Even if U have Confidence U'll get REJECTED..

[God_of_getting_layed]

Even if you have confidence you'll get REJECTED if the woman does not VALUE you.

I am writing this post for the few of you that will actually listen. Since many of you(as I was) have been conned by so many dating "gurus" and charlatans.

Now to the nitty gritty. To begin this post I have to talk about SELF INTEREST. You see....women are like men in that they ACT on their self interest. When you interact with a women and make no appeal to her self-interest, she merely sees you as desperate or, at best, a waste of time.
The problem with many us....is that we are completely trapped in our own wants and desires. What many people don't realize is that even the most beautiful women is locked inside the needs of her own, and that if you and make no appeal to her self-interest, she merely sees you as desperate or, at best, a waste of time(repeated).

"Necessity rules the world. People rarely act unless compelled to. If you create no need for yourself, then you will be done away with at first opportunity" R. Greene

You have to remember that sex and relationships are an EXCHANGE. Don't think that your confidence alone will get you laid. Because it WONT. She must VALUE you. Next time you are with a women, think to yourself "what can I provide?" "What the heck am I worth". A good friend of mine once told me that everytime a girl rejects you it's like a man going into a store to purchase an item and the cashier says "you don't have enough money to pay for this". And if you think about it...women already know this. Thats why they work so hard to look beautiful. Because they know we VALUE it. So they spend as much money as they can on cosmetics, clothes, working out, even breast implants(LOL). Because she knows with every improvement she is UPING her VALUE.


I write this mainly for the young cats coming up. There is still hope for the young guys because their ears haven't been poisoned by the many lies that have been told. But if this post helped any of you experienced guys then I'm happy as well (but I doubt it). I am also writing this so you guys don't get CLOWNED(as I did).

Women value a good looking man. men value a good looking woman.

If she sees you as good looking, then by your logic, she sees value, and therefore will fvck you etc.

Confidence doesnt get you laid always becuse:
1. women value a man's looks far more than his confidence
2. When it comes to confidence, you have to do it in a certain way or women wont see it as the kind of confidence theyre attracted to. Sometimes a guy is confident, but not in the way women like. confidence=badboy attitude, not someone who beleives he will be successful (woman's definition, see my other post about this)

 

[rakishness]

Women value a good looking man. men value a good looking woman.

If she sees you as good looking, then by your logic, she sees value, and therefore will fvck you etc.

Confidence doesnt get you laid always becuse:
1. women value a man's looks far more than his confidence
2. When it comes to confidence, you have to do it in a certain way or women wont see it as the kind of confidence theyre attracted to. Sometimes a guy is confident, but not in the way women like. confidence=badboy attitude, not someone who beleives he will be successful (woman's definition, see my other post about this)

I knew this would come up eventually. And obviously none us can argue against women valuing a good looking men. But if you can refer back to the College Athlete/Sorority girl dynamic that i wrote(on this thread)....you will see that women DON'T always value looks above everything. Many times....a mans STATUS is much more VALUABLE. But status is not the only variable that can outdo looks. And we must remember that women don't have the SAME irrational OBSESSION with LOOKS as we do.

 

[insanity]

looks are a foot in the door. i went out with this average chick who i thought should be kissing my ballz for giving her a chance with a fine looking piece of azz like myself. but at the time i just bombed out of school, had to work a garbage job, and did looks save me. hell no! i was dropped for some guy with a big truck.

looks are a bonus to women. thats it. i have a hairy chest and the girl i'm with now sais she thought hairy chests looked gross on guys. thats till she met me. to her it looks good on me. like i said looks are just a bonus to women

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

its still possible for women to date a guy they admit isnt good looking or say that looks dont matter. This doesnt change the fact that looks DO matter to women alot.

Men are guilty of the very same thing. Theres lots of men out their dating fug women that they admit are fug. Theres lots of men telling their GFs that looks arent all that important. The men dating the hotties are the exception, not the rule. All this doesnt change the fact that men do care alot about looks. WE KNOW MEN CARE ABOUT LOOKS.

 

[Lust]

"yes, but that would make her the prize and you would put her on the pedestrial, right?"

Sorry...I forgot to answer that one.
Thats another BS idea preached by the dating "gurus". They always say...."you are the PRIZE". But the truth is many women WANT to feel like they are the prize. This doesn't mean she wants a loser. But what it does mean...is that they WANT attention. They hate to be IGNORED. And because peoples perception of beauty are so different. Many women are insecure over their LOOKS and VALUE. These gives many of us a HUGE opportunity.

This is just one example of this.

What the hell?

You are going to extreme contrasts here to prove your point. If you are the Prize, you are ignoring her? You are going on about how the gurus will con you, but i think you don't have a firm understanding of it.

The Prize theory is by Swinggcat, a well known Pick Up Artist that lives in the States.

The theory is, you convey to her that you are the PRIZE through INTERACTION. I read his book "Guide to Real World Seduction" and i can't remember him stating you should ignore her if you are the Prize.

You are giving her attention, but will you are doing it, you are also conveying that she has more to gain than you do if you were to be together.

I'll repeat that.

She has more to gain than you do, in other words, displaying the VALUE and SELF INTEREST which you were trying so hard to stress.

You deserve some browny points for some of statements you talked about, but this was a rather weak post.

 

[rakishness]

What the hell?

You are going to extreme contrasts here to prove your point. If you are the Prize, you are ignoring her? You are going on about how the gurus will con you, but i think you don't have a firm understanding of it.

The Prize theory is by Swinggcat, a well known Pick Up Artist that lives in the States.

The theory is, you convey to her that you are the PRIZE through INTERACTION. I read his book "Guide to Real World Seduction" and i can't remember him stating you should ignore her if you are the Prize.

You are giving her attention, but will you are doing it, you are also conveying that she has more to gain than you do if you were to be together.

I'll repeat that.

She has more to gain than you do, in other words, displaying the VALUE and SELF INTEREST which you were trying so hard to stress.

You deserve some browny points for some of statements you talked about, but this was a rather weak post.

Maybe I was misunderstood. I don't mean that a women who feels like you are the prize will feel ignored. Ofcourse not. But MOST of us are extermely VAIN. Some women want others to build up their self esteem and stroke their egos. You would at least agree with that?

This is just one of the many examples. It is not important if you agree with any one in particular. But it is important that we understand the big picture.

 

[rakishness]

And BTW. I would love to bring "swingcat" to my old college and spend a night with him at the main bar there. Where the hottest girls on campus party....and see if ANY of his techniques would work. LOL!!! He would get LAUGHED right out of the bar.

 

[Lust]

Maybe I was misunderstood. I don't mean that a women who feels like you are the prize will feel ignored. Ofcourse not. But MOST of us are extermely VAIN. Some women want others to build up their self esteem and stroke their egos. You would at least agree with that?

This is just one of the many examples. It is not important if you agree with any one in particular. But it is important that we understand the big picture.

Their ego would be boosted enough if you were gaming her right and she was with someone she holds so highly in value.

Plus, there are ways to do both. Usually though, with the extremely attractive women, they don't need an ego boost. Their egos are big enough, so it's important to convey to them that you are of higher value than her.

It's usually the less attractive (7-8) girls that would love a man who pays them extra attention, though too much will still lead to them getting bored.

And BTW. I would love to bring "swingcat" to my old college and spend a night with him at the main bar there. Where the hottest girls on campus party....and see if ANY of his techniques would work. LOL!!! He would get LAUGHED right out of the bar.

You shouldn't judge a book by it's cover.

You can't judge him by his name, all well known PUAs have an alias in the community. Swinggcat is a great pick up artist and his materials are more useful than most of the stuff on this site and in the DJ Bible.

I'm guessing you aren't into the "community" too much, so you have an excuse to laugh or whatever.

 

[rakishness]

I hope none of you are discouraged by my post. I hope this post provides some positive insights. And for you nice guys who feel that all is lost...DON'T THINK THAT WAY. Being a kind and courteous person are terrific traits to have. If the women you interact with don't appreciate it..then move on. And just know that it is NOT your goodness that is REPELLING the hotties from you. But it is that your goodness has almost no VALUE to young hotties today. It's the nature of the beast. Personally, I appreciate goodness in people. But at the same time lets all not delude ourselves. I hope this quote will help some of you nice guys out. Its from R. Greene. "...if we play by the rules too strictly, if we take them too literally, we are crushed by those around us who are not so foolish."

 

[PUA]

Even if you have confidence you'll get REJECTED if the woman does not VALUE you.

I am writing this post for the few of you that will actually listen. Since many of you(as I was) have been conned by so many dating "gurus" and charlatans.

Now to the nitty gritty. To begin this post I have to talk about SELF INTEREST. You see....women are like men in that they ACT on their self interest. When you interact with a women and make no appeal to her self-interest, she merely sees you as desperate or, at best, a waste of time.
The problem with many us....is that we are completely trapped in our own wants and desires. What many people don't realize is that even the most beautiful women is locked inside the needs of her own, and that if you and make no appeal to her self-interest, she merely sees you as desperate or, at best, a waste of time(repeated).

"Necessity rules the world. People rarely act unless compelled to. If you create no need for yourself, then you will be done away with at first opportunity" R. Greene

You have to remember that sex and relationships are an EXCHANGE. Don't think that your confidence alone will get you laid. Because it WONT. She must VALUE you. Next time you are with a women, think to yourself "what can I provide?" "What the heck am I worth". A good friend of mine once told me that everytime a girl rejects you it's like a man going into a store to purchase an item and the cashier says "you don't have enough money to pay for this". And if you think about it...women already know this. Thats why they work so hard to look beautiful. Because they know we VALUE it. So they spend as much money as they can on cosmetics, clothes, working out, even breast implants(LOL). Because she knows with every improvement she is UPING her VALUE.


I write this mainly for the young cats coming up. There is still hope for the young guys because their ears haven't been poisoned by the many lies that have been told. But if this post helped any of you experienced guys then I'm happy as well (but I doubt it). I am also writing this so you guys don't get CLOWNED(as I did).

you my firend, are a retard. confidence is the large majority of a persons game. It alone will ADD value to you in her mind

 

[tr0ublemaker]

you exposed a flaw in many people's game, but you don't explain HOW to do that

 

[rakishness]

you my firend, are a retard. confidence is the large majority of a persons game. It alone will ADD value to you in her mind

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep on telling that to yourself buddy. Keep up the FANTASY. That with confidence...you can get any women you want. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

As I said in my first post most of you are hopeless.

 

[rakishness]

you exposed a flaw in many people's game, but you don't explain HOW to do that

I have provided some examples.

 

[persiangino]

My uncle is the biggest PUA i have ever seen with American women. He's tall but not necessarily attractive (has a lazy eye) and almost always sports a beard (Yes! you heard right). This dude gets numbers from women in COLLEGE like no tomorrow and ****S them when they date. Are you going to tell me these women were attracted to his beard or maybe its the van that he drives that lures all these women; or (GASP!) it could be that he's extremely confident and masculine. In fact I will say confidence and inner game is the most important aspect to improve on for a DJ. I know too many men with salaries of 150k+ (Value) sportin nice cars (Value) who can't even get laid because they are pussies.