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[nilescrane]

There are three kinds of posts on here.

1.)"There's this one girl and she doesn't like me" or "There's this one girl and I think I blew it with her."

2.)"I'm a __ year old virgin that's never even been on a date or kissed a girl. How do I become a pimp?"

3.)"There are no quality women out there" or "All women cheat or are gold-diggers."

The fact is, you should be happy in your life, women or no women. Girlfriend or no girlfriend. If you're not, even if you get women, you'll have no strong foundation. On top of that, the girl will find you boring if you have no hobbies/passions/interests, and even if you manage to get her interest temporarily, she will leave you for a more interesting guy.

I can hear a lot of you saying "But I just want to have sex." Women don't have sex with losers unless they're drunk or the guy is in their social circle.

The ironic thing is, once you get your life together, and have actual interests and hobbies, you won't want women as much. I want a girlfriend, but I can live without one. It would just be a bonus to find an attractive woman that I have things in common with.

I think too many people are brainwashed by the media or their guy friends to think that getting women or getting laid is so important.

I think a lot of guys on here want to run before they can crawl.

A guy I used to talk to, according to a mutual friend, went condom shopping. The ironic thing? He's never had a date, kissed a girl or been in a position to have sex.

 

[trent81]

The fact is, you should be happy in your life, women or no women. Girlfriend or no girlfriend. If you're not, even if you get women, you'll have no strong foundation. On top of that, the girl will find you boring if you have no hobbies/passions/interests, and even if you manage to get her interest temporarily, she will leave you for a more interesting guy.

I can hear a lot of you saying "But I just want to have sex." Women don't have sex with losers unless they're drunk or the guy is in their social circle.

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These two paragraphs are very good man. She will leave you if she finds out sooner or later that you have lied. And you hit it on the money. Unless she is super drunk and super slutty they will not sleep with guys outside of their circle (friend of a friend) if he is a loser. This is an awesome statement and very realistic.

 

[trent81]

how old are you bro? You have some wisdom.

 

[Gizmotron]

You're right about the three post types you mentioned. Yours, however, is post type #4: "focus on improving yourself and become a man of value and the girls will follow"

 

[old married dude]

I agree a lot of threads are the same here.

The ones like "She's acting all weird/shady, should I continue to see her?" are somewhat bothersome & are a bit AFC-like.

I've always thought that the moment this question enters your head that's it's time to move on to other prospects.

 

[DonJuan11]

There are three kinds of posts on here.

1.)"There's this one girl and she doesn't like me" or "There's this one girl and I think I blew it with her."

2.)"I'm a __ year old virgin that's never even been on a date or kissed a girl. How do I become a pimp?"

3.)"There are no quality women out there" or "All women cheat or are gold-diggers."

The fact is, you should be happy in your life, women or no women. Girlfriend or no girlfriend.

Way way too abstract and general. It's not as simple as "you should be happy...girlfriend or no girlfriend." Some guys have always had women issues while having an interesting and exciting life, yet no matter what they do, they can't attract the opposites sex. If a guy has never had sex in his mid-late twenties, how can he be happy in his life? If all he focuses on is sex with a hot girl, all he thinks about is taking a hot girls clothes off in his bedroom, all he thinks about is kissing her in places he sees in his dreams, how can he concentrate on being happy when the player just says two words and she gets weak knees? It's not cut and dry as you make it out to be.


If you're not, even if you get women, you'll have no strong foundation. On top of that, the girl will find you boring if you have no hobbies/passions/interests, and even if you manage to get her interest temporarily, she will leave you for a more interesting guy. I can hear a lot of you saying "But I just want to have sex." Women don't have sex with losers unless they're drunk or the guy is in their social circle.

You are confusing the issues. Most guys on here know they have to have an exciting life and a strong foundation (even though it is hard for alot of them to do). Nonetheless, their main concern is when "players" or other guys who "know the formula how to get laid easy" can do it in a bar or club in less than 5 min and they have spent all their lives trying to figure women out. Alot of guys on here are frustrated they don't know the formula to get sex fast and quick from a hot girl. They don't know how to touch a girl, to relate to a girl, to attract a girl. They don't want spend 12 months to build a strong foundation in order to have sex with a hot girl, when a guy who knows the formula spends 12 min with her and the girl takes her underwear off.



I think too many people are brainwashed by the media or their guy friends to think that getting women or getting laid is so important.

It is important and I think you are trying to convince yourself that it's not. If you are afraid to relate to a girl sexually, if you don't know how to touch a girl, to kiss a girl, to have sex with a girl, when and how are you going to learn? Through your passions and hobbies? Through your friends? Through your strong foundation? A strong foundation can be built over time, hobbies and friends can be built over time, being rich can be built over time. Getting women and getting laid cannot be built over time - you cannot study it and pass an exam, you cannot go to 7-11 and order a Big Gulp and sex with a hot girl.

If you tell your hot girlfriend "I don't how to sexually relate to a girl at 26, but I have strong passions and hobbies, know half the city and President Obama", she'll still think something is wrong with you.


I think a lot of guys on here want to run before they can crawl.

A guy I used to talk to, according to a mutual friend, went condom shopping. The ironic thing? He's never had a date, kissed a girl or been in a position to have sex.

Well that guy is an idiot.

 

[The Message Boy]

NOPE, the OP gets it. I've been actually waiting for someone to make a post like this. The Mature Man Forum and the Main Discussion Forums are two of the same, the only difference is that the Discussion Forum has AFCs that come RIGHT OUT and say they suck with women. The Mature Man Forum on the other hand has AFCs that BLAME their lack of success on WOMEN.

DonJuan 11 says,

Way way too abstract and general. It's not as simple as "you should be happy...girlfriend or no girlfriend."

No actually that's the foundation of the guys that GET all of the women. They are content and happy BEFORE they even approach a girl, that's the foundation to laying all of the women, it's the fact that you don't NEED THEM, they need YOU.

DonJuan 11 says,

Some guys have always had women issues while having an interesting and exciting life, yet no matter what they do, they can't attract the opposites sex.

MOST of the "problems" with women that guys have are insecurity based. Look at alot of the threads on the main discussion forum, "What did she mean when she said this?" "What did she mean when she looked at me this way?" This is just stupid. No fun, no spontaneity. IF you really want to be the guy that's "laying all the girls," then START doing what guys like that do! And that's just let the fvck go and LIVE!

DonJuan 11 says,

If a guy has never had sex in his mid-late twenties, how can he be happy in his life?

This is stupid. SEX is in the mind first of all, just because you have sex that doesn't mean you are now going to be content. You can fvck until your balls fall off, that doesn't bring TRUE happiness.

TRUE happiness ONLY comes when you are living the OVERALL life (career, passion, etc) that you were made to live. Women are just apart of that overall pie.

DonJuan 11 says,

You are confusing the issues. Most guys on here know they have to have an exciting life and a strong foundation (even though it is hard for alot of them to do). Nonetheless, their main concern is when "players" or other guys who "know the formula how to get laid easy" can do it in a bar or club in less than 5 min and they have spent all their lives trying to figure women out.

Well then here's a newsflash...STOP TRYING TO FIGURE WOMEN OUT. Instead, figure out yourself. Hell you just said, you said you don't understand when players just walk in the club and in less then 5 minutes grab a girl, while the other guy has SPENT MOST OF HIS LIFE TRYING TO FIGURE WOMEN OUT.

That's the fvcking problem. The player isn't trying to figure the woman out, he's just going after wtf he wants! Either she comes along or she doesn't! If she doesn't oh fvcking well, NEXT!

 

[nilescrane]

To address DonJuan11, every guy I know who is 20something and frustrated about women has no life to speak of. Not getting women is the least of their problems. And the guys I know who are happy and have lives and aren't getting women, while they want women, it's low on the priority list. It's a win-win situation for those guys. You don't get women, you still have a life. You get women, you're adding to your already good life.


This hypothetical guy that has a life but dreams about making out with hot women...he doesn't even know what it's like to kiss a woman or touch a woman, so how does he know what he's missing out on? He sounds creepy and obsessed with women and sounds a lot like a George Sodini in the making.