid giving women an excuse to "cringe". And dramatic speeches make women roll their eyes and leave in a passive-aggressive fashion. It also drops you way down their peg-board of importance.

So thinking optimistically (generally a mistake), while you may have been at basecamp at Mt. Everest before, you are now back at the airport with your bags packed and a flight home.

Sorry mate, but the outlook doesn't look favourable. To answer your question though regarding "flipping out": just forget about this chick. If you don't care about her, you won't care who she is seeing. If you have another chick on the go, you REALLY won't care what this one is doing.

For what it's worth.

 

[Mando]

First of all, thank you both for taking the time to read what I wrote and post something on it. I do agree that I was being a little too dramatic, which is surprising because normally that's nothing like me. When we talked yesterday, she brought up a good point- If I was ok with only being friends, why did I care so much that she was seeing somebody else? It made me realize I was still attached and that I would be doing the same thing if I was in her spot.

Secondly, I completely agree that LTRs are just bad news, especially if you overanalyze things like myself. I never really meant for it to happen, it just sort of did and I gave into it, a huge mistake on my part.

Thirdly, after thinking for a bit, I realized that indeed I shouldn't care what thr other guys did because they had their reasons to, as do I. However, I've given her ultimatums(sp?) before, saying that she can either talk to me or not and that either way it doesn't matter to me, yet she calls back in a couple days every time. I don't get why she wouldn't just take the easy way out if she didn't want me around. Also, I absolutely despise being the second option/priority to some other guy, which is the only reason simply staying friends is going to be difficult(if that's the outcome).

Lastly, I do have something to thank her for though. This situation made me realize what countless people have told me and something that up until now I've had no clue how to do it. I realized that I had no interests and that I wasn't exploring things and enjoying life, but rather sitting there and letting everything fly by. I had relied on her so much to make me happy yet never thought about how I'd be happy if things turned out bad, and lost the ability to enjoy things myself. It hit me after all of this and reading around the site last night, and I decided I'm going to dedicate myself to, well, being me and enjoying it. I've started looking into paintballing as a hobby and taking studying and looking for a job more seriously, as well as keeping my gym schedule. I'd say although it's been rough this has been a beneficial experience and I'm glad it happened.

Thanks again for the insight, I'll bump this thread with any important updates, as for now I'm going to just let things flow and focus on me. Feel free to post any thoughts. Thanks in advance!

 

[TizZle]

Move on and Read DJ bible

 

[Mando]

Move on and Read DJ bible

Yeah, I read it when I first joined but I've been out of play for a while, I'll probably re-read it next week when I have less studying and whatnot. Thanks for your insight.

 

[Mando]

Update- I had told her I wanted some time apart and to not text or call me, but she insisted that we keep talking and that she really wants me around, and I gave in -_-.

I have a question though, is there any possibility of ****buddies in this? I'm going out to her area in the summer to hangout with a friend of mine, but I'm not sure if she'll even want to see me, especially if she's still with this guy. And also, is it normal to be upset thinking of how she's doing stuff with someone else, or is it just because I don't have anyone for myself at the moment? Once again, one part of me is saying to just let her go and cut contact, but another part is saying that's wrong and that since she wants to be friends I should stick around for her since she has a lot of stuff going on in her life :S. Thanks in advance for any advice you guys post, it helps my decision making a LOT.

 

[Kailex]

Update- I had told her I wanted some time apart and to not text or call me, but she insisted that we keep talking and that she really wants me around, and I gave in -_-.

Grow some balls, please.

I have a question though, is there any possibility of ****buddies in this?

Yes, but you can't pull it off. You are emotionally invested in this girl.

I'm going out to her area in the summer to hangout with a friend of mine, but I'm not sure if she'll even want to see me, especially if she's still with this guy.

She will still be with this guy. Why not game fresh girls instead of trying to hook up with one that's already pretty much friend-zoned you?

And also, is it normal to be upset thinking of how she's doing stuff with someone else, or is it just because I don't have anyone for myself at the moment?

Both. NEW GIRLS. Next this one.

Once again, one part of me is saying to just let her go and cut contact, but another part is saying that's wrong and that since she wants to be friends I should stick around for her since she has a lot of stuff going on in her life :S. Thanks in advance for any advice you guys post, it helps my decision making a LOT.

Again, you are emotionally invested in this. BACK AWAY.
Who cares if she has stuff going on in her life... that's the AFC way of thinking. You want to be her emotional tampon... then go for it. Personally, she can deal with her own crap on her own time. That's what her girlfriends and mom are for.

Nothing GOOD will come of this.

MOVE ON.

 

[Mando]

Alright, thanks for the advice. I was thinking that too, about being emotionally invested. I do have the sort of "Cost-benefits" mind set, and I felt as if I put in too much and didn't receive in enough in return, so I was stuck between cutting my losses or trying to fix it.

You're right, I'm not going to sit around and have to deal with all her bull**** if she won't even give me priority to anyone or I don't get anything out of this. I guess I'll slowly just start getting distant from her so she doesn't have an anxiety attack, and in the meanwhile start looking around for new girls =]. Gonna take some practice to get back into the game though :S

Thanks again, it helps me realize my mistakes a lot easier when someone points them out or criticizes.

 

[hansol]

DUDE!

End it! Be a man, step up, and call it quits. Then don't talk to her anymore. "...I'll slowly go distant..." What in the jesus are you talking about!? Don't do that fall-on-your-sword thing anymore. It didn't work before, and it sure as **** won't work now. Christ.

Emotionally invested = sunk cost. Sunk costs are irrelevant. They are in the past, and you can't do a damn thing about them. All you can do is judge whether or not there is a profit in moving forward. In this case there isn't.

Stop wasting your time, and stop painting the situation with a "noble" tint.

 

[Mando]

Eh yeah I wasn't doing it to be "noble", I just didn't want her to have another anxiety attack haha. I agree I need to stop making excuses and just get this done though, time to man up. Going to reread The Game this week too, I only got halfway finished last time.

 

[bukowski_merit]

Eh yeah I wasn't doing it to be "noble", I just didn't want her to have another anxiety attack haha. I agree I need to stop making excuses and just get this done though, time to man up. Going to reread The Game this week too, I only got halfway finished last time.

You really think she'll have an anxiety attack if you cut her out?

Do you know how many times all of us who have been here for a while have read "but she's a cool girl i'd like to keep around as a friend."??????????

Do you know how see-through that is.... You KNEW people were going to tell you to cut contact, leave this girl, NEXT, never talk to again, GFTOW (go fvck ten other women,) etc.... So you set up two barriers...

1) I made this promise to her to never cut contact with her...... And tell me Mando - what promise did she make to you? My man Franco said it best, "Women know nothing of honor."

They do not care if you honor your word or not. They just care if you make them horny; and you my friend - DO NOT do it for her. This other guy DOES. Maybe in a few months - she'll get tired of him and move on; and maybe your phone will ring.... And maybe you should answer it and say "i can't talk right now; this girl is giving my the best head i've ever gotten"...

2) She's really cool. I can just keep her as a friend.... SERIOUSLY, read other breakup threads around this board.... THEY ALMOST ALL SAY THIS SH!T and it's NONSENSE! You guys just KNOW what we're going to tell you... So you ask "how can i keep her as a friend without getting jealous?" instead of "how can i get her back?" Because you already know the answer to the 2nd one is us telling you YOU CAN'T!

YOU CAN'T
YOU CAN'T
YOU CAN'T

You could if you were someone else who really didn't care about this woman.

You're trying to be her knight and shining armor while she's sucking some other guys huge ****. This other guy who you've been afraid she'd end up with for a while.

I've been that other guy. And let me tell you - when i hear a woman say "my boyfriend doesn't like when i talk to you." or "my boyfriend thinks you want to fvck me and that's why you're friends with me" or "my boyfriend said if we ever break up im not allowed to date you." Or anything like that.... guess what? I know her pvssy is already wet for me... I know i can get her when the time is right...

There's NO REASON you should be honoring a statement you made to a woman who is no longer your girlfriend.
A woman who lives far away from you.
A woman who fvcks some other guy you dislike.
A woman who treats you nasty.

Fvck that! Go out and enjoy life and don't answer your phone when she calls... Don't text her... Don't visit her when you're in her town...

She's not going to kill herself
She's not going to have a heart attack
She's going to be fvcking some other guy with a huge c@ck

And loving it...

While you're stressing about it... Instead of sticking yours in someone else.

 

[Ice882]

LDR's are death. Never get in one again.

Dated a girl for 3 months. She left town -- I wouldn't see her for 9 months.

Tried to keep it going for a while. Sent her a letter, talked over facebook and phone.

Then, I realized I was initiating ALL the contact. So I sat back and waited for her to call me or message me.

I waited a week.

Then I moved on. I got a message about 2 weeks after I moved on from her saying "hey, where ya been blah blah blah". The funny thing? I read that right after I hooked up with a different girl who was asleep on my bed while I checked my facebook.

Fvck LDRs.

 

[Mando]

You really think she'll have an anxiety attack if you cut her out?

Do you know how many times all of us who have been here for a while have read "but she's a cool girl i'd like to keep around as a friend."??????????

Do you know how see-through that is.... You KNEW people were going to tell you to cut contact, leave this girl, NEXT, never talk to again, GFTOW (go fvck ten other women,) etc.... So you set up two barriers...

1) I made this promise to her to never cut contact with her...... And tell me Mando - what promise did she make to you? My man Franco said it best, "Women know nothing of honor."

They do not care if you honor your word or not. They just care if you make them horny; and you my friend - DO NOT do it for her. This other guy DOES. Maybe in a few months - she'll get tired of him and move on; and maybe your phone will ring.... And maybe you should answer it and say "i can't talk right now; this girl is giving my the best head i've ever gotten"...

2) She's really cool. I can just keep her as a friend.... SERIOUSLY, read other breakup threads around this board.... THEY ALMOST ALL SAY THIS SH!T and it's NONSENSE! You guys just KNOW what we're going to tell you... So you ask "how can i keep her as a friend without getting jealous?" instead of "how can i get her back?" Because you already know the answer to the 2nd one is us telling you YOU CAN'T!

YOU CAN'T
YOU CAN'T
YOU CAN'T

You could if you were someone else who really didn't care about this woman.

You're trying to be her knight and shining armor while she's sucking some other guys huge ****. This other guy who you've been afraid she'd end up with for a while.

I've been that other guy. And let me tell you - when i hear a woman say "my boyfriend doesn't like when i talk to you." or "my boyfriend thinks you want to fvck me and that's why you're friends with me" or "my boyfriend said if we ever break up im not allowed to date you." Or anything like that.... guess what? I know her pvssy is already wet for me... I know i can get her when the time is right...

There's NO REASON you should be honoring a statement you made to a woman who is no longer your girlfriend.
A woman who lives far away from you.
A woman who fvcks some other guy you dislike.
A woman who treats you nasty.

Fvck that! Go out and enjoy life and don't answer your phone when she calls... Don't text her... Don't visit her when you're in her town...

She's not going to kill herself
She's not going to have a heart attack
She's going to be fvcking some other guy with a huge c@ck

And loving it...

While you're stressing about it... Instead of sticking yours in someone else.

@ Bukowski- Harsh, but very true. I've been trying to get my mind off her, I deleted all forms of contact but I still know her number unfortunately. She texted me this morning to let me know her plans for the day for some reason, which kind of pissed me off since I don't really care if I'm not included, so I didn't respond. I've been out of the game for a few months as I said, so I don't quite feel confident enough yet to start approaching random girls around campus(although ones in classes would be easy, minus the fact that I'd switch from my normal every day seat to go sit next to them would be somewhat awkward :S--tips?). I'm going to be unresponsive and maybe she'll get the hint that she missed out and realize whats going on, and hopefully by then I'll already have someone else worth my time.

@ Ice- yes, this was never planned but I let it happen(once again, my fault). NEVER again will I do a long distance, I have trust issues as it is and it doesn't help that I have to worry about other guys hitting on the girl.

Thank you both for the advice, I'll try my best to put it into play. If you have any suggestions or comments on my post they're highly appreciated, thanks again.

 

[starplayer]

There has been some very good advice given to you in this thread. I hope you follow it.

Seriously do everything you can to move on from this girl. Go total No Contact. This isn't about getting her to realize what she's missing out on; this is about you getting over her.

Don't let her reel you back in either, because she will most likely try to string you along for as long as possible. Never go back to her.

Good luck.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

You can lead an AFC to SoSuave, but you can't make him THINK.

 

[bukowski_merit]

@ Bukowski- Harsh, but very true. I've been trying to get my mind off her, I deleted all forms of contact but I still know her number unfortunately. She texted me this morning to let me know her plans for the day for some reason, which kind of pissed me off since I don't really care if I'm not included, so I didn't respond. I've been out of the game for a few months as I said, so I don't quite feel confident enough yet to start approaching random girls around campus(although ones in classes would be easy, minus the fact that I'd switch from my normal every day seat to go sit next to them would be somewhat awkward :S--tips?). I'm going to be unresponsive and maybe she'll get the hint that she missed out and realize whats going on, and hopefully by then I'll already have someone else worth my time.

I know it's harsh, but it's really not a projection at you, but the overall slyness of the board these days. There's a lot of lurkers and people who know all the basics who come on here to post, and when they do they camouflage their story behind excuses and explanations. Everyone thinks their story is "that special case", and rarely RARELY is it anything but the same ol same.

I don't have a lot of tips to give about pick-up. You won't find me doing that around here. I do a lot of social circle pickups (through work and friends) and my rep with women and sexual vibe gets most of the women within minutes. How's your social circle? You live around campus? Try getting a job at a bar/club... women will approach you!

And don't count on her missing you. That's not really what happens. What happens is - her ego gets hurt from you suddenly moving on with life. This may cause her to believe she misses you - but if that was the case - if she took you back, then she's really treasure you. But the fact is, in almost all cases - when a woman breaks it off with a man and then moves on - if she comes back to him - she'll just get bored again.

Don't be fooled by her ego. It's most likely a desire for attention when the "i miss talking to you" texts start coming in.

In ********: I miss talking to you
means
"I miss the relentless attention you gave me no matter how bad i was treating you"

I have trust issues as it is and it doesn't help that I have to worry about other guys hitting on the girl.

This is a huge issue, and one almost all guys have to deal with. I have been with tons of women, and even I am not perfect when it comes to this (mostly because my faith in women is 0, due to my years of ****ing taken women with ease.)

The best way to combat this is to have many women yourself. I know it sounds simple. But whenever i only have 1 woman in my life; i care WAY TOO MUCH about trivial stuff like who might be flirting with her (i never bring it up though). I always try to keep at least 2 women; and prefer 3-4. You'd be surprised how much less you care about what they're doing when you do that. I know that sounds like a tall order for someone who's struggling to get over a girl... But you need to go for it... Or... learn to not care.

 

[Mando]

There has been some very good advice given to you in this thread. I hope you follow it.

Seriously do everything you can to move on from this girl. Go total No Contact. This isn't about getting her to realize what she's missing out on; this is about you getting over her.

Don't let her reel you back in either, because she will most likely try to string you along for as long as possible. Never go back to her.

Good luck.

Yeah I'm aware and I appreciate it A LOT, and am trying my best to stick to it. I'm done trying to make her realize what she's missing out on, I can't force it and if she can't realize it herself she's not worth my time. I'm worried about getting reeled back in but I'm prepared for it so I should see it coming.

I know it's harsh, but it's really not a projection at you, but the overall slyness of the board these days. There's a lot of lurkers and people who know all the basics who come on here to post, and when they do they camouflage their story behind excuses and explanations. Everyone thinks their story is "that special case", and rarely RARELY is it anything but the same ol same.

I don't have a lot of tips to give about pick-up. You won't find me doing that around here. I do a lot of social circle pickups (through work and friends) and my rep with women and sexual vibe gets most of the women within minutes. How's your social circle? You live around campus? Try getting a job at a bar/club... women will approach you!

And don't count on her missing you. That's not really what happens. What happens is - her ego gets hurt from you suddenly moving on with life. This may cause her to believe she misses you - but if that was the case - if she took you back, then she's really treasure you. But the fact is, in almost all cases - when a woman breaks it off with a man and then moves on - if she comes back to him - she'll just get bored again.

Don't be fooled by her ego. It's most likely a desire for attention when the "i miss talking to you" texts start coming in.

In ********: I miss talking to you
means
"I miss the relentless attention you gave me no matter how bad i was treating you"

As harsh as it may be I'm glad you said it because it helped a ton, so thanks for that. I've been here for a while but I didn't visit the site for a few months, so I'm aware of the people on here that make an excuse for everything and try to make their story "special". Sorry if I came off as someone like that, now that I read everything I posted I feel like a scrub(not only to you guys, but to myself as well) for trying to make excuses for her/myself.

To be honest my social circle has been pretty fvcked lately. I don't live on campus, so it's pretty hard for me to know whats going on around there all the time. Most of my friends moved away to different colleges that are too far for me to visit every weekend, and the friends by home are always busy with their girlfriends, and I HATE being third wheel. I'm looking around for a job but it's tough to find one right now. I've been relying on a faulty social circle for a while, which is why I'm starting to be dependent on making myself happy instead of depending on others to do it for me.

I have a feeling she will be hurt and say how she misses me, but you're right. She's going to miss all the attention she got from having someone that actually valued her and cared now that she's losing everyone. I'm going to try my best to hold to the no contact rule and who knows maybe I'll find someone worthwhile in the meantime.

This is a huge issue, and one almost all guys have to deal with. I have been with tons of women, and even I am not perfect when it comes to this (mostly because my faith in women is 0, due to my years of ****ing taken women with ease.)

The best way to combat this is to have many women yourself. I know it sounds simple. But whenever i only have 1 woman in my life; i care WAY TOO MUCH about trivial stuff like who might be flirting with her (i never bring it up though). I always try to keep at least 2 women; and prefer 3-4. You'd be surprised how much less you care about what they're doing when you do that. I know that sounds like a tall order for someone who's struggling to get over a girl... But you need to go for it... Or... learn to not care.

Yeah I'm well aware, my main problem is I actually call her out on it and it makes me look extremely insecure. It's going to be tough focusing on many women at a time, because I tend to just stick to one(one-itis, I know I know :/) at a time, but one of my friends who's extremely good with girls told me the same thing- keep your options open. I'll try to learn not to care, but who knows, I just hope I can get some good results out of this!

Thanks again guys, I appreciate it a lot.

 

[Mando]

Already starting to talk to another girl, maybe this'll be easier than I thought =]

She lives kinda far though, and as we know LDR's are hell. So I'll just keep her around as a friend and whenever she comes down here we can get together.

The no-contact is already speeding up the forgetting her process, although she hasn't called yet.