Even Nicest Women Of Them All Will Cheat If They Can

[logicallefty]

My GF has a friend who is visiting her from another state for several months while on a temporary work assignment in our area. 49yo. When it comes to adult women, this friend is about the sweetest, nicest female you could want to meet. She is very respectful to me, very caring. Even helped my mother with some things and wanted nothing in return. I have a lot of good things to say about her.. But here is the issue. Even with all those GOOD things, she is still a CHEATER. She is cheating on her BF back home! She has been getting on the dating apps and getting her lay on whenever she has time. I have seen her do a video call with her BF back home and say "I love you". Then later that same day go out with another dude. What prompted me to write this was this past weekend. She flew home just for the weekend, two nights, and came back to my GF's house. I asked her "Did you see (BF) while you were home?" She said "No, I didn't have time". I don't think she even told him she was coming home. But then she said she went to a party and hooked up with another guy! :-( WOW. My conclusion: even the sweet and nice ones will cheat if given a chance. I really think it's programmed in them deeper than the world ever thought. Even in the ones who are really nice people otherwise. The risk of getting caught is low for her, so she is going for it. I think the only way to fix this is to make it so a man can take action if his woman cheats and scare them into behaving. Something we will never see in the USA and only a tiny few other countries do/will. God help us!

 

[MatureDJ]

My GF has a friend who is visiting her from another state for several months while on a temporary work assignment in our area. 49yo. When it comes to adult women, this friend is about the sweetest, nicest female you could want to meet. She is very respectful to me, very caring. Even helped my mother with some things and wanted nothing in return. I have a lot of good things to say about her.. But here is the issue. Even with all those GOOD things, she is still a CHEATER. She is cheating on her BF back home! She has been getting on the dating apps and getting her lay on whenever she has time. I have seen her do a video call with her BF back home and say "I love you". Then later that same day go out with another dude. What prompted me to write this was this past weekend. She flew home just for the weekend, two nights, and came back to my GF's house. I asked her "Did you see (BF) while you were home?" She said "No, I didn't have time". I don't think she even told him she was coming home. But then she said she went to a party and hooked up with another guy! :-( WOW. My conclusion: even the sweet and nice ones will cheat if given a chance. I really think it's programmed in them deeper than the world ever thought. Even in the ones who are really nice people otherwise. The risk of getting caught is low for her, so she is going for it. I think the only way to fix this is to make it so a man can take action if his woman cheats and scare them into behaving. Something we will never see in the USA and only a tiny few other countries do/will. God help us!

 

[The Duke]

Years ago I was banging my physical therapist who was married. We were sitting in her car in a parking lot and I had my fingers in her while she was on the phone with her husband telling him she was Christmas shopping and was going to be home late.

She came across as one of those sweet, kind, caring ones too.

Anyone of them can cheat for a multitude of reasons. Men too. I've got some male friends that have been caught and are still married.

 

[Bokanovsky]

One thing I've noticed about "nice" and "sweet" women is that they often date men that they are not attracted too. I think it happens because they have a hard time saying no to clingy/persistent beta males who do "nice" things for them. This phenomenon is less common today (as there are fewer "nice and sweet" women around) but it still exists. But just because she allowed herself to be guilt-tripped into a relationship with a guy she doesn't really like does not mean that she won't take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves.

 

[Juanto]

Even the sweetest, warmest, nicest female will commit adultery if she's not banged properly.

Very much agree to this, the sexual part and its satisfaction is very important for men AND women

 

[Manure Spherian]

Yes, even unassuming people cheat. But what’s goofy is the notion that all taken people cheat or would cheat it given opportunities. It’s as goofy as the notion that it’s impossible to quit porn.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I think the only way to fix this is to make it so a man can take action if his woman cheats and scare them into behaving.

This actually used to be an actual thing in the West along with allowed exacting of revenge on the man a woman cheated with. Adulterous wives were also considered rock bottom.

 

[logicallefty]

One thing I've noticed about "nice" and "sweet" women is that they often date men that they are not attracted too. I think it happens because they have a hard time saying no to clingy/persistent beta males who do "nice" things for them. This phenomenon is less common today (as there are fewer "nice and sweet" women around) but it still exists. But just because she allowed herself to be guilt-tripped into a relationship with a guy she doesn't really like does not mean that she won't take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves.

I have noticed this too.

I have also concluded that women who are particularly close to family will date men who they are proud to take home and introduce to the family but may not be their #1 top pick (Chad, Tyrone, etc). This works for a while but it catches up with them eventually. Then they have to lie to the family about why they dumped the GOOD guy, make up a bunch of crap that he did and paint him into an evil monster.. Just so they don't have to look the family in the eye and say "yeah he was a nice guy but he didn't make my v@g tingle and I wanted someone who did".

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You never know what's going on in a relationship unless you are in it.

Likely her BF has lost her respect and she in going down the road of monkey branching to replace him.

He also isn't probably getting any and they have a dead bedroom.

It sucks, but that's why as a man you have to cut women loose and not try to "hold on" for as long as you can because this is what it leads to.

She has probably done a bunch of stuff that in her mind should have made him dump her and he hasn't and over time his refusal to do it lowers her respect even more. One day she will just do it for him.

 

[Gamisch]

Remember fellas:,she's not yours it's just your turn...

The main problem imo is that it takes ONE moment of weakness to lose your " long term investment " ( aka gf/ wife). She has to be just as if not more trustworthy if the investments getting bigger.

Now you bought a house and have kids with a woman who basically does what the socalled " thot" from around the corner would also do. Now your "stable and strong" woman will kill the relationship and investments because she feels a p00sy tingle..

Doomed is the man who is unable to walk away from a woman like this due to reasons other than "just emotions ". Most men think they are smart and lock down a woman ,but eventually find themselves being checkmated by her..a tale as old as time.

 

[The Duke]

Remember fellas:,she's not yours it's just your turn...

The main problem imo is that it takes ONE moment of weakness to lose your " long term investment " ( aka gf/ wife). She has to be just as if not more trustworthy if the investments getting bigger.

Now you bought a house and have kids with a woman who basically does what the socalled " thot" from around the corner would also do. Now your "stable and strong" woman will kill the relationship and investments because she feels a p00sy tingle..

Doomed is the man who is unable to walk away from a woman like this due to reasons other than "just emotions ". Most men think they are smart and lock down a woman ,but eventually find themselves being checkmated by her..a tale as old as time.

In this day and age, relationships are disposable. They all have a shelf life. When a woman isn't happy in a relationship she will either cheat or start acting up.

Notice I didn't say anything about her raising the flag and saying "hey, I'm not happy, lets work this out". They are famous for being indirect communicators and not fixing problems. The guy is supposed to decode all her issues and do the heavy lifting. Thats how you know they are inferior to men and are clearly the weaker sex.

Enjoy them while it lasts, then find you another.

 

[pipeman84]

I think 'Hoes gonna hoe' or 'Once a hoe, always a hoe' would be more appropriate titles for this thread.
Let's not confuse superficial politeness and friendliness with the true character of a person. She's 49yrs old and has a BF ... that alone kind of puts things in perspective ... in other words, if she truly was:

the sweetest, nicest female you could want to meet.

then she'd have a husband and kids, not a BF.

 

[Manure Spherian]

In this day and age, relationships are disposable. They all have a shelf life. When a woman isn't happy in a relationship she will either cheat or start acting up.

Notice I didn't say anything about her raising the flag and saying "hey, I'm not happy, lets work this out". They are famous for being indirect communicators and not fixing problems. The guy is supposed to decode all her issues and do the heavy lifting. Thats how you know they are inferior to men and are clearly the weaker sex.

Enjoy them while it lasts, then find you another.

If you keep your pimp hand strong and maintain frame and alpha widow her, she ain’t goin’ nowhere!

You think if you were as alpha as Johnny Depp and Tom Brady they’d pull that?

Oh wait…

Psych!

 

[Juanto]

Pipe them down really well and consistently and the chances of them leaving decreases massively

 

[The Duke]

If you keep your pimp hand strong and maintain frame and alpha widow her, she ain’t goin’ nowhere!

You think if you were as alpha as Johnny Depp and Tom Brady they’d pull that?

Oh wait…

Psych!

It took me a long time to realize this but if you are a top 30% guy that scores high in all the categories that matter you will def alpha widow a few.

And what you just said is proof they don't have much common sense. We removed the social ramifications/shame long ago and left them up to their own demise. Now we have what we do. Adapt and play along.

 

[Manure Spherian]

In this day and age, relationships are disposable. They all have a shelf life. When a woman isn't happy in a relationship she will either cheat or start acting up.

Notice I didn't say anything about her raising the flag and saying "hey, I'm not happy, lets work this out". They are famous for being indirect communicators and not fixing problems. The guy is supposed to decode all her issues and do the heavy lifting. Thats how you know they are inferior to men and are clearly the weaker sex.

Enjoy them while it lasts, then find you another.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Pipe them down really well and consistently and the chances of them leaving decreases massively

Unfortunately this is just a male cope , women are loyal to their emotions its all about how much emotion you stir up in her

Rejection and competition are the female Achilles heel they mentally cannot cope with the fact they weren't good enough or another woman was better at getting what was hers

It's why so many women constantly go back to ex's who cheat on them or Treat them like sh1t .....SHE HAS to prove herself worthy to him its like the ultimate deep rooted female fetish

A woman sticking and being loyal around has little to do with sex , its all psychological

The best way to keep a woman is to constantly stir up competition anxiety within her

 

[logicallefty]

I think 'Hoes gonna hoe' or 'Once a hoe, always a hoe' would be more appropriate titles for this thread.
Let's not confuse superficial politeness and friendliness with the true character of a person. She's 49yrs old and has a BF ... that alone kind of puts things in perspective ... in other words, if she truly was:

then she'd have a husband and kids, not a BF.

I really don’t think she is faking the kindness. I don’t know her whole life story. But i do know she used to be really fat and she is like 5’8 150 now. She talks a lot about her weight loss and ive seen pictures. I also know she took care of her mother full time for a while and didn’t date or work. I really do think she is a genuine nice person, but also as you said, hoes gonna be hoes..

 

[SW15]

One thing I've noticed about "nice" and "sweet" women is that they often date men that they are not attracted too. I think it happens because they have a hard time saying no to clingy/persistent beta males who do "nice" things for them. This phenomenon is less common today (as there are fewer "nice and sweet" women around) but it still exists.

I agree with this. There are likely more beta male nice guys than nice and sweet women.

Some betas are very persistent because they believe that persistence pays off.

I have also concluded that women who are particularly close to family will date men who they are proud to take home and introduce to the family but may not be their #1 top pick (Chad, Tyrone, etc). This works for a while but it catches up with them eventually. Then they have to lie to the family about why they dumped the GOOD guy, make up a bunch of crap that he did and paint him into an evil monster.. Just so they don't have to look the family in the eye and say "yeah he was a nice guy but he didn't make my v@g tingle and I wanted someone who did".

This makes sense for younger women but not women 35+ in my experience. The first post referred to a woman who is 49 years old. A 49 year old woman doesn't care that much about her family's opinions. At age 49, a woman likely has parents that are either mentally/physically diminished or dead.

Younger women will care about this, especially when considering a first spouse. After that, it's not that much of a thing.

Pipe them down really well and consistently and the chances of them leaving decreases massively

I agree with this.

In this day and age, relationships are disposable. They all have a shelf life.

Enjoy them while it lasts, then find you another.

In my 12,000+ posts on this forum, I believe the idea that I am most known for is my idea about the shelf life of relationships.

I believe the majority of relationships have a shelf life of goodness of 5 years. It doesn't matter how long a relationship lasts, its only the first 5 years that are the good times. 5 years of goodness assumes at least an average frame. Betas with weaker than average frames won't have a shelf life of goodness that lasts even 5 years, even if a beta gets his relationship to last more than 5 years. There are plenty of beta males in relationships that have lasted more than 5 years.

Frame decay is also a real phenomenon. There are men who start off with decent frames but eventually morph into wimpy beta males.

In an LTR, Year 10 is rarely even close to as good as Year 2. There are relationships that are strong enough and the decay isn't drastic enough to warrant leaving.

The problem with marriages is that marriages tend to extend the zombie phase of a relationship longer. Even with no fault divorce, there's still hesitation to end the relationship. Some non-marital LTRs have a longer zombie phase too, especially when the two people live together. The zombie phase tends to be shortest when breaking up is easiest. Breaking up is easiest in a non-marital relationship where two people don't live together.

Some of my relationships have ended rather easily because there was no cohabitation and there were no children in the equation. I did feel emotional pain when some ended. It was much easier than it likely would have been had there been a marriage, a cohabitation, or children involved.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

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Emotional subject.

The problem is; it isn't the easiest and obvious answer that we should be wary of.

We should be wary of the answer that no one likes to talk about, think about or admit.

The easy answer is: Oh, she cheated because he wasn't performing well in the bedroom.

or..

She cheated because he wasn't attentive to her or her feelings.

That is the easy/obvious answer.

The other side to that is: She cheated because she simply wanted to experience another d!ck.

That is the answer we should be worried about.
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Listen, in the beginning of my marriage, my wife treated me like a king.

I was a good boy, at first.

But after a while, no matter how good she was to me (and she was good), no matter how good the sex was (puzzy was the BOMB)..

Despite all of that, I still yearned for new puzzy.

It was the classic "it wasn't her, it was me" thing.

Now, the sad part about it is; some women feel the same way, on the flipside.
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I said all that to say this, we are living in probably the most unfaithful time in American history.

Cheating is the new norm.

Side dudes are winning.

Lies have more virtue than the truth.

Gaslighting is a cheat code (Google "Gaslighting").

And marriage/relationships aren't valued as much as it once was.

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If you get married, and then magically all of the women at work are suddenly trying to holla at you..how long do you think you will last?

Like death & taxes..no matter how long you run or try to hide; sooner or later it is going to get you.
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If a woman is married and loves her husband dearly, but after 10+ years of marriage no matter how good the marriage is, things will get stale..not even including sex.

Her mind will begin to drift, and pretty soon she will accept that "let's go grab a cup of coffee" offer from that guy at work.

And then it is only matter of time.

And then, it happens.

And when it first happens, she will feel guilty and shameful.

But after a while, less and less guilt.. because guilty or not, she can't deny it was a good time.

The angel will tell her..

Angel: That was wrong, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

But the demon will say..

Demon: Yeah, but it was undeniably a good time, wasn't it?

Pretty soon, the demon will prevail.

Then it will continue..

She goes home, and acts normal in front of the husband, and he doesn't suspect a thing.

This kind of shiit can go on for years.

I am about 80% from advising against monogamy and certainly marriage.

Now is not the time for it..and maybe not ever again.