EVERYTHING a man needs to know about women

[TheException]

Of course their actions are manipulative. Every action has a motive. You say the motive is biology, and I don't disagree

Every action does have a motive, but its not manipulative. When you say manipulative you are implying that their actions are done for "selfishness" or "evil" reasons. You need to come to terms with the female as a creature....you are the kind of person that would label the lion's biological desire to perform infanticide as evil.

Go out and live life before you come here and lecture grown men.

I suppose I should be the ripe old age of 26 to qualify as "grown men". Age is but a number my friend, it has nothing to do with experience. And acting as if sleeping with 6 females or standing up for PlayHerMan(hes a big boy, he holds his own just fine) gives you some divine qualification to give your almighty wisdom is humorous.

 

[MillionBillionaire]

Quality post, PlayerHerMan....

Two things in response.

In the first part, the narrator advises a man always ask himself what a woman's goals, interests, objectives might be when she initiates any sort of interaction with you. That's good advice. Just last night I was at a party and a woman I tried to game a bit last year was there. When I was trying to get with her, she played dirty pool, you know, lousy girl game. She was not honest about her relationship status when I tried to get her out, played coy, etc. I walked away after my second attempt, as is usually advised here and to which I agree. Anyway, she, to my mind, doesn't know what I know about the extent of her dishonesty in her interactions with me last year. But I think (1) she worries that I do or might know (and if I do, she's worried that I think she's a lying POS) and/or (2) realizes she misread my value and wants to keep open channels of pleasant interactions in case her relationship with new BF goes south. Women branch swing, don't ya know....

Anyway, my point to the little set up above is last night she sees me in a room at this party and comes up for a friendly, meaningless chat. I read it as her trying to show me she's a good person, trying to maintain an amiable ambiance with me those times we show up at the same functions. I gave her about 30 seconds of my time, cracked and joke and walked away. What I would like to point out here, and this is iterated in the video and by experienced posters on this forum, is that a woman almost ALWAYS has some sort of motive, some hidden, indirect, but goal-oriented reason she initiates interaction with a guy. In this case, there was nothing self-less or neutral about it. She either wants me to think well of her and/or wants to make sure our interactions are positive in case she needs to find another man. What she doesn't know I've already made my judgment about her: low quality woman surrounded by a veneer of hotness. I'll pass.

The second point the video makes I think all guys will do well to remember and newbies and perpetual AFCs would be especially advised to listen to. That is, a woman, once she's gotten her man, will do what she can to change him. Isolate him from friends. Criticize his likes and hobbies. Get him to do things with her he wouldn't normally do. Etc.

These are predictable but crucial sh!t-test many guys fail. She doesn't actually want you to change; or, should I say, should you change the way she pushes you too, she'll soon lose attraction and dump you. Her attempts to mold you are her ways to figure out whether or not the guy she thought she was attracted to is the "real" you.

The women who've fallen for me the hardest, ones who've either continued to chase me, or happily became side-pieces, FBs, and whatnot, are the women that I simply refused to bend one iota for. Oh, you want to take me to NYC? Great, but there's no way I'm going to a Broadway musical with you and your kid. I'll be at the bar watching the NCAA tournament. Meet me there when you're finished (true story). Oh, you want me to text you later tonight after banging you so I can have you show up with your long-term cuckhold BF and see that he's a real cool guy? I can't imagine why I'd do that. See you for our nooner next week (another girl, another true story).

You know that stereotype of the defeated husband, the "yes dear" guy? He's a guy who tried to please his wife by doing what she said she wanted and she only grew more resentful, naggy, harridan, etc. over time and he's lost to figure out what happened. By the time he realizes he's miserable and she'll never be happy (because of his beta backsliding and lack of frame), it is usually 10+ years, a few kids and a mortgage into the relationship and he feels "stuck." Meanwhile, she's banging her tennis instructor at lunch.

We all like sex. Many of us would like a good relationship with a good woman. But those latter things don't just "happen" and there's 1000 landmines waiting to trip you up. The belief that a woman openly shows a man her cards at anytime is one of the worst assumptions a man can make.

Whether or not the pursuit of anything other than sex is worth it is a decision every man must make. However, to make that decision well requires one know as much as possible about the "enemy." Thus, the art of war. Finally, keep in mind Beige Phillip's rule #1... we are in fact at war. Adjust your game accordingly.

Quoted For Truth :woo:

 

[PlayHer Man]

And who do you think allow themselves to become "whipped" in relationships? Chumps do.

You're a real pain in the ass because you argue like a woman.

Listen.. its not about "allowing" yourself to be manipulated.. its about being educated and wise enough to know manipulation when you see it. That is what the video I posted is about moron. :crazy:

Well thats just it isnt it? Should a woman's behavior change just because she enters a relationship with you? I argue no. If you remain alpha and dont turn into a slobbering idiot she will treat you the same as when you were dating non-exclusive. She will still be afraid of losing you....even though she has you. The men who get "manipulated" in relationships are pvssy men who ALLOW THEMSELVES to get bossed around and taken advantage of. The way the man acts has a direct correlation to have the woman behaves...

This is a massive half-truth. George Clooney and you can act exactly the same around a woman but the women will not treat you the same. You would know this if you had any idea what you are talking about. BUT YOU DON'T. :crazy:

Id say that women are socially more adept than men, but it has nothing to do with "power". Women DO NOT WANT TO BE THE ONE WITH POWER.

I guess that's why they started feminism right? So they can have even LESS power. Right? :crackup: :crackup:

Good God you're dense.

They want a man to be the powerful one and for them to "serve" him. Its funny....they dont even want to be the one's to make a choice about where to go for dinner...and you think they want to rule men.

They don't want to rule men right out the gate. They want a man who is hard to seduce so that other women can't easily steal him away. They want security and you only get security when you have control.

Moron. :crazy:

Again....men only call it manipulation where they do not understand.

YOU are the only one who "doesn't understand".

Another youtube source....are they paying you to promote their website?

So because its on Youtube its automatically bullsh!t? What I posted was a WOMAN admitting women purposefully manipulate men. What is your response to this?

 

[JohnChops]

That's why we need to get as many men to this site as we possibly can.

Now let me tell you why this is hard as hell to do. When you have guys who don't want to change and blame everything on "genetics" or because htey were born this way, bringing them to this site wont do a damn thing unless they want to change themselves.

Then you have the guys who are so deep into the friendzone with many women and then they show them this site.

Maybe out of the 20-30 people you show this site to, only 3-5 will take the info here and apply it in their lives.

Sad, but it is true. People don't want the truth, they are scared of it. People want to get under the veil of their own ignorance and believe whatever they want to believe that will make everything less painful in their life.

It is easy to place the blame on something like genetics because you were "born that way" and you have no control of it. When you place the blame on something you have 100% control over, such as a weight problem, then people start to feel down on themselves and don't do a damn thing about their issue. They just grovel in their own self pity.

 

[JoeMarron]

I guess that's why they started feminism right? So they can have even LESS power. Right?

What's that term that t!ts loves to use so much.."moustached femcunts." We can't use female anomalies in an argument about women wanting power.

They don't want to rule men right out the gate. They want a man who is hard to seduce so that other women can't easily steal him away. They want security and you only get security when you have control.

Women are parodoxical creatures. They fight for power only to be unsatisfied when they get it. If women truly wanted power then there would be happy marriages all over the place. No sane woman would take a relationship with complete security and power over one with a man that she can respect. If they truly wanted power then they wouldn't spend millions a year on romance novels where the man is dominant. They may fight for power, they may honestly admit to manipulating a man to get what they want but at the end of the day it's a battle they don't want to win. However, admittedly this argument is pointless. It doesn't matter if women want power or if they manipulate subconsciously or consciously. All that matters is knowing how to deal with manipulation when it comes up.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Now let me tell you why this is hard as hell to do. When you have guys who don't want to change and blame everything on "genetics" or because htey were born this way, bringing them to this site wont do a damn thing unless they want to change themselves.

Then you have the guys who are so deep into the friendzone with many women and then they show them this site.

Maybe out of the 20-30 people you show this site to, only 3-5 will take the info here and apply it in their lives.

Sad, but it is true. People don't want the truth, they are scared of it. People want to get under the veil of their own ignorance and believe whatever they want to believe that will make everything less painful in their life.

It is easy to place the blame on something like genetics because you were "born that way" and you have no control of it. When you place the blame on something you have 100% control over, such as a weight problem, then people start to feel down on themselves and don't do a damn thing about their issue. They just grovel in their own self pity.

I'm thinking of the comments I see on YouTube and other sites, all saying essentially "Last year I was a chump (AFC, whatever), until I finally realized the truth. God, I wish I knew this sooner"...

There is currently an explosion of men for whom the light is being turned on. These are the guys who are ready to swallow the red pill. By putting SS in our signatures and publicizing the community, many of them will respond and end up here.

Many more are starting to intuit that something is dreadfully wrong and although they can't define it, they are ripe for responding to the possibility that they can be educated on what's really going on.

That's why I say t spread the word. Every day more an more are joining the ranks of enlightenment. Why not facilitate the flow, is what I say.

 

[TheException]

This right here is the best summation of both the root of the problem discussed in this thread and the solution. Men's behaviour is the cure and the cause to women's "manipulative" tendencies.

And to be honest, what you guys see as "manipulative" is IMO simply women pursuing their own self interest and employing the best methods to optimise their own hypergamy.

If both sexes pursued their own self interest then eventually one side would have to submit. Alphas don't compromise. Submit or watch as I leave you in an instant and forget you in the next

That's the issue. It's men that allow themselves to be willingly placed in chains.

You get it...

 

[_sideways_]

What's that term that t!ts loves to use so much.."moustached femcunts." We can't use female anomalies in an argument about women wanting power.



Women are parodoxical creatures. They fight for power only to be unsatisfied when they get it. If women truly wanted power then there would be happy marriages all over the place. No sane woman would take a relationship with complete security and power over one with a man that she can respect. If they truly wanted power then they wouldn't spend millions a year on romance novels where the man is dominant. They may fight for power, they may honestly admit to manipulating a man to get what they want but at the end of the day it's a battle they don't want to win. However, admittedly this argument is pointless. It doesn't matter if women want power or if they manipulate subconsciously or consciously. All that matters is knowing how to deal with manipulation when it comes up.

It's a game they like to play.....they just want ur attention and want you to come out on top always. It's like me playing chess with my kid brother....I talk a lot of shyt, but I want him to win because I really don't care. His accomplishment is more satisfying than me beating some kid at some board game. But we have fun.

 

[PlayHer Man]

You get it...

He does get it.

You don't. :crackup:

 

[PeasantPlayer]

What is the red pill exactly? I swallowed it, but I feel like I am still missing something?

 

[TheException]

He does get it.

You don't. :crackup:

Probably shouldnt be saying this...when he is quoting me. Doesnt make you look good.

 

[Syrio]

There is a lot of truth to what is said in this video, but honestly, it's nothing new and nothing meaningful... nor is it even anything specific to females. This is a post about how people in general are manipulative and scummy. Sure, it's probably true that a lot of the things mentioned here apply more to women than men, but men have different vices that are just as bad.

You can whine and complain about women all you want and argue that they are inferior to men, but the same arguments can be made of men just as easily. The truth that is found here is that PEOPLE are sh1tty, not just women. This post is misleading as it portrays one side of an argument (men vs women) that is stupid and shouldn't even be happening, plus it shouldn't be teaching anybody anything new. Most of the things said in that video are sweeping generalizations that might be true for a large number of women but are definitely not true of all.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Probably shouldnt be saying this...when he is quoting me. Doesnt make you look good.

What he said and what you said are not the same thing jackass.

Read between the lines.

Also.. why don't you respond to the questions I asked you above bro.

There is a lot of truth to what is said in this video, but honestly, it's nothing new and nothing meaningful... nor is it even anything specific to females. This is a post about how people in general are manipulative and scummy. Sure, it's probably true that a lot of the things mentioned here apply more to women than men, but men have different vices that are just as bad.

You can whine and complain about women all you want and argue that they are inferior to men, but the same arguments can be made of men just as easily. The truth that is found here is that PEOPLE are sh1tty, not just women. This post is misleading as it portrays one side of an argument (men vs women) that is stupid and shouldn't even be happening, plus it shouldn't be teaching anybody anything new. Most of the things said in that video are sweeping generalizations that might be true for a large number of women but are definitely not true of all.

Is anyone here concerned about dating men?

 

[VikingKing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZyZKzmgs08

 

[TheException]

What he said and what you said are not the same thing jackass.

Read between the lines.

Read between the lines? Why you wanna be a punk about this? Everyone can read....he quoted my reply and said "its the best summation on this thread". Not that I care, what he thinks about it, but the point is you are literally embarrassing yourself. And furthermore I agree with his entire reply:

Alpha man = woman walking on eggshells scared to displease her man. Has lots of sex to reinforce herself as a benefit to the man

Chump = fails women sh1t tests. Woman's attraction declines...more and more sh1t tests appear and then she leaves the chump. And this gets called manipulative? No its simply biology's way of reinforcing female hypergamy.

^^^^^^^^^

This right here is the best summation of both the root of the problem discussed in this thread and the solution. Men's behaviour is the cure and the cause to women's "manipulative" tendencies.

And to be honest, what you guys see as "manipulative" is IMO simply women pursuing their own self interest and employing the best methods to optimise their own hypergamy.

If both sexes pursued their own self interest then eventually one side would have to submit. Alphas don't compromise. Submit or watch as I leave you in an instant and forget you in the next

That's the issue. It's men that allow themselves to be willingly placed in chains.

Its EXACTLY what I said:
-You and other posters are confusing "manipulative" with actions influenced by hypergamy.
-Man's behavior is the cause
-Men allow themselves to become whipped.

Cant paint it much more clearer for you than that pal.

Also.. why don't you respond to the questions I asked you above bro.

Which ones?

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I say women are only good for sex and reproduction all the time. Why do I say this? There are still many men who believe this is an extreme and bitter stance to take. With 2014 coming its time to take that next step in enlightenment gentlemen.....

Are women still frustrating you? Its because you are ignorant. But you won't be after reading this post and clicking the link at the end.

We as men often spend so much of our time chasing p*ssy that we fail to truly grasp what is REALLY happening in all our interactions with women. This is why the average men finds women so "confusing" and "frustrating" to deal with. But these problems are the result of ignorance.

Every DJ and alpha should have this information.. but the beta fags need it more than anyone else.

I believe 100% of men on the planet need to listen to this at least once. Anyone too lazy or impatient to participate should just marry the first chubby feminist c*nt or gold digger they see and have a nice life. :rock:

I present to you one of the purest, rawest and most concentrated forms of the red pill.. Listen --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6SHOTHW92I

AMEN!!!!!!

 

[PlayHer Man]

Read between the lines? Why you wanna be a punk about this? Everyone can read....he quoted my reply and said "its the best summation on this thread". Not that I care, what he thinks about it, but the point is you are literally embarrassing yourself. And furthermore I agree with his entire reply:

Its EXACTLY what I said:
-You and other posters are confusing "manipulative" with actions influenced by hypergamy.
-Man's behavior is the cause
-Men allow themselves to become whipped.

Cant paint it much more clearer for you than that pal.


Which ones?

I guess you can't read after all. I refuse to repeat myself when the thread is posted clear as day. Look for "question marks" idiot. :crazy: That's how you find questions. :crackup:

Women openly admit to manipulating men and I posted a video as proof. I ask you to respond to that and you avoided it.

 

[Wolfbones]

PHM why even bother wasting your time on him if he's being hard headed

 

[PlayHer Man]

PHM why even bother wasting your time on him if he's being hard headed

Its not for him. Its for all the AFC men reading this site and trying to gain wisdom and improve themselves. I don't want them to waste precious time buying into the Dr. Phil drivel TheException is spreading here.

The idea that men are 100% responsible for everything that goes on in a sexual relationship is too absurd of an idea to be taken seriously. Women have brains and self-awareness too. They are not just mindless drones reacting to what men do :crazy: . People need to see how idiotic his claims really are (if they don't already).

 

[dasein]

While I agree with the premises raised by OP and in the video, I also think it's important to realize we are very much in technological hyperacceleration that has blessed and cursed us as transitional generations. For example, I see the most overtly manipulative female behavior in women born in the 30s through the 60s, the rawest femcvnts IME, and it seems to tail off rapidly after that with some cultural holdouts. Won't go into possible causes for this. Those old 50-60 something Marxist mememe *****s in academia and media still have strong influence on the impressionable, weakminded young, which causes ripples through the unintelligent left side of the female intelligence bell curve, but their "oomph" is fading rapidly, and terminally so among brighter younger women in the U.S IME.

Many very young women and recent postadolescents I meet, children of family and friends, are functioning along different gender relations lines and seem better, more honest people overall than the women of my generation and the ones immediately preceding and subsequent. I don't see so many young women getting what they want by working Daddy or other men in the way that paradigm played out for ages prior and even in my own life in the past. Frankly I don't see lots of intentional manipulation in those younger women I meet these days. Things are much more straightforward with them, so I think the transition may be playing out into "who knows what comes next?"

I also believe that younger men are more prone to misinterpret the massive sexual power imbalance possessed by young fertile women through human history to date as "manipulation" unduly sometimes (though there is plenty of legitimately identifiable manipulation of men by women). Just because one feels "compelled" doesn't follow that one is necessarily being intentionally manipulated.

Admittedly, am optimistic about this, as there is really nowhere but up to go where the general quality of women in the U.S. and industrialized West are concerned. Hope my optimism is not misplaced and that we exit the transitional phase soon. There is tons of antifeminist backlash out there by women signifying we may be growing a better crop of them for the future.