Everyone Is Hoping You Fail

[ebracer05]

It's true in a lot of cases that people want you to fail, as Bethem and Floyd pointed out, why in the world would you keep those people in your company? We have a choice in the people we keep as friends and in the social circle(s) we associate with. I really don't believe that everyone carte blanche wants us to fail. Actually, I think more than people want us to fail, as the OP mentioned in Roosh V's original post, people get jealous. Like St_99 said, didn't any former AFC's out there ever get jealous when we couldn't get girls or pretty girls, and we had friends who could? I don't know if I ever wished outright failure on my friends, but it did p*ss me off quite a bit and imbue quite a bit of jealousy.

The difference between now and then is then I would get upset and become angry at either other people or "life" because I wasn't getting what I wanted. Now, I direct those negative feelings in more helpful directions. If I am upset because I don't have a girl, I don't lambaste life or people I know who have a girl, I look at my life as objectively as possible and determine what I can change to derive the outcome I want.

There are varying degrees of jealousy and not all of them involve wishing failure on someone you supposedly care about. The more extreme cases do, but I think most cases are more mild and have a tendency just to p*ss people off.

What we should really be talking about here is not that people all secretly hope we fail... guys, the real message is that legit friends are a very rare find! Most of the guys we know are fair weather friends and will leave us the instant one of their competing interests gets in the way of our friendship. When you have a population of people that place their own self-centerdness so far above their commitments to loyalty and higher order concepts like friendship, this is what you get. I don't think it's a function of people wanting us to fail at all, more a function of

People failing to accept responsibility for their situation

and

People's failure to understand a commitment to issues of principles that transcend themselves, like true friendship and loyalty.

 

[SoSuave666]

I don't want people to fail. I would just prefer they were not as successful as I.

 

[coochieman]

Glad to see y'all see what's going on.

"the only people on this planet who truly give a $hit about you are your parents, and that's if you're LUCKY"........ Very well said Mr.btownbuck2012.

Up to us to give 'em sh!t to eat. Aim for great heights. Mama always tells me "Don't ever let anybody ever tell you that you aren't capable".

Makes me wonder, cos I don't comprehend when people playa-hate. They gossip like girls and I'm amused with disgust. You see a stunna that has/is workin' hard for his success and all you can do is come up with excuses, reasons why he shouldn't be that successful or why he's not that much of a great person as people think.

People should mind their fucckin biznesses and improve. But they don't just get it.

People are just sick. Don't ever playa-hate, it is a crime. I feel its OK not to be concerned by somebody else and his business, but to start bad-mouthing the person is nothing but plain-insecurity.

 

[Rubirosa]

Nice post, but I hope it wasn't plagerized from the Book of Pook's last chapter entitiled "Endure"

 

[SharinganUser]

There is an old Japanese parable that when you leave your house every morning, you face a thousand enemies.

 

[crossedup]

This is so true. I recently confided in a friend that I believed I could trust that I had finally quit looking at porn and I was using meditation as a way to feel better about myself. This douchebag then posts the very private text conversation on facebook to some of my other friends as a joke. Well then the heat was on me. One of my closest friends says, "why am i friends with you?"Another goes, "wtf...are you some kind of idiot." The last one says, "why don't you just come over, get high, drunk, fap it, and be cool like we do?" wow man

Whatever, since on this path about a week ago I have begun to not give a sh*t about what they think. Only one of these guys has a job, and it's not a good one, while I got my engineering degree, just bought a new Audi and am renting in a new apartment while getting paid tons of money. These guys believe they are still in college, get drunk a lot, have no motivation, and generally fail at any attempt to improve themselves. They are constantly trying to bring me down to their level. I used to be the beta one in the group so they are used to being above me, but they can't stand to see my success. These guys are such a joke. My next step is to get some new friends who have similar hobbies and values that I do.

People should praise accomplishment, I agree with most of you that in an ideal world this would be the case, but most people seem to enjoy being miserable, and misery loves company.

 

[SeymourCake]

Sometimes the man in the mirror can be your worse enemy. Don't ever doubt yourself. Realize your unlimited potential and go out and make moves.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

This is so true. I recently confided in a friend that I believed I could trust that I had finally quit looking at porn and I was using meditation as a way to feel better about myself. This douchebag then posts the very private text conversation on facebook to some of my other friends as a joke. Well then the heat was on me. One of my closest friends says, "why am i friends with you?"Another goes, "wtf...are you some kind of idiot." The last one says, "why don't you just come over, get high, drunk, fap it, and be cool like we do?" wow man

Whatever, since on this path about a week ago I have begun to not give a sh*t about what they think. Only one of these guys has a job, and it's not a good one, while I got my engineering degree, just bought a new Audi and am renting in a new apartment while getting paid tons of money. These guys believe they are still in college, get drunk a lot, have no motivation, and generally fail at any attempt to improve themselves. They are constantly trying to bring me down to their level. I used to be the beta one in the group so they are used to being above me, but they can't stand to see my success. These guys are such a joke. My next step is to get some new friends who have similar hobbies and values that I do.

People should praise accomplishment, I agree with most of you that in an ideal world this would be the case, but most people seem to enjoy being miserable, and misery loves company.

You're an engineer making tons of money and bought an Audi at age 22? Engineering degrees are 4 years...making you not even a new graduate unless you went to university/college at age 17.

 

[NobodyCares1]

exactly... great article... when I was younger I used to listen to what people told me a lot... and it only led me to the state when I seriously considered suicide... I felt useless and I did NOTHING... I used to work out at least a little but then I felt no motivation... then at school the summer brake came and I literally cut out all contact... haven't met anyone I know besides family for two months... and after that I've been full of strength again... I began to work out again... I was often in a good mood... but still I listened to what people said... and I felt as I was falling into depression again... now I know that 99% of what they said was complete BULL$HIT...

girls used to tell me that I'm ugly... well usually not right like that but in a little better disguised way... anyway I had low self-esteem and self-confidence because of it and always considered myself ugly... but then I gathered all the strength I had and started going to the dicos and bars and stuff... and suddenly I was making out with a different girl almost every week... and I didn't even had to say anything to her I just danced... of course they were usually drunk but it gave me confidence and now I hear a lot that I'm handsome and good looking... THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE CONFIDENT... I guess girls like to have a little unconfident chump just in case...

even now I sometimes find myself listening to people bull$hit... but I usually realise that they are just jelaous... because they are lazy and incapable of overcoming their own fears...

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Of course If I tell you this is all bullsh*t; I´ll be accused of wishful thinking. The truth is that you must be smart enough to know who should be your friends. And people are like this some times, I acknowledge that, specially when they are down, it´s painful to see others succeed, but it´s not because they wanted them to fail... it´s just a painful reminder of their lack of success. Most people mean well, and are cool if you treat them well...

Now, I´m fully convinced that most of these writters about pickup, are lonely neurotic people, who have a very negative view on people in general, not just women. They are the ones who are deluded and they actually wished people were this bad, this way, they don´t feel so bad about being lonely losers... if people are this bad, why should you have any friends, right?

These foruns, will destroy some people´s lives... this is a concentration of unsuccessful, lonely, unhappy people sorry.. it´s the truth. If women don+t like you it´s probably because you have a neurotic view of life, and this kind of stuff actually can be felt by others.... it´s not because you are ugly. All you need to know: be confident, be funny, don´t be clingy, be a hard worker in everything you do, socialize a lot, and treat other people as you want to be treated. Now go out...

 

[Le killeur]

Recently got back off holiday (vacaction) and i was going to post the exact same thread.

Recently went on holiday (vacation) which in the UK we call a 'lads holiday'. Essentially involves drinking every night, getting wasted, pulling chicks etc. Anyway the one thing i noticed it that my best friends (Beta,Whiteknights etc) contantly c@ckblocked me. Every oppurtunity i had of pulling a girl they attempted to talk me out of it or guilttrip me with some BS.

EVERYONE who is not alpha/DJ wants you to fail because if you suceed they fail. You fail and they arent outshined by you. Be wary of people and learn to read the signs that they dont want you to succeed.

Anyway i ignored my friends bullsh@t and stuck to my DJ guns and banged multiple times! Haters gon' Hate :rockon:

 

[Le killeur]

Oops repeated, sorry

 

[floydb25]

Just to add: looking for emotional support / sympathy is a lost cause. People are going to use that against you, and look down on you for it, as well. For instance, if you tell someone you got rejected - they're going to say "because you're ugly", or some such. The status *****s and faggots are the worst.

I used to have guys hate on me to no end. They wanted to see me fail. All this AS all these girls were surrounding me. But, they made it seem like I was pursuing THEM. I was too stupid, ugly, worthless, etc to have a girlfriend. Then, after they sabotaged any intentions I could ever have - they'd gloat about how right they were. They were all over my balls, just hating non-stop.

Interestingly, they'd talk about how good looking THEY were - when they couldn't get anything from anyone. Some of the same nasty ass girls that I rejected - rejected them. But I'm so ugly, and they're so hot. Any time a hot girl was around me, they'd tear me down - while saying this fat, ugly chick was more up to my speed. This was constant. They could get anything, but I couldn't get anything. That was their mindset. And, they were very vocal and aggressive about it. Try to bring yourself up, and they tear you down.

One instance was when me and 3 friends were at a bar, and a girl approached me. I bombed cause I hated women and was bitter as hell, so they said "I would have took her home, easy; you pushed it too hard; blah blah". How great. Advice from someone who didn't even get the opportunity to do ****, because he wasn't attractive enough. But he would've done so much better. This is very common - as are excuses for not doing ****. They like to see people fail - while they never try. But, they're so great that they don't have to. That's why they never have ****, and hate on those who do.

People know this, by the way. They know you're successful, attractive, or whatever, and can't handle it. They're not oblivious to what's going on. They see women flirting with you, the clothes you wear, your social skills, the fact that people like you and find you funny / entertaining, and so on. They have none of these things, and dump their insecurities right out on you. Some of them want to be your friend simply so they CAN bring you down. It's like, get a ****ing life loser.

I had this happen on Facebook - before I deleted it. This ****off was friends with the same people I was. Typical degenerate ******* hater loser with no substance or life. People would comment positively on my posts, so he made it a priority to bring me down every chance he could get. And again, he SAW this happening, and still said "no one likes you", and other bull****. All while gloating about how much better he was than me - when I was never competing with his low life ass, or even give a **** about status. But, he was all about it. That's why he hated... I was a threat, a competition. They DON'T do this otherwise.

This is why you must be wary of the kind of crowd you're trying to attract. All these fake *****es are insecure and crazy, and will bring you down, as well. They all belong to the same loser crowd - who believes they're cool, popular, and above everyone else. They're low class garbage and dysfunctional ****tards who base their worth on shallow, stupid **** - because they don't have anything else, and are insecure as hell. That's who acts like this.

This is who a lot of people on here are complaining about, and trying to attract - retards. Being a bad boy and playing games works so well on these women because they're losers. That's why they ***** about them, as well - because they can't attract anyone better. This is why guys get confused when the girls ***** about the same things they keep going after. That's because its what they are. This is who complains about losers - other losers. That's why every loser woman is so attracted to bad boys. They don't deserve any better. You're being nice and caring to a worthless ****. You just don't see this until its too late, because you sympathize and assume. Bad news.

But, it is what it is.

 

[ArcBound]

Of course If I tell you this is all bullsh*t; I´ll be accused of wishful thinking. The truth is that you must be smart enough to know who should be your friends. And people are like this some times, I acknowledge that, specially when they are down, it´s painful to see others succeed, but it´s not because they wanted them to fail... it´s just a painful reminder of their lack of success. Most people mean well, and are cool if you treat them well...

Now, I´m fully convinced that most of these writters about pickup, are lonely neurotic people, who have a very negative view on people in general, not just women. They are the ones who are deluded and they actually wished people were this bad, this way, they don´t feel so bad about being lonely losers... if people are this bad, why should you have any friends, right?

These foruns, will destroy some people´s lives... this is a concentration of unsuccessful, lonely, unhappy people sorry.. it´s the truth. If women don+t like you it´s probably because you have a neurotic view of life, and this kind of stuff actually can be felt by others.... it´s not because you are ugly. All you need to know: be confident, be funny, don´t be clingy, be a hard worker in everything you do, socialize a lot, and treat other people as you want to be treated. Now go out...

This. Awhile ago I was caught into this mindset of me vs world but as much as we celebrate lone wolf going out and conquering the world. Fact of the matter is there are people there for you and who will help you out, friends and family. If you don't have any maybe it means there is something wrong with you, not the world.

 

[Down Low]

Last year after yet another breakup I backslided and got back together with the psycho cluster b1tch ex. She had fertility problems due to age and having used the shot and the pill. I went out by myself to a barbeque with many old friends, had a good time, and got drunk. I told my good friends how she had to use a couple of fertility pills, and that I didn't give a sh1t if there were any side effects. Jokingly, I said I didn't care if she was poisoned to death, for all the crap she gave me over the years. (Fertility pills are not toxic, and are ignorantly self-overdosed by millions of desperate women and men all over the world without any toxicity.)

Guess what? One of them called her and said I was trying to poison her to death [with one of the fertility pills].

This was one of my good, close friends, who is supposed to take my side and support me against her abuse.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I am not trying to brag, but I definitely have accomplished things that people said, "you'll NEVER GET THERE", and I phuking got there, and THEN SOME.

People will RARELY ENCOURAGE because you know what? That takes EFFORT and WORK. MOST PEOPLE are LAZY, and being an @ss and a negative-pile is a lot EASIER than actually firing the brain-cells to say, "hey maybe it's possible".

There will always be 10 people telling you that you can't, for the 1 person that says that you can. That 1 person is your friend. The rest are chumps. Phuk em.

 

[thechallenger]

It is programmed into many many people. The take attitude Like it is in the dna. more for me=less for you.

 

[floydb25]

I am not trying to brag, but I definitely have accomplished things that people said, "you'll NEVER GET THERE", and I phuking got there, and THEN SOME.

People will RARELY ENCOURAGE because you know what? That takes EFFORT and WORK. MOST PEOPLE are LAZY, and being an @ss and a negative-pile is a lot EASIER than actually firing the brain-cells to say, "hey maybe it's possible".

There will always be 10 people telling you that you can't, for the 1 person that says that you can. That 1 person is your friend. The rest are chumps. Phuk em.

Mos' def. And, what Arc said. The problem is, being able to weed out the real from the fake, and not lumping them all together. Much like in the woman / dating sense. The parallels are the same. Focus on the good; avoid the bad. The bad outweigh the good, or at least seem that way since they're more in your face and rude about it, but louder doesn't mean righter (yes, this isn't a word; blow me). Can't let the vocal ones get to you - simply because they bring you down with aggression and persistence. **** them.

If you think about some of the negative remarks and rejections you've encountered - its usually from the same few people. Just because they're jerks who are loud, rude, and obnoxious, think their opinion is always right, and that they speak for everyone - doesn't make anything they say true. Repeating the same phrases doesn't, either. And they will bring you down constantly. Haters never stop hating; bullies never stop bullying. Just gotta shrug it off, and focus on your successes. They don't exist, should be your mindset.

This is also why you must be cautious of who you're trying to become, and the people you're trying to attract. This is no different from celebrities. Once they become rich and famous, everyone wants to be their friend - as long as the money, parties, women, gifts, etc are there. In real life terms, as long as you're popular, hot, drive a nice car, wear nice clothes, are social, attract women, etc - everyone wants to be around you, but they're all fake. Including the women. They only care about your status. Everyone wants to be the cool, popular, suave guy, but they're just going to end up miserable. Most of them are already there, and can't seem to figure out why. 'Cause its not as fabulous as they think it is. It just brings a new list of problems. Everyone's trying to bring you down, use you in some way, be part of something (through you), etc. They all want a piece of the pie. They're all fake. This is the crowd you attract by becoming this person. It's not all fun and games. There's a lot of crazy, dysfunctional, manipulative people out there just looking for a free ride. And, most everyone on here is trying to become this person. Lollerbiscuits. :trouble:

But eh, I'm not here to preach or guide people. Just telling it like it is. Do with it as you will. You reap what you sow, though. Definitely.

Mostly, just avoid the masses, 'cause EVERYONE has an opinion, judgement, or critique. Focus on the few real friends you have, and **** the rest. Don't seek out other people's opinions, or try to gain their approval - 'cause you're not going to get it. The majority will always be against you. Just the way it is. Find those who are for you (and vice versa).

 

[floydb25]

Check this out... Pretty accurate:

http://thriveordie.com/how-to-spot-fake-friends/

Note: this applies to friends AND dating prospects. A lot of these women you date are fake, as well.

A good sign is misery, bitterness, failure, rejection... The damsel in distress we try to save. She's going to take your ass down with her. Always associate with positive, happy (or at least content), successful people... Or those trying to better themselves. Don't try to get involved with failures and outcasts. Even if you are one, and can relate to them - they're most likely going to bring you down. Gotta focus your attention on positive energy. Not angry, hateful, depressed, cynical people. Yeah, you can relate, but you're just keeping yourself stuck, and basically just sharing the misery. "I hate people!" "Yeah, me too!" No progress. Gotta aim high if you want to succeed. Not just ***** about everything with other bitter people.

This is a hard cycle to break. You automatically attract what you are. Just gotta realize that doing this hasn't been helping ****, and break the pattern. IE, captain save-a-ho. Don't just not be the savior / white knight, and switch up your game - stop seeking after dysfunctional people, period. And so on. Attracting a crazy person doesn't stop them from being crazy, or needing to have a ****ed up, careless, game-filled relationship to keep them around. Bah. **** that. Let them be crazy and have a pointless relationship with someone else. Unless you're just looking for sex. But a lot of guys want to tame the crazy.

 

[Burroughs]

great link lets make a permanent hard copy people need to get this:

You really don’t need binoculars to see these people.

I want to use today’s article to talk about fake friends. On the road to your dreams, it’s critical that you keep great people in your life and remove people who suck.

This is simple math. Add and Subtract.

You will reach your dream life if you have the right people to travel there with. “Real friends.”

You will not reach your dream life if you have the wrong people sabotaging your journey. “Fake friends.”

Here are a few ways to spot the wrong people – “the fake friends:”
If they let you constantly do dumb sh*t
Fake friends love to see you “dance” for their entertainment. They will encourage you to act like a douche. They will let you make a fool of yourself and put it on YouTube. Since their lives are so miserable, they need to ruin other people’s lives to keep theirs interesting.

If they don’t share their dreams with you
Fake friends are not concerned with bettering their lives. When the topic comes up about what they want to do with their lives they avoid it. They will call you corny for talking about it, or avoid the situation entirely by changing topics or saying “I don’t know” and acting frustrated. The truth is they probably do know but don’t believe in themselves enough to make it happen. To counter this sad reality, they leech onto you to suck the life out of you.

If they don’t call you out when you mess up
Fake friends love to see you go down, because it brings you to their level. Nobody is perfect. Real friends will be there to say “look you are messing up right now in ______ area of your life.” Real friends want you to prosper. Fake friends want you to perish. You need real friends who will keep you on track to reaching your dreams and make you a better person.

If they don’t care about your opinion
Fake friends don’t care what you think. Period. They are only there to project their negative energy onto you and feed off of your energy. They are selfish and so when you tell them things, they pretend to listen but can never remember what it was you tried to teach them.

If they only seem to be around when they want something
As I mentioned, they are selfish. You can easily spot a fake friend by looking for when they like to come around. Do they only call you to go drinking because they know you will buy drinks for them? Do they only call you when they are in trouble? Do they only call you when they need you to pick them up? Do they only call you when they are short on money? Do they only call you to complain?

If they always complain about everything
That last question brings me to this point. Fake friends love to complain because they have nothing else going for them. They whine about every stupid little thing. Why would you want to waste your life listening to that?

If they aren’t looking out for your health
Lastly, fake friends don’t care if you die. Sorry to sound so harsh but it’s true. Fake friends will let you drink, smoke, chew, party, eat, and drug yourself to death. A fake friend does not care what you do to yourself as long as it entertains them. If you try to better yourself, they try to derail you. Because if you get better you will leave them. They aren’t worried about you; they are worried about being abandoned. Fake friends are still people and people need to be social. If you leave, it means they have to find someone else to feed off of. This means they have to pretend to listen and care about someone long enough to leech onto them and that is more work.

I hope this article was a wake up call for you. I hope you are surrounding yourself only with the best people. You need great people in your life!

I once had a slew of fake friends… They don’t exist to me any more. They have been subtracted from my life. And you know what… I don’t miss them at all. My life is infinitely better and the people I invest my time in now are the ones who make me a better person. I am blessed to have such great friends and I will make sure to keep them in my life.