Evidence that David DeAngelo's testmonials are faked

[Brainbuster]

I bought the Kaplinski ebook and found this very good.

What ebook are you referring to?

 

[Brainbuster]

Just my two cents, with some hard evidence:

A few years back I signed up for Textbroker.com,
where freelance writers make a few bucks for writing,
and where people who want an article or something written
can hire a freelance writer.

I signed up as a writer.
One of the jobs posted was to edit a few hundred words.

Unfortunately, I can't recall exactly what was asked of me, the prospective writer.
It was years ago. I think the person hiring was asking to edit or revise the paragraphs,
and had some specifications or requests.

I did not get that job, probably because I had just signed up,
and competition for writing gigs was tough.

However, I was amazed that I recognized it was
the David DeAngelo newsletter that I had subscribed to years ago
(and I used to read that all the time).

I'm not sure what to make of it.
It doesn't necessarily prove that all the letters were fake,
though I did feel disenchanted when I saw that gig,
since I was under the impression that DD was a one-man show,
and all the newsletters and responses were done by him alone.
But realistically, that many newsletters a week,
plus all his other areas of focus, is probably way too much busy-work for one man.

Even if they were all 100% fake, this still would not discredit DD entirely.
His book is one of the most well-reviewed books on dating.
Even if DD sucked with women, that still wouldn't entirely disprove his teaching.
What's most important is to look at his students, not the teacher.

If it were discovered that the testimonials were fake,
the most damaging thing about this is false hope,
because some of the men writing in had remarkable success stories,
and that's mostly all you hear about.
However, with my current experience now,
I am NOT skeptical of most remarkable stories I hear
from men about seducing women--despite the tendency of men
to exaggerate or even delude themselves.
For example, I could tell you that I pulled a girl home from Starbucks
within 15 minutes of meeting her (true),
and if I were you, I probably wouldn't have believed it.
After that notch, I asked myself what "technique" did I use
to accomplish such a "feat."
The only answer was "leading." That's all I could think of.
I had just been rejected by another woman in that same starbucks
2 minutes prior. I had approached well over a hundred women that summer.
It certainly wasn't my "pickup line," which was simply sitting down next to her and saying,
"I like your lipstick."
I don't recall any smooth game at all.
But after 15 minutes, I said, "Let's get out of here," half-joking,
and she said, "Your place or mine." So it was simply massive action + girl was ready.
Not saying believe everything every guy tells you,
but you'd be wrong if you believe that women don't want to ****.

Anyway, I've gotten off topic.
What we know about Eben Pagan (David DeAngelo)
is that he is one of the most successful internet marketers in the world.
He's now a multi-millionaire.

C+F is not the end-all, be-all (and DD himself has made this clear--
he has said that it's only a tool in your toolbox),
but you CAN go very far with it (and it's also easy to do it poorly).
Most of the "lines" that top puas use over and over,
regardless of their school or system, goes back to C+F.

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I would also add my opinion that DD is NOT a good public speaker.
He never gestures, his inflection is monotone,
he repeats himself, almost word-for-word, constantly,
sometimes saying the same thing 3 times.
And 50% of his "speeches" are just him reading from someone else's book,
or basically listing a bibliography for you to go read
(fascinating reading, sure, but most of it will not help your game;
e.g., The Art of Seduction, Sperm Wars, Red Queen).