Every day you wait, your choices decrease..

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I was talking to a 32 year old guy today who said this to me.

Basically, he thinks that if he doesn't get married ASAP, every day that he waits it is going to get harder. i.e. the pool of women you can marry and have a family with will keep getting reduced.

Any of you guys in your 30s and 40s feeling this way?
 

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Even though I'm not quite there yet in age I feel this is true for a lot of guys.

Though the younger you look the longer you stay marketable to the young chicks.
 

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I think if you take that attitude it leads to desperation which leads to many a night on the sosuave board asking " why did she dis me like that "

agreeing with sexy kuta on the point about not beating around the bush though, many many more nexts for incompatibility as I get older .....

I don't have an issue getting dates, I run into quality issues, and that happened in my teens and twentys as well.

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MrLuvr said:
I was talking to a 32 year old guy today who said this to me.

Basically, he thinks that if he doesn't get married ASAP, every day that he waits it is going to get harder. i.e. the pool of women you can marry and have a family with will keep getting reduced.

Any of you guys in your 30s and 40s feeling this way?
Yes the risk is that if you are single now you may be single forever. What your 32 year old friend does not realize is that being in a bad relationship is so much worse than being alone.

It's better to die an old alone man, than die a young(er) abused one...
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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The older I get (I am 47, fit for my age and full head of Grey hair), the more women I find chase after me - even the so called 'happily' married ones ?

I am chased by anything from 18 to 55+, so I think my options have increased as I get older.. weather this will decrease when I get into my 50s, we will have to see.
 

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MrLuvr said:
I was talking to a 32 year old guy today who said this to me.

Basically, he thinks that if he doesn't get married ASAP, every day that he waits it is going to get harder. i.e. the pool of women you can marry and have a family with will keep getting reduced.

Any of you guys in your 30s and 40s feeling this way?
Wrong.

The guys is an AFC in an AFC institution, i can see him being married for the sake of it, little does he know the true consequences of his actions.

Another indocterined, must get married fool, only this one thinks it is a life objective to be human.

Anyway.

The pool of marriage potential women is pritty dam shallow, nothing to do with age.

Personnally i have walked this path.

i talked to a guy last night, he was married 3 years, now seperated, he is 32 years old, you can look around and see the waste that is in the idiology of marriage, more and more divorced people about.

Why is he seperated?

His women was boring, he made every effort to make the marriage work, but his wife was boring, attractive but forever more boring, so he left the ideal and is now single, hes just done the ironman and is now thinking of traveling the world for a year.

Even if your partner is not screwed up in some forms, you have to fight boredom.

Imagine eating a steak sandwich every day for the rest of your life.

Marriage takes a hell of alot of work, sadly in this day and age, that work is too much for A hell of alot of people, this is not a problem, why put in the Work anyway? The ones who think its worth it together stick at it, the rest get on with it.

Marriage should never be rushed, putting a time delay clock on it tells me your mate is totally and firmly rooted in what others think of him, i.e a life goal.

why do most think marriage is a pre-quisit for being human?

If you truely want the life of settling down and having children and doing the whole picket fence ideal, i would suggest you think about uping and moving out of the western sphere altogether.

i know i am thinking about it, increasingly more so.

Whilst you guys worry about your ticking time bomb, me i will sit back open a beer, watch some Action film that women love to hate, or play on some Xbox game, or maybe i'll go out clubbing and stroll in at 2 in the morning.

Marriage time-bomb lol, what a fuc*ed up concept.

got to get married, got to get married, dam i am 31 now got to get married, i aint normal if i dont get married, oh no now i am 32 dam got to get married, i have 3 to 4 years left, got to do it.

Sorry for the above rant, but wtf is going on in your heads, jesus.
 

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In your 30s, obviously the pool of NEVER MARRIED, CHILDLESS women shrinks. I wouldn't say the pool of women in general shrinks because so many women married in the 20s will end up divorced in the 30s, sadly. Though the older you get, the more likely you're going to have to settle for a woman with kids already if dating a woman your age.
 

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No.

The pool is getting larger. I continue to be surprised by the number of women in there 20’s that have no problem with me. The only thing holding me back is me. I’m still surprised when I look into their eyes and they have that funny dazed look and I realize, hell, they are actually into me.

I’m not bragging at all; other super mature guys on here can corroborate this. It’s surprisingly, and pleasantly, common.
 

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speakeasy said:
In your 30s, obviously the pool of NEVER MARRIED, CHILDLESS women shrinks. I wouldn't say the pool of women in general shrinks because so many women married in the 20s will end up divorced in the 30s, sadly. Though the older you get, the more likely you're going to have to settle for a woman with kids already if dating a woman your age.

I would like you to re-read your post again and tell me how in the hell this means the pool has shrunk?

Re-read it again.

If you DONT get it i will post a reply.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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The Poison Thought:

Re-framing and Re-Programming social programming.

The possibility that a ‘thought’ or a belief can bring devastating consequences, or is potentially a virus waiting to develop and germinate.

The thought Virus, i.e Marriage the ‘Thought’:

It looks like I need to inject some re-framing, it seems still has much has people develop it is a possibility that social programming that is so ingrained is the hardest to remove or counter re-frame.

First let me pic out each quoted response:

A: Sexy Kuta Writes:
[that applys to anything. the longer you wait. the harder it will become
"I'll go to the gym 2morrow" then 2morrow turns into next week.. then u get fatter.. etc.
its a given fact. you cannot beat around the bush. but for situations like him its different. he doesnt have a choice, but to other areas in life this applys quite well. if you are planning to do something. Do it right away. not later
because you are gonna create a habit :laziness]

What is going on here, what does Jonwon see that’s so strange, it seems like a normal post does it not?

1. The Longer you wait the harder it will become? MMM exactly how does that concept work, I think we need to see, speakeasys reply to get a clearer picture.

2. If I don’t go to the gym I will be fatter, the same has if I don’t get married I will be? I will be what exactly? A fat unmarried guy? An umarried guy? Shock Horror, my god imagine what the Jonses would think (oh wait I don’t have to impress the Jonses, since I am not married).

3. You can not beat around the bush! So we have to rush in and do it fast, why? The answer lies deep in the replies, I will explain in time.


B: Kontrollx writes:
[Even though I'm not quite there yet in age I feel this is true for a lot of guys.
Though the younger you look the longer you stay marketable to the young chicks].

The longer you look, the less marketable you are to the young chick? This post ain’t so bad, but it’s the sense of RUSH type reply that I don’t like, another product of the ‘poison thought’.


C: Luthor Rex Writes:
[Yes the risk is that if you are single now you may be single forever. What your 32 year old friend does not realize is that being in a bad relationship is so much worse than being alone.
It's better to die an old alone man, than die a young(er) abused one...]

Being in a bad relationship is so much worse then being alone! Read that again, people read it AGAIN and let’s move on.


D: Speakeasy Writes:
[In your 30s, obviously the pool of NEVER MARRIED, CHILDLESS women shrinks. I wouldn't say the pool of women in general shrinks because so many women married in the 20s will end up divorced in the 30s, sadly. Though the older you get, the more likely you're going to have to settle for a woman with kids already if dating a woman your age].

The bread and butter of the whole post, the thought coming out in its strongest form, the ‘thought’ would present itself eventually, it would surface and here it is!

But Jonwon that’s a normal post and I agree with it, I don’t see anything wrong, I think your loosing it.

Ok let me show you WHAT I SEE.

Here we go an introduction to the ‘Thought’ and the poison being sucked out for others to view.

1. In your 30s, obviously the pool of NEVER MARRIED, CHILDLESS women shrinks.

Never married childless women, take note of this has this is important to the point I am going to expose.

2. I wouldn't say the pool of women in general shrinks because so many women married in the 20s will end up divorced in the 30s

Will end up divorced in there 30’s, we are starting to take shape, the Marriage ‘Thought’ is slowly being drawn out.

3. Though the older you get, the more likely you're going to have to settle for a woman with kids already if dating a woman your age]

And here we are, the final point.

Still can’t see it?

Need some help ok.

The ‘poison thought’.

From the dawn of your time, you or the average person has been led to believe to be ‘human’ eventually you will need to get married, it is so ingrained into your social programming ‘map’ to even question its rational is met with ridicule, so ingrained in your system, so part of your make up your cant even see the potential destruction that is the product of this ‘blind’ thought and ‘human ideal’ (western world concept).

Here we have it:

Sexykuta says “The older you get the more likely your going to settle for a women with kids”.

Whooo what was that just then a blip on the radar, there is something in those words that need attention, but in the wake of the marriage ‘thought’ it can be passed by, the superior ‘thought’ has allowed your radar to miss a major obstacle.

And what is that?

Kids, children, YOUR CHILDREN.

So the dating pool of women has been reduced to women, who are supporting some-one else’s prodigy, some other mans genetic gene pool and this is why the pool of marriage has shrunk! But whoo hold on a second! has it shrunk?

Or has it just grown? How do I mean?

Read it again, a women with kids.

Imagine this for a second.

You have children and your partner leaves you and takes those children? Come on take those words and picture yourself in that ideal, in that concept, now picture your kids being raised by another man. Now take that image and picture that women with the kids raised by the other man was in fact YOUR WIFE. See what I am doing here, so has the dating pool grown now your single and older, due to the now knowing you have AVOIDED a women who would want to have CHILDREN with any OTHER MAN BUT YOU, has the pool grown or decreased.

So is marriage more IMPORTANT then CHILDREN?

What is marriage, what is it exactly, why do men and women get together, what is sex? What does Sex do? What is it for?


The Poison ‘thought’

Why pick on the Master DJ’s in this thread, why single them out and why single speakeasy out?

This ‘thought’ is so common so prominent in our social structure it is at the concept of the destruction of marriage, it is a foundation that is helping to destroy the institution of marriage. The thought of putting the cart before the horse, the ideal of rushing into marriage, due to some theoretical time clock on the concept and the worst one:

Getting married to comply to a social structure and a set of beliefs that where programming into you from birth, to the detriment of your own welfare, even has far has getting married to women who have been described has being DIVORCED.

What do I mean:
1. so many women married in the 20s will end up divorced in the 30s.
So lets see this here, you’re the guy who married this girl, remember, she is divorced and SO ARE YOU, did you think about that in your rush to tie the knot?

Also lets dig deeper, she is divorced, does that make her a good choice for a future WIFE and the MOTHER of your CHILDREN?

So tell me has the dating pool Shrunk or has the dating pool grown?

Maybe just maybe the fact your single and have not been divorced at the age of 30 is not that BAD, maybe just maybe:
"I'll go to the gym 2morrow" then 2morrow turns into next week.. then u get fatter.. etc.

You will be thankful you postponed your GYM membership, hey at least if your FAT you wont be fat and paying child maintenance living in a cheap rented apartment whilst your wife manages to suck in the 3rd Husband WHO MUST GET MARRIED COS HE HAS TO.

You better rush and get married folks, who knows, if you do it at the age of 20 you could be divorced by 30 and you can do it all over again, wont that be nice.

And what do i see has the core route, what is my blind vision?

MARRIAGE IS A TOTAL JOKE.

IT is a watered down concept, to think to even think, that it is acceptable and NORMAL to be dating women who are DIVORCED, or DIVORCED WITH CHILDREN makes MARRIAGE A JOKE.

Do you understand?
 

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grinder said:
The pool is getting larger. I continue to be surprised by the number of women in there 20’s that have no problem with me. The only thing holding me back is me. I’m still surprised when I look into their eyes and they have that funny dazed look and I realize, hell, they are actually into me.

I’m not bragging at all; other super mature guys on here can corroborate this. It’s surprisingly, and pleasantly, common.
I would say a testament from a 48 yr old should qualify for something!

I'm almost 36 and I have a 21 yr old college chick coming to stay with me for the weekend. We're gonna go out and dance, come back to my place, she's gonna fukk me silly, and cook me bacon and eggs the next morning.

Had several experiences in the past few months with women ranging from 20-26. Like grinder said....the pool only keeps growing.

Any guy in his 30's who thinks his marketability is going down....well....it probably is. But only because he's a CHUMP. You gotta really be a loser if you are an older man and can't see the plethora of opportunities that are available to you.
 

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This is simply the lonley old man myth again. Yet another feminine social convention.

This notion is one of the biggest AFC rationale ever perpetrated on men. Is lonelines a disease that necessitates a cure? If men could be made to believe so, think of the potential profit to be made from, and the potential for manipulation of, men. The real test for a man is how he lives with himself, alone. Precious few men ever truly allow themselves to be alone and learn real independence and self-reliance. The vast majority of guys (particularly in western culture) tend to transition from mother to wife with little or no intermission between, going from LTR to LTR until they 'settle' without ever having learned how to interact as an adult.

The fear of loneliness is entirely too exaggerated in modern western romaticism. The popularized fear-mythology of becoming the "lonely old man who never loved" is the new 'old maid' myth made popular in an era when a woman's worth was dependent upon her marital status and equally as false a premise. But in our brave new generation AFC, men (who've become women) are repackaged and shamed into believing this horsesh!t as part & parcel of this feminized gender role reversal. And thus we get Speed Dating and eHarmony and a host of other "conveniences" to pacify the insecurities that this reversal makes poor fatherless boys believe we 'should' have as part of ourselves by no other virtue than that we were born male.

Don't buy into the powder-puff idea that if you don't find your ONE by the time you're 30 and ASAP you'll tempt fate and risk a life of quiet desperation. This contrivance only serves the interests of women who's imperative it is to enjoy their party years in their 20's with as many Jerks as they can attract and have a stable Nice Guy who's petrified he'll live a life of loneliness and desperation waiting for them at 28-30 to marry and ensure their long term security.

Don't buy this lie. The man who is comfortable with himself and confident in his true independence is the one that women will want to be associated with and to share in it. How you handle being alone and what you do with that freedom is the real measure of a man.

If you're single and 50 you STILL have options if you're only brave enough to explore them. I know divorced men in their 50s who're dating mid to late 30s women now and I know men in their 60s who've been trapped and emotionally blackmailed by their wives for 20 years.

speakeasy said:
In your 30s, obviously the pool of NEVER MARRIED, CHILDLESS women shrinks.
Which is precisely why you should date women younger than yourself. I personally know a 23 y.o. smokin' hot HB 8.5 who's seeing a 38 y.o. guy - her first 'older guy' as she puts it - and she cannot get enough of him. I was also the best man for my best friend's wedding last year, his wife is 25 and he's 38. They started dating when she was 23 and he was 36. Again, don't buy into what women who waited too long to cash their chips in in their 30s would have you believe about young women and older men.
 

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Observations on marriage

- You should really make the most of marriage, because you're only going to get married two or three times in a lifetime.


- Marriage is a great institution - if you don't mind living in an institution.


- Marriage is an attempt to complete childhood. Thus in marriage we never fully become adults, for childhood must be grown out of, not completed.


- If you are single and attached to the opposite sex, then three quarters of your mind is taken-up with them. This leaves only one quarter available to reason. With so little reason available to you, marriage is sure to follow. Now the whole of your mind is taken up with family - eliminating reason completely!


- An unhappy husband once said to a psychologist "Marriage doesn't work, the only thing that works is divorce." "Divorce is only a temporary happiness" replied the psychologist.


- Does a wife truly wish for her husband to become a Buddha? Does a husband truly wish for his wife to become a Buddha? Thus, if you wish to become a Buddha, do not marry.


- In contrast to a loose-jointed framework egotism, the union of marriage is a stone-wall egotism. This is precisely why we are told marriage is the truly ennobling life.
 

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There's always someway to validate when there are a lack of choices with women. When you are in high school, you can't wait until college to get all the college babes, in college, can't wait until you get out and get a good job, good car, then you'll really score some HB's.

Get the good job, good car, and a few HB's...enjoy your 20's, then 30 comes around. Schreeeeching halt. Where are the good women to marry? Why am I not happily married, with kids, white picket fence?

All of a sudden, there are no "choices", all the "choices" must be going away because of age now. Yes, it's my age, that's it!! Can't we go backward? But if we go backward, would we just end up looking forward again?

This seems to be the "happiness is just around the corner" issue disquised by a lack of women at the current moment.

Tomorrow, the OP's friend may meet a couple of HB's and have a completely different viewpoint. Funny how that happens.. :yes:

However, the biggest thing that I've learned from this site, is that I, personally, do not need to have women in my life to be complete. I'm a happy guy regardless.

Right now, I have two women I just started dating, a couple of weeks ago, there was none actually. I the same guy who goes about his daily life enjoying it, with women, or without.

I'm 34, and my life just keeps getting better and better with each year that goes by. I can't wait to meet the man I'll be when I'm 40.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Which is precisely why you should date women younger than yourself. I personally know a 23 y.o. smokin' hot HB 8.5 who's seeing a 38 y.o. guy - her first 'older guy' as she puts it - and she cannot get enough of him. I was also the best man for my best friend's wedding last year, his wife is 25 and he's 38. They started dating when she was 23 and he was 36. Again, don't buy into what women who waited too long to cash their chips in in their 30s would have you believe about young women and older men.
Blame my AFC conditioning, but if you would have told me ten years ago that i would have 20 year old women falling for me when I hit my mid 30's, I would have had you institutionalized.

I could never have imagined age being such a non issue for the chick. I would have thought that most all women in that age group would look at guys in their 30's as "dirty old men".

When I first hooked up with the chick that is visiting me in a couple of weeks i learned some interesting things.

First off, i learned that even women under 21 are fair game for guys in their 30's. I think I had this preconception that only women of legal drinking age could be attracted to a guy so much older for some reason.

Secondly, I learned that other women (especially other women who are attracted to you) will try to shame the younger ones into thinking that what they are doing is wrong, that the guy only wants a "trophy fukk". Funny thing is, her friend is telling her she's doing wrong, but the chick herself is bragging about it. Who is the REAL trophy? Sounds like a mutually beneficial situation to me.

I also could never have imagined that as a mature man, I would be able to even hold a conversation with a girl who is 15 years younger than me. Thankfully the generation gap of past decades no longer exists. I know their music and culture, and they are familiar with the things I grew up with.
 

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dont know why guys think age is a definitive issue. sometimes it is, sometimes its not.

when i was in my 20s i wanted to bang mature women - and did!

i can only assume that there are plenty of women in their 20s who get off getting attention from an older male.
 

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The optimist in me would always agree with the main sentiment here; there are plenty of women out there and that your value as a man should continually be rising as you move through your late 20s to even 30s.

Now lets talk realism from what I saw in my microcosm from 18-21;

I attended a relatively small private college that was definitely known for beautiful, young, intelligent women. The really good ones (read hot ones) were apparent to every young man that attended there. The college was small enough that you pretty much knew everyone, at least from a superficial standpoint.

From what I saw, every single really hot, top desirable woman was "taken" by the time she made it to her senior year. The running joke was the hot ones were there getting a top quality "Mrs" degree. It was simply impossible for a very desirable woman to make it through all of that without eventually some guy "snagging" her and establishing a LTR or, more common, an eventual marriage. Remember, we all agree most women do want marriage cause it benefits them more so if the right guy asks them (and the right guy WILL ask a very desirable woman), then they will say yes.

So its mathematics; ~100% available when they came in as freshman; by the time they graduated, they were ALL picked over.

I would have enjoyed for the humor aspects alone a 30 something year old trying to have "invaded" that closed-knit college atmosphere with an attempt to game one of those young women. Not only would such a guy not been accepted by any of the men into any clic there, probably most of the women would have wonder what's this 30 year old prowler doing on the campus.

So, be positive guys, pessimism doesn't help anyone. But the ones with the best shot at those women will definitely not be you. Some guys (the ones attending there) see them every single day and have class with them, and some do not (you?).

One can call something a "myth" all day long, but I'm not sure it will make it so.

If i were single, i can't imagine a potential dating ground that would be even 1/10th as bountiful as college was for me. Every 50 minutes, I saw more hot, young women than I could shake a stick at. When you actually attend the college you're "gaming" at, obviously you have a great excuse for "involving" yourself with them, the parties, etc.
 
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