Even Chad fails miserably on OLD.

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Wow. I would be very willing to bet this has all been deduced from fake chad ad experiments.

I’m considered to be a very attractive man, and on the very few occasions I did try OLD, I did not experience what is so confidently typed above.

My inbox lit up the same way a woman’s inbox supposedly does. New messages steadily coming in every 10 to 15 minutes or so for the first few days. Faster when I was online. Obviously the majority of those messages were dog sh_t, but there were enough 8s sprinkled in to keep me mildly interested in giving old a chance.

Occasionally a few women with top notch looks checked my ad but didn’t initiate. And neither did I. Of the few that did, I was immediately turned off the second I read their bio or talked to them. Too vain, too boring and/or too transparent for me. I’m not an entertainment monkey who loses his sh_t over shiny things.

Of the attractive women I chose to speak with at any length, none tried to draw me into a sexual conversation at all. Even the gold diggers always played a classier angle than that. The only women who did try that we’re the less attractive, more desperate ones who went straight down that line with their very first message. I didn’t slip the bait “like a chad” and respond back asking them more about who they were. I just ignored them completely and never even responded at all. Way too easy = Herpes. Why would I care where they have traveled or what their favorite hobby is.

That’s why the guys out there who do these fake chad ads still get it wrong. They’re only really good at pretending to look like one online. Everything else is still guided by a frustrated guy who is trying to be someone he isn’t in an attempt to figure out the women he could never get.
That sounds like pof. Mostly nasty women messaging first. I did have a cute one message me first last week. The problem is I never catch her online at the right time so I have to send a message a couple times for her to even see it and not get slammed 10 pages back in her inbox. Looks okay but being pof you never know. I think I'll ask for her number anyway but being pof it's a row of the dice.
 

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Yes, because you are running "experiments" of your own. But they are still just experiments.



This is a photo of me.



I didn't lift someone else's picture off of their social media page, steal it from an unsuspecting personal ad or pull it from Google image search results.

Every woman I have ever met through any kind of internet-first method, be it OLD, social media, etc., were always very quick to say that I looked exactly like my pictures within 3 minutes of meeting me in person, as if they were truly surprised they weren't cat-fished or deceived by heavily doctored pics. They got exactly what they saw in my photos.

I can assure you, there was no shortage of messages in my inbox from attractive women I did not email first. Do you know why I never bother to send messages first? Because even as a very handsome man, NONE of the hottest women I tried to contact ever wrote back to me. Not a single one.



The only women who did that with me were of lower quality. The most attractive women on the site who contacted me never did that. They would compliment me on my looks, but they did not get sexual. They composed themselves much better than that.



But not you, right? You're good at crafting together a convincing ad that's fake, unlike the others.
Have you ever thought the hottest ones you contacted might have been fake profiles set up hence why no reply? The times I do see a super hot one, after reading their profiles they seem to have too much baggage.

The HB9 I went out with last week I was very shocked going by just looks wise why she was even using OLD. She had a perfect, athletic body, perfect smile and face. Literally flawless. Someone like her has no business using an OLD site until I found out more about her and her personality I can see why she's having to resort to OLD that her personality is so terrible that her hotness can't override it.

Generally, if they're super hot I figure it's a fake profile or they have personal issues going on inside that make them a no go.
 
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It might explain a few of them, but there are many explanations. Some might put an ad up for attention, get bored and don’t log in anymore. Some don’t want to sift through pages of messages from men they don’t like anymore than they want to sift through pages of profiles of men they don’t like and they never see the message. Some are gold diggers who may not prioritize looks and didn’t get the impression I throw money around from my pics. Some might just think I’m another player....whatever the reason, the result is the same. So I don’t bother.

And yeah, some have horrible personalities or other flaws which is why they are on there.

Old is fine if you’re just looking for a pretty girl for some fun... where you don’t really have to rake them over for all the red flags because you know it’s not going to get serious enough anyway.

If I were looking for the real LTR or the hottest bodies, I’d rather do it through a social event or at the beach with a few drinks in hand.
Yea I'm finding that out too about old. The ones I all talk too seem flakey or some kind of defect.

Eharmony seems a bit better and I signed up for free but all the matches are mostly over 80 miles away and more which I know wont work out. I think old is a bit better though if you're in a major city with big selection. Around here it's a small selection and almost a waste of money to use. See the same faces every single day.
 

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Yes, because you are running "experiments" of your own. But they are still just experiments.
An experiment I've run to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt what I already suspected.

This is a photo of me.

Congratulations. And?

I didn't lift someone else's picture off of their social media page, steal it from an unsuspecting personal ad or pull it from Google image search results.

Every woman I have ever met through any kind of internet-first method, be it OLD, social media, etc., were always very quick to say that I looked exactly like my pictures within 3 minutes of meeting me in person, as if they were truly surprised they weren't cat-fished or deceived by heavily doctored pics. They got exactly what they saw in my photos.
You're only proving my point. If your pictures are you and you consider yourself a Chad then of course women will see it's the dude in the pictures. I'm talking about dudes who run around doing chad experiments that they screw up for the reasons ive mentioned in my previous post and then claim OLD sucks for all men.

I can assure you, there was no shortage of messages in my inbox from attractive women I did not email first. Do you know why I never bother to send messages first? Because even as a very handsome man, NONE of the hottest women I tried to contact ever wrote back to me. Not a single one.
So you never send messages first yet then say all the hottest women you tried to contact ever wrote back? How does one never send messages while at the same time say the hottest women never wrote BACK. Either you sent messages or didn't.

The only women who did that with me were of lower quality. The most attractive women on the site who contacted me never did that. They would compliment me on my looks, but they did not get sexual. They composed themselves much better than that.

Now you then go on to say the most attractive women who contacted you never got sexual. So you never contacted the hottest women as they never wrote back but then the most attractive contacted you and never got sexual as a self proclaimed handsome man.

I can assure you when i experimented the chicks would make sexual innuendo in conversation. Subtle remarks.

But not you, right? You're good at crafting together a convincing ad that's fake, unlike the others.
I'm good at creating an experiment profile and good at running circles around OLD on my real profile. No joke.
 

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An experiment I've run to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt what I already suspected.




Congratulations. And?



You're only proving my point. If your pictures are you and you consider yourself a Chad then of course women will see it's the dude in the pictures. I'm talking about dudes who run around doing chad experiments that they screw up for the reasons ive mentioned in my previous post and then claim OLD sucks for all men.



So you never send messages first yet then say all the hottest women you tried to contact ever wrote back? How does one never send messages while at the same time say the hottest women never wrote BACK. Either you sent messages or didn't.




Now you then go on to say the most attractive women who contacted you never got sexual. So you never contacted the hottest women as they never wrote back but then the most attractive contacted you and never got sexual as a self proclaimed handsome man.

I can assure you when i experimented the chicks would make sexual innuendo in conversation. Subtle remarks.



I'm good at creating an experiment profile and good at running circles around OLD on my real profile. No joke.
I suspect some of these "hottest" girls might be scammers. He replies back but it's not a reply they like or can tell you're not dumb enough to fall for it. Hell, they could work for Match and be employees sending messages out to keep you keep your subscription. match has been known to do that.
 

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I would call that self-affirmation.

Here’s the problem with your experiments:

You’re hiding behind a photo as a license to do things you know you cannot get away with yourself in real life. So every decision you make, every word you type, every message you send is an attempt to escape your unsuccessful ways and is done for the sole purpose to confirm or deny your own predetermined prejudices and suspicions. Very little if anything is actually being drawn from years and years of previous experience and insight with many many women in the real world, as a “chad” who has an armada of such experiences, both good and bad, to draw from. He has been there many times before, has played it many ways before and adjusts and fine tunes his practice each and every time. In the real world. With women face to face.

Basically, in your experiments, you might look like a “chad” and you may do a few things a “chad” might get away with...but you don’t know how to think like one, because you’re not.

You wouldnt need to do these experiments and confirm suspicions if you did, because you would have experienced enough to make all of this unnecessary.

You said women aren’t stupid. I agree. They’ll sniff your fake sh_t out real quick, because they have more personal experience and exposure to the ways and means of men with high SMVs than you ever had.




It’s not complicated. I tried sending the first message the first couple of times I used OLD. Nothing. Haven’t bothered even trying ever since.

Perhaps it never occurred to you or some others, but women obviously deal with a lot of fake ads too. When a very attractive man is found on a dating app actively chasing women around, it raises red flags.




I can fill pages in this thread of conversations I’ve had with women, from online or offline, who made sexual innuendos, but all of these women were of a lower quality despite being attractive otherwise.

The attractive women I have dealt with, and I am speaking from experiences well beyond OLD, who had any sense of class and sophistication never behaved like that through texts and emails in the beginning.

You’re dealing with floozies who are resorting to online dating. And your entire experiment is adjusting to the frame of these women and their mindsets in order to yield “results” for your experiment.

You’re not experimenting as a “chad” with women offline in the real world.

You’re just a digital chad who in reality is still trying to figure out why women are flaking on him before the first date.

This experiment stuff is like a guy who claims he’s qualified to diagnose and treat patients because, although he’s not really a doctor, he has played one on TV.
Wrong. I've gotten many chicks online and off. Grew up with still know and they know me first and last real names of dudes in top tier category. Take a guess why. And it aint incel, "game" or pua fantasy bs.

Never gotten flaked on. No lie. I have dropped chicks many times.

It was just an experiment i did for two weeks.

You're just assuming im some dude who's never gotten away with things with chicks irl because i said i ran my own experiment. You couldn't be more wrong.

Dude for being on this site since 2001 you still dont get it. Shyt. Thats going on NINETEEN YEARS??
 

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I would call that self-affirmation.

Here’s the problem with your experiments:

You’re hiding behind a photo as a license to do things you know you cannot get away with yourself in real life. So every decision you make, every word you type, every message you send is an attempt to escape your unsuccessful ways and is done for the sole purpose to confirm or deny your own predetermined prejudices and suspicions. Very little if anything is actually being drawn from years and years of previous experience and insight with many many women in the real world, as a “chad” who has an armada of such experiences, both good and bad, to draw from. He has been there many times before, has played it many ways before and adjusts and fine tunes his practice each and every time. In the real world. With women face to face.

Basically, in your experiments, you might look like a “chad” and you may do a few things a “chad” might get away with...but you don’t know how to think like one, because you’re not.

You wouldnt need to do these experiments and confirm suspicions if you did, because you would have experienced enough to make all of this unnecessary.

You said women aren’t stupid. I agree. They’ll sniff your fake sh_t out real quick, because they have more personal experience and exposure to the ways and means of men with high SMVs than you ever had.




It’s not complicated. I tried sending the first message the first couple of times I used OLD. Nothing. Haven’t bothered even trying ever since.

Perhaps it never occurred to you or some others, but women obviously deal with a lot of fake ads too. When a very attractive man is found on a dating app actively chasing women around, it raises red flags.




I can fill pages in this thread of conversations I’ve had with women, from online or offline, who made sexual innuendos, but all of these women were of a lower quality despite being attractive otherwise.

The attractive women I have dealt with, and I am speaking from experiences well beyond OLD, who had any sense of class and sophistication never behaved like that through texts and emails in the beginning.

You’re dealing with floozies who are resorting to online dating. And your entire experiment is adjusting to the frame of these women and their mindsets in order to yield “results” for your experiment.

You’re not experimenting as a “chad” with women offline in the real world.

You’re just a digital chad who in reality is still trying to figure out why women are flaking on him before the first date.

This experiment stuff is like a guy who claims he’s qualified to diagnose and treat patients because, although he’s not really a doctor, he has played one on TV.
Wait, so you never got a reply back on OLD when sending out a message? I mean granted, just about every man has troubles getting a lot or replies back in the first place. I've read on here PUAs say the average rate for strong profiles is 2-5 percent, but come on you have had to get at least a couple replies.

As for women with sexual innuendoes, yea that raises red flags too. I had a college professor I saw on OKC I messaged and some of her first replies were sexual innuendos and it was a turn off to me. She was real too because I've seen her on match and was able to find the local college she taught at. She wanted to meet up but I brushed it off. She just didn't seem clean. Again, a turn off.
 

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Wrong. I've gotten many chicks online and off. Grew up with still know and they know me first and last real names of dudes in top tier category. Take a guess why. And it aint incel, "game" or pua fantasy bs.

Never gotten flaked on. No lie. I have dropped chicks many times.

It was just an experiment i did for two weeks.

You're just assuming im some dude who's never gotten away with things with chicks irl because i said i ran my own experiment. You couldn't be more wrong.

Dude for being on this site since 2001 you still dont get it. Shyt. Thats going on NINETEEN YEARS??
Don't lie Naughty Ninja.

I've asked you many times, in all ur reincarnated new handles to show a single prove of a single women greeting you good morning.

And you can't even get a good morning.

You even failed at being 'Chad' online.
 

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I never had a problem with women responding back to me if they were the ones who messaged me first. I would say 80%+ always wrote back under that circumstance. I was usually the one who stopped responding at some point, not them.

But when I was the one who tried to make first contact, I got nothing back.

Now keep in mind I wasn’t just trying to initiate with any pretty face. I’m actually very selective. The women that I chose to make an attempt to reach out to first was not only based on looks. I can pick out lots of red flags just from a woman’s picture.

Any signs of Botox, plastic surgery/implants, the feel of the atmosphere in the background, what a woman is trying to convey...I have dealt with such women in real life and they all will trigger warnings to me just from those experiences.

The few women I selected who did not display any of these red flags to me...I never heard back from.

OP is probably messaging every tight pair of yoga pants he sees.
here in Floriduh you see a lot of that BS with lying about age and such. I'll see women attractive but they're really like 44 and not 37 for example.

The bottom line with OLD imo is all about LOCATION. You need to live in a major metro area. The difference is night and day with selection and age and everything in general. I'm from St. Louis and there are many times younger and better looking people on there than here in this area of FL which is growing, BUT mostly old farts and not a lot of young people so I see the same faces each time I log on. If I want to find new faces and large quantities of decent looking women on OLD I have to look at the Tampa area nearly 100 miles from my house. Sucks because most women don't want a guy who lives 100 miles away.
 

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Don't lie Naughty Ninja.

I've asked you many times, in all ur reincarnated new handles to show a single prove of a single women greeting you good morning.

And you can't even get a good morning.

You even failed at being 'Chad' online.
Sorry Spazcel. Your 6500+ post count disqualifies you from requesting anything but psychiatric assistance for yourself.
 

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Sorry Spazcel. Your 6500+ post count disqualifies you from requesting anything but psychiatric assistance for yourself.
We all know you can't and we all know you're got mental health issues, you're been posting in Sosuave for more then a decade now under a variety of handles with basically the same stories....

And that of a nerd trying to be Chad.
 

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We all know you can't and we all know you're got mental health issues, you're been posting in Sosuave for more then a decade now under a variety of handles with basically the same stories....

And that of a nerd trying to be Chad.

Poor Spazcel6500+. You're clown act might be a little more believable as legit if you weren't posting 24/7/365.
 

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You either barfed up some bullsh_t thinking I would bite and now have to call it sarcasm to save face...

Or

You really did make those claims in a sarcastic manner because you suck with women.

You’re so clever.
Says the dude soon to be celebrating his 20th anniversary on ss.

Good God bro. I wasnt even aware this sites been around that long.
 

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Poor Spazcel6500+. You're clown act might be a little more believable as legit if you weren't posting 24/7/365.
Still doesn't excuse nor deflect why you can't get a simple morning greeting from any women after being on Sosuave for more then a decade.

You can't be that pathetic.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Says the dude who has spent more personal time on SS than the guy who is soon to be celebrating his 20th anniversary here.
Says the soon to be 20th anniversary dude who monitors how much time he assumes others spend on ss while claims it's easy for him to get women.


Bb misc has 7 threads on dudes who work out and still have to email women to get replies. Yet you just post your profile and all women flock to you. Cool story brah.
 

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Still doesn't excuse nor deflect why you can't get a simple morning greeting from any women after being on Sosuave for more then a decade.

You can't be that pathetic.
Only a virgin with something to prove to a Spazcel would need to do that.

Sorry goof. Get your wank material elsewhere.
 

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You're too dim witted to even realize that you think it's effective to ridicule someone for being something online that they're not... in a thread that you started that is entirely based on "experiments" to which you openly admit without shame that you are pretending to be someone online that you're not.
Pointing out why "Chad" experiments for the most part don't work then dudes claim not even Chads get women online which is untrue.

Two week experiment a while back. U mad? U triggered?

Settle down. It's going to be okay.
 

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So you do one experiment and then come here to preach to the masses on how it all works?

Cool story, brah…

This was fun little fella, but I'm going to move on now. Welcome to ignore.
Since the masses claim not even chad gets replies on old its a valid experiment to prove he does if done correctly.

Hate to have slapped you around.

Now get on that effeminate ignoring and go along on your merry way sparky.
 

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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