Everything went perfect. And now I am on her black list?

[Amazing]

Yeah you are probably right, I mean her interest really is the only thing that matters.. but look at the pros list i posted, I got blinded by such a good time and her having fun with me I assumed it was ATTRACTION instead of FUN TIME.


I guess fun time for a girl isn't always i want to do him time.. although they are usually close.


BB, decent advice but I did what you did with your fiance, I dont have a rulebook or checklist I went with the flow.



Whatever, I'm pretty much over her. Bring on the weekend

 

[jophil28]

During the night she says she is a good girl, never smoked cigs or weed, she is 25 you are too. At one point in the night you tell your friend (who drove) to leave and then pretend he left you there with her, and you ask "you busy tomorrow? can we spend the night at your place?" to which she says "i can't, im a good girl, i dont know you yet!"

A couple of points-

"I am a good girl " is woman-speek for , "You are not gonna fukk me tonight".
She told you that during the night, but you missed the signal. So later, you asked if you could spend the night at her place, to which she reiterated that she is a "good girl " - same message...no nookie.

During the next day, and before you called her, two things probably happened . Her hormonal response to you waned because you were not around, and she also had plenty of time to convince herself that you are just wanting her body for some quick sex.
Her self protection kicked in, and so she did not pickup your calls.

Secondly, I have long suspected that one factor at work in a woman's reluctance to sleep with a new guy quickly is her need to feel that she has played a significant part in shaping and creating this new relationship. Women seem to believe that they "own" the "getting to know you" process in many ways. They also appear to believe that men are incompetent and insensitive to the way a "real" relationship should take form ..

BY pushing too hard, and accelerating too early, you may be robbing her of her feelings of satisfaction that come from "playing her part" .

Just my .02c

 

[squirrels]

Err...this one I might've considered waiting the 3-days.

She was probably out partying, drinking, whatever...you call her the next morning and she's hung over and feeling the "let-down" of last night's outing.

You call then, it's like, "Ehh just go away for a while".

Or maybe she DID block the number...who knows? I've gotten girls' numbers and then deleted them out of my phone as soon as I left the bar. I can't explain why...some of them were fine women, I just didn't feel enough of a connection to call them again. Could be a neurosis, could be self-esteem...could be you were just flavor-of-the-evening.

Or for all you know, she has a boyfriend. That's probably what happened with catman's "p!ssing G-spot girl". Could've been the same with yours. She came "back to her senses" the next morning and decided that she didn't want to "risk her relationship".

Or...for all you know, her cellphone battery went dead. Or she "ran out of minutes". Then when she re-ups on Monday, there's three calls and a text from you...how's THAT look?

Call, leave message. If she's interested, she will call you back. Stop spazzing. You just met her...and you kiss-closed. You're doing all-right.

If she truly is clowning you, she's not worth your time. This is where you need other numbers to ring down to.

 

[Amazing]

A couple of points-

"I am a good girl " is woman-speek for , "You are not gonna fukk me tonight".
She told you that during the night, but you missed the signal. So later, you asked if you could spend the night at her place, to which she reiterated that she is a "good girl " - same message...no nookie.

During the next day, and before you called her, two things probably happened . Her hormonal response to you waned because you were not around, and she also had plenty of time to convince herself that you are just wanting her body for some quick sex.
Her self protection kicked in, and so she did not pickup your calls.

Secondly, I have long suspected that one factor at work in a woman's reluctance to sleep with a new guy quickly is her need to feel that she has played a significant part in shaping and creating this new relationship. Women seem to believe that they "own" the "getting to know you" process in many ways. They also appear to believe that men are incompetent and insensitive to the way a "real" relationship should take form ..

BY pushing too hard, and accelerating too early, you may be robbing her of her feelings of satisfaction that come from "playing her part" .

Just my .02c

I really like this, and I think you might be onto something here. So what is the best way to do it - play hard to get so she feels like she worked for it? It's not quite that, and YOU are the one who does the decision making at first, so where does she shape it?


squirells-
like i said, phone number was most likely BLOCKED, no answer machine. I called the next day because I felt like it, I am pretty sure she was single since they were celebrating both of them (2 girls) being single. She wasn't hungover since we didn't have too many drinks.




FUUUUU she had an amazing rack though. and she did 6 days of squats so DAT ASS. plus personalities clicked so it was WIN. easy to see why I was sweating her

 

[jophil28]

So what is the best way to do it - play hard to get so she feels like she worked for it? It's not quite that, and YOU are the one who does the decision making at first, so where does she shape it?

If there were no drugs or booze involved, then I would have heard what she told me ("I'm a good girl" ) and adapted my method accordingly. She also told you that she does not feel the required level of safety and comfort with you yet (" I don't know you yet ..." )

Some women will NEVER fukk anyone on the first night or even second night, NEVER, EVER - inspite of what the PUA folks will tell you.

Many women have personal protective rules for the use of their bodies just like Clint Eastwood had for his Gran Torino.

 

[Amazing]

I get all that. Make a guy wait, get to know him more, that's fine. But don't block his number right away...

Whatever, I guess some humble pie is good once in awhile. I remember about 6-7 years back I'd get the "Can I call you right back?" once in awhile. Just another thing to learn from.

 

[Young Juan]

I had almost the exact same thing this past weekend. Made out at the club, got a lap dance, titty play, etc. She was with her brother and friends, recently divorced, yet had a boyfriend in another state. She didn't come home but set up something for the next day that night.

We were supposed to meet up at a certain place/time. I called once, texted once, no answer, no reply, deleted number. She hadn't earned any strikes in my book to lose yet. I don't know the reason, but I really don't care as it's not my loss and she ain't my only.

I don't chase em, I replace em.

 

[Amazing]

So I ****ed a girl today, I am not sure if it made it any better. I am over that one, but I still want to **** her and get to know her. My buddy is telling me there is very little chance she'd block my number in 12-13 hours after a night we had.. it makes no sense.

i almost agree, unless she is very logical and cuts things at the root - and I rarely meet people like this, yet alone girls.

 

[jophil28]

My buddy is telling me there is very little chance she'd block my number in 12-13 hours after a night we had.. it makes no sense.

i almost agree, unless she is very logical and cuts things at the root - and I rarely meet people like this, yet alone girls.

She did indeed "cut things at the root". Why? because you pursued her for sex OVERTLY after she told you, COVERTLY but firmly, that she was not going to have sex with you.
That was your tactical blunder I'm afraid to say, and it was enough for her go cold.

Look, if she wanted to see you again she would have made herself accessible and available .

NO Contact by a woman after a "fun" night like you had is a kissoff.

 

[princelydeeds]

The whole you didn't say this, should have said that, should not have said this argument is ALL TRUE!! The other side of the coin is that you could have done/ said everything right and that could be the problem too. Do you know how many times I had women say things like, "you are so perfect, I don't know why you would be interested in me, I don't have XYZ so i know you wouldn't be interested in me long term" (and they were usually right). Women are crazy and have all kinds of issues going on in their heads. It really isn't always you, it is usually her and her issues/baggage/inner crazy.

YOU DO NOT NEED CLOSURE, you will probably never know what truly happened. If you do manage to hunt down an EXCUSE, the excuse given and the actual REASON for her not calling will probably be miles apart. If you try to force her to give you a reason, i guarantee her EXCUSE will be that you put too much pressure on her. If the real reason is that she isn't over the married, bad boy she's been banging for the last 3 years, she isn't going to tell you the truth, so why waste time even trying to know.

MY advice is to let it go, I cannot begin to tell you the number of times some crazy stuff like this has happened to me. What's great about life is you will probably see her again. If you play it cool and don't have her thinking you are crazy, you will probably get another chance. You already know she isn't all together so chalk it up to the game. Spin your plates keep it moving.