CostaDeSol said:
I want to date one of these at some point, just to see what its like. I had thought that this type of woman would be different because they don't rely on men to buy them things.
I never had before, but i'm running into so many girls right now that work $hit jobs that I can't help but want to be with some one who actually has a passion for their job.
Maybe I'm being too picky. I guess I just want something different right now.
You are suffering from the "grass is greener" syndrome. I'm not pointing fingers at you b/c I'm just as guilty as you are but in different areas...
As it is with everything, it's a case-by-case basis with these types of women. There were a few women (HB7ish) who proactively offer to split checks or pay for meals. But for the most part, these women still want men to hold them up on a pedestal and court them. It isn't highly unusual for a women making this money in the late 20s to early 30s to regularly splurge on meals that cost at least $100-$150/person. This is their baseline and this is what they expect on a regular basis. Even if you alternate and pay, it's going to cause a huge strain on your financial budget and unless you are somewhere near her financial status you are going to have a hard time keeping her for a LTR (STRs and ONS are totally different story).
These women have an incredibly hard time finding a guy who fits their definition of marriage or BF material. Their social status combined with hypergamy have priced themselves out of the market for anyone HB <7.5. When you look at it, it's almost similar to the average male situation for these women. The very top of the female corporate hierarchy is a very lonely place to be. For the high value male with decent game (and who can speak their "language") can easily deal with these types. You can find many quality girls HB 7 and under who are LTR/marriage material. However, the same rules apply with all groups in that you have to screen like hell to find the right girl, but in my opinion, the chances of landing a girl who is LTR/marriage material is higher in this group than others.
In terms of passion...yes they are passionate. They are so passionate/gung-ho and strong-willed that that they will be a lot less forgiving than the average woman when a man shows any signs of weakness. Remember, that these women are going to expect a lot more than what they have...so their definition of an "ambitious and passionate man" is going to be on a completely different level than what most people envision.
Lastly, in terms of the HB9+ women in this group....they either don't want to settle down, want a male who doesn't exist (if they are single), or are locked in with someone with incredible status. It is very very very tough to break into this subgroup.
Nothing is easy and there are always tradeoffs when making a choice.