Young Stallion
Don Juan
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This I believe is the evolution of what a beginner goes through until they truly become great with women and people in general.
My title will become clear as you read further.
1. You are a beginner, chances are you are not confident, have had alot of rejection in your life and are now insecure. This insecurity turns you into a nice guy because the basis of your present actions are based on your past.
2. You start reading the internet and learn about this phenomenon called "Jerks" vs "Nice Guys" You read all the dating material you can possibly find and eventually stumble on David D'Angelo's Double Your Dating.
3. You read this with immense anticipation as well as all the other articles you can find, you start to hate it when you read advice from women because they preach play nice when your life and what you read tells you to play bad.
4. You learn about game and being a badboy and start posting on forums, perhaps its Sosuave, perhaps its Askmen...you like Sosuave alot more though because you were intrigued by the DJ Bible and did not like all the women posting on askmen telling you to confess your feelings.
5. You start to practice theory on women and fail miserabley, some people think your creepy, some people think you are a poser...but you keep doing it because practice makes permanent....errrr perfect.
6. You start to obsess about the nice guy vs jerk phenomenon and notice that most jerks are also well built and put together...in fact some of the jerks arent jerks at all, just real men.
7. You hit the gym and work out and get bigger and stronger...you like the new physical you but something is missing. Sure you get more attention from women, but you are friendzoned alot because of your actions. More research needed.
8. You start to question yourself as a man and start to read books about what it means to be a man, perhaps you read "Alpha Confidence" and it opens your eyes.
9. You practice on more women, eventually you start to see results because you now have a physical presence and also have learned through your readings that women like outgoing guys who tease them all the time who are also laid back and confident.
10. The more you learn, the more you learn that "game" is for people who are starting out and need....well confidence and "game", you recognize "game" is a crutch until you get to where you are eventually headed.
11. You start to notice that alot of these "Jerks" out there are not really "jerks", but real men who look the part and act the part and know how to deal with people....people skills!
12. You begin reading books on people skills, while maintainig your working out and perhaps even start tanning. You become a connessoure of books like Ultimate Leadership, Executive Charisma, Supreme Confidence, The Art Of War, Body Language books, How To Win Friends and Influence People The Power Within and other books that teach you how to read people, motivate people and make people want to be around you.
13. You start to learn that women want men who make them feel good about themselves, not through beta male acts like flowers and all of that, but through joking around with them, being confident enough to know what to say and how to say it.
14. Eventually you want your personality to get to a point where "game" and "rules" are none existant and you can stand on your own two feet as the charismatic, confident man you are and have learned to be. You realize that corny pickup lines and game have a time and a place, but your physical self and personality self are now to a point where you do not need to rely on these cruches anymore.
15. The core fundamentals of your personality should eventually develop to a point where you are not doing this for girls, your actions are you in every action you take during every day of your life.
16. You feel that you now know how to pick women who will be attracted to you and you know exactly how to treat them in a way that will make them want you back. You can do this without even thinking now, it just happens and when you feel like talking to a girl, you just do it because that is just who you are.
I believe that this is the timeline of what a person goes through on their quest to better themselves with women and people in general.
For some people it does not take that long, for me it took about 9 years to get to where I am at now.
Let me know what you think.
My title will become clear as you read further.
1. You are a beginner, chances are you are not confident, have had alot of rejection in your life and are now insecure. This insecurity turns you into a nice guy because the basis of your present actions are based on your past.
2. You start reading the internet and learn about this phenomenon called "Jerks" vs "Nice Guys" You read all the dating material you can possibly find and eventually stumble on David D'Angelo's Double Your Dating.
3. You read this with immense anticipation as well as all the other articles you can find, you start to hate it when you read advice from women because they preach play nice when your life and what you read tells you to play bad.
4. You learn about game and being a badboy and start posting on forums, perhaps its Sosuave, perhaps its Askmen...you like Sosuave alot more though because you were intrigued by the DJ Bible and did not like all the women posting on askmen telling you to confess your feelings.
5. You start to practice theory on women and fail miserabley, some people think your creepy, some people think you are a poser...but you keep doing it because practice makes permanent....errrr perfect.
6. You start to obsess about the nice guy vs jerk phenomenon and notice that most jerks are also well built and put together...in fact some of the jerks arent jerks at all, just real men.
7. You hit the gym and work out and get bigger and stronger...you like the new physical you but something is missing. Sure you get more attention from women, but you are friendzoned alot because of your actions. More research needed.
8. You start to question yourself as a man and start to read books about what it means to be a man, perhaps you read "Alpha Confidence" and it opens your eyes.
9. You practice on more women, eventually you start to see results because you now have a physical presence and also have learned through your readings that women like outgoing guys who tease them all the time who are also laid back and confident.
10. The more you learn, the more you learn that "game" is for people who are starting out and need....well confidence and "game", you recognize "game" is a crutch until you get to where you are eventually headed.
11. You start to notice that alot of these "Jerks" out there are not really "jerks", but real men who look the part and act the part and know how to deal with people....people skills!
12. You begin reading books on people skills, while maintainig your working out and perhaps even start tanning. You become a connessoure of books like Ultimate Leadership, Executive Charisma, Supreme Confidence, The Art Of War, Body Language books, How To Win Friends and Influence People The Power Within and other books that teach you how to read people, motivate people and make people want to be around you.
13. You start to learn that women want men who make them feel good about themselves, not through beta male acts like flowers and all of that, but through joking around with them, being confident enough to know what to say and how to say it.
14. Eventually you want your personality to get to a point where "game" and "rules" are none existant and you can stand on your own two feet as the charismatic, confident man you are and have learned to be. You realize that corny pickup lines and game have a time and a place, but your physical self and personality self are now to a point where you do not need to rely on these cruches anymore.
15. The core fundamentals of your personality should eventually develop to a point where you are not doing this for girls, your actions are you in every action you take during every day of your life.
16. You feel that you now know how to pick women who will be attracted to you and you know exactly how to treat them in a way that will make them want you back. You can do this without even thinking now, it just happens and when you feel like talking to a girl, you just do it because that is just who you are.
I believe that this is the timeline of what a person goes through on their quest to better themselves with women and people in general.
For some people it does not take that long, for me it took about 9 years to get to where I am at now.
Let me know what you think.
