Escorts and Online Dating.

[Julian]

That’s not the point, you completely missed the entire point.

This is to mock value for OLD. You’re not supposed to actually believe she’s with you, or tell anyone that, it’s for women to perceive you of higher value. There’s nothing thotty about a woman dressed in clothes suited for hiking or a restaurant.

It’s a very simple way to fake it until you make it, something preached in the DJ Bible frequently. Modern problems require modern solutions.

I have social media accounts but I never post anything.

If you want to fake social media value then that’s something completely different. This is just for OLD.

I dont believe in fake it til u make it because real recognizes real and fraudulent things unravel quickly because there is so foundation.

No YOU missed the point because its not authentic and when she meets you and sees your not some ladies man alpha type then ur fked. A leapord cant hide its spots bro.

The solution here is to meet and befriend or date a pretty girl and get ACTUAL pics from a REAL outing. I get the entire point this thread is about and to me is pathetic and unauthentic.

Its like renting a lamborghini for some photo op for your OLD for a day just to get matches and a date then when she meets u and finds out you lied about the lambo ur fked.

I understand WHY someone would do this just like i understand WHY someone would lie and fraud about their accomplishments. I just find it pathetic. Do you GET where I am coming from?

Im not against putting a pic in a profile of yourself with a fine female i just think being disingenuous about it is a weak move.

 

[biggoal]

I dont believe in fake it til u make it because real recognizes real and fraudulent things unravel quickly because there is so foundation.

No YOU missed the point because its not authentic and when she meets you and sees your not some ladies man alpha type then ur fked. A leapord cant hide its spots bro.

The solution here is to meet and befriend or date a pretty girl and get ACTUAL pics from a REAL outing. I get the entire point this thread is about and to me is pathetic and unauthentic.

Its like renting a lamborghini for some photo op for your OLD for a day just to get matches and a date then when she meets u and finds out you lied about the lambo ur fked.

I understand WHY someone would do this just like i understand WHY someone would lie and fraud about their accomplishments. I just find it pathetic. Do you GET where I am coming from?

Im not against putting a pic in a profile of yourself with a fine female i just think being disingenuous about it is a weak move.

Anything and everything is fair game on OLD though. I mean a lambo will just look too over the top though. If I were a woman and a guy had the cash for a Ferrari or something like that I would seriously wonder why the hell he's even needing to use OLD in the first place.

What about pics in a suit or nice clothes posing with a mid range BMW, new Corvette or something? Shows you're not uber rich over the top but also not cheap as well. Posing with a 55-65k car on OLD looks more realistic than a $250,00 car. $250,000 makes you look like you're just flaunting money.

If my uncle owned his plane still I'd take pics with that though, maybe even sitting behind it so they'd think I have a pilots license.

 

[corrector]

The solution here is to meet and befriend or date a pretty girl and get ACTUAL pics from a REAL outing.

That's a tall order. But how do you do that without attracting her by having photos of you next to a girl in OLD in the first place? If one can just meet and befriend and date a pretty girl then one would not need OLD in the first place.

 

[Julian]

That's a tall order. But how do you do that without attracting her by having photos of you next to a girl in OLD in the first place? If one can just meet and befriend and date a pretty girl then one would not need OLD in the first place.

thats exactly my point

 

[corrector]

Yea, well, it's something I can live without experiencing. What bad reaction did you experience with a hooker? I'm curious.

Demonic invasion and nervous breakdown caused by it the next day. This song was played on youtube and I just lost it:

I played it before but never had such a reaction. Prior to listening this song I was euphoric about the encounter and felt like I dealt with that type of dirty girl that you would meet at a party and do some dirty business in a bedroom somewhere. Then it clicked and a bunch of bad symptoms surfaced

I had to tell my mom I visited two hookers because I felt I was losing my mind and had to tell her something. I showed my mom the location of the incall places at a later time (they have long closed up shop and left our neighbourhood.) The immediate symptoms were loss of appetite, inability to sleep, feeling nauseated. Inability to enjoy pancakes, coffee, tea or anything, perceptual disturbances to point that I could not drive on my own.

The worst of symptoms was the first week. I had my first hamburger the Sunday morning after the onset of the symptoms which happened the previous weeks' Saturday. Flashbacks of the session occurred but had this demonic hue to it. Unable to watch movies, fapp, look at porn for fear my soul would get zapped and I'd fly off into space. Went through painstaking methods to avoid touching myself, making sure I always urinated and was very scared about fapping feeling I would die if I fapped again.

About a month and a half later I looked at an escort pic. I was able to look at that again as long as it was not the escort(s) that I dealt with. Gradually was able drive but would get occasional nausea attacks. Went on several speed-dating meetings while in this state of mind just for social diffusion but didn't get any matches. Cripping depression would occur which would last for about 30 seconds where I didn't feel like moving and was paralyzed, but then I'd come around just as quick.

Mornings were very hard, evenings were more relaxed and I was more myself. Going to bed was scary because I felt I would get attacked by something while sleeping. If I did fall asleep it was a temporary relief as the next morning it would all come back to me again. There was a piercing jeering feeling like a bunch of demons/evil spirits were laughing at me that I actually went ahead and did this.

I do not like how I look like in my face if I experience pleasure of fornication. It doesn't look right and even if no penetration occurred, I'm not one to be naked with another naked woman that I do not know. I just don't identify with myself that way. I'm a very serious and sober type of person. Can't phase in and out like that and expect that won't blow my sense of mental order of everything.

There is no reaction now if this song is played. In fact, when that song was played about a month later there was no reaction at all like that.

 

[Skyline]

I dont believe in fake it til u make it because real recognizes real and fraudulent things unravel quickly because there is so foundation.

No YOU missed the point because its not authentic and when she meets you and sees your not some ladies man alpha type then ur fked. A leapord cant hide its spots bro.

The solution here is to meet and befriend or date a pretty girl and get ACTUAL pics from a REAL outing. I get the entire point this thread is about and to me is pathetic and unauthentic.

Its like renting a lamborghini for some photo op for your OLD for a day just to get matches and a date then when she meets u and finds out you lied about the lambo ur fked.

I understand WHY someone would do this just like i understand WHY someone would lie and fraud about their accomplishments. I just find it pathetic. Do you GET where I am coming from?

Im not against putting a pic in a profile of yourself with a fine female i just think being disingenuous about it is a weak move.

If your frame and social skills can back it up then this is an easy ‘skip the line” method.

Renting a lambo is very different. One conveys non material status whilst the other is material.

This site is about self improvement. This method will give men more matches, numbers, and dates. Through trial and error, they will learn how to interact with attractive women and develop their own methods for confidence and social skills.

If somebody really wants to improve at something then they will go extreme measures. Actors, artists, and pro athletes, all go through this.

The goal of this post is to get men more experience with attractive women to knock them off that pedestal. The escort is the fake part whilst the woman they matched with is the real test.

You preach field experience and this is exactly what it leads to. It may be fake but you will improve.

 

[corrector]

If your frame and social skills can back it up then this is an easy ‘skip the line” method.

Renting a lambo is very different. One conveys non material status whilst the other is material.

This site is about self improvement. This method will give men more matches, numbers, and dates. Through trial and error, they will learn how to interact with attractive women and develop their own methods for confidence and social skills.

If somebody really wants to improve at something then they will go extreme measures. Actors, artists, and pro athletes, all go through this.

The goal of this post is to get men more experience with attractive women to knock them off that pedestal. The escort is the fake part whilst the woman they matched with is the real test.

You preach field experience and this is exactly what it leads to. It may be fake but you will improve.

The ends justify the means. You can not learn anything from zero experience. So if you are never matching or meeting anyone from OLD and some gimic or trick results in a net being cast on the other side of the boat and getting allot of fish, then it's a method that will lead to experience. If you can't get to a point of learning by trial and error in the first place then you become a doomed incel.

The only solution Julian can provide is a catch-22 where if you don't need to fake it, then you would not have a problem in the first place. That is not very helpful and just becomes chadsplaining. The only issue with Skyline is that to fake it, you STILL need money and can't be broke with any of this methods. You need credit and money and a job to rent a lambo. If you are going to pay women money to pose with you for social proof, you'll need money for that too. In a sense that's another catch-22.

I'm curious as to whether you actually tried this strategy and if you saw it work for yourself or others you know and lead to a successful LTR/marriage?

 

[RickTheToad]

Demonic invasion and nervous breakdown caused by it the next day. This song was played on youtube and I just lost it:

I played it before but never had such a reaction. Prior to listening this song I was euphoric about the encounter and felt like I dealt with that type of dirty girl that you would meet at a party and do some dirty business in a bedroom somewhere. Then it clicked and a bunch of bad symptoms surfaced

I had to tell my mom I visited two hookers because I felt I was losing my mind and had to tell her something. I showed my mom the location of the incall places at a later time (they have long closed up shop and left our neighbourhood.) The immediate symptoms were loss of appetite, inability to sleep, feeling nauseated. Inability to enjoy pancakes, coffee, tea or anything, perceptual disturbances to point that I could not drive on my own.

The worst of symptoms was the first week. I had my first hamburger the Sunday morning after the onset of the symptoms which happened the previous weeks' Saturday. Flashbacks of the session occurred but had this demonic hue to it. Unable to watch movies, fapp, look at porn for fear my soul would get zapped and I'd fly off into space. Went through painstaking methods to avoid touching myself, making sure I always urinated and was very scared about fapping feeling I would die if I fapped again.

About a month and a half later I looked at an escort pic. I was able to look at that again as long as it was not the escort(s) that I dealt with. Gradually was able drive but would get occasional nausea attacks. Went on several speed-dating meetings while in this state of mind just for social diffusion but didn't get any matches. Cripping depression would occur which would last for about 30 seconds where I didn't feel like moving and was paralyzed, but then I'd come around just as quick.

Mornings were very hard, evenings were more relaxed and I was more myself. Going to bed was scary because I felt I would get attacked by something while sleeping. If I did fall asleep it was a temporary relief as the next morning it would all come back to me again. There was a piercing jeering feeling like a bunch of demons/evil spirits were laughing at me that I actually went ahead and did this.

I do not like how I look like in my face if I experience pleasure of fornication. It doesn't look right and even if no penetration occurred, I'm not one to be naked with another naked woman that I do not know. I just don't identify with myself that way. I'm a very serious and sober type of person. Can't phase in and out like that and expect that won't blow my sense of mental order of everything.

There is no reaction now if this song is played. In fact, when that song was played about a month later there was no reaction at all like that.

I think that's more of your Christian/Catholic beliefs haunting you than f ucking two dirty hoars. In my mind, I would just imagine how many hundreds (thousands) of dudes used these orifices prior to me. The thing I'd be f ucking would not be a human being, but just a masturbatory aid; and an expensive one at that. No, I'll pass. I've never had a problem getting ladies. Plus, there's always the bunker buster one's that are there for a quick lay; not that I do that any longer. promiscuous sex is just too dangerous these days.

 

[corrector]

I think that's more of your Christian/Catholic beliefs haunting you than f ucking two dirty hoars.

I feel the need to defend the statement since I didn't actually have sex with either "dirty hoars". The first lady's name was Suzy and I chose her out of two women in a lewd line-up and kept my underware the whole time and could not get hard. She even bent over so I can do her in her a$$ and even as I went up to it, I could not take my underware off, and it could not get hard.

All that happened there was I played with her hair and danced to her own Latin music while we were both half-naked. (Her breasts were exposed on my chest).

There was no bad reaction after this encounter, otherwise, if there were, then I would not have been able to see a second hor the next day.

The second hoar came from Brazil 2 months ago (or so she claimed) and her working name was Bianca. This time I took some Viagara like herb a few hours before. There was covered oral and then she was going to finish me off by trying to fvck me, but I shoved her to the side and had outercourse instead.

The reason I need to defend it is because I do not think its fair that I had such a reaction if I didn't actually vaginally penetrate any of these two women. Wouldn't it be fair to say that if your assessment is correct, then your assumption that vaginal penetration (aka fvcking) actually also occurred, and if it did not, then it must be something else.

In my mind, I would just imagine how many hundreds (thousands) of dudes used these orifices prior to me.

I never went inside those "orifices". It's more the environment, the bed that I was on the second one, the fact it was downstairs, the fact another guy walked-in as I was walking out who sounded like some old pervert, or payed $ 60.00 by handing it to this lady like she was some vending machine, using their washroom and inspecting their premises (gas stove, kitchen in center, other rooms inside this enclosed area), fact I didn't knock on the door but stood there and it opened. The set-up sounds more of a culprit. If this were a bright hotel room in the middle of the day and I dealt with a $ 200-$300 college-aged escort then I think that would have been a different set-up.
But yeah, the fact that emotionally, this lady dealt with other guys in that same bed I was on, including the same day is jarring.

Now, if I had a bad reaction WITHOUT having sex, imagine if I did. I probably would have died or something like that if I had such a reaction without even having sex?!?

The thing I'd be f ucking would not be a human being, but just a masturbatory aid; and an expensive one at that.

I don't know, I sometimes debate which would be worst, what I experienced with this hoar, or if I got abducted by a UFO. However "just a mastubatory aid" sounds harmless to me and I wouldn't make it sound harmless. A UFO example is more horrific. I still think the comfort here is I dealt with other human being women and not hybrid grey-women aliens deciding to hide in some of these underground hor outfits. But then again, who knows? Some escort ads claim this hor can change her eye colour. You wonder some of these women are human or are so possessed that this is an "exorcist" or hybrid-alien scenario.

No, I'll pass. I've never had a problem getting ladies. Plus, there's always the bunker buster one's that are there for a quick lay; not that I do that any longer. promiscuous sex is just too dangerous these days.

I never said I visited the two hookers because there was a problem getting ladies though. All things being equal, if the Canadian law did not prohibit buying sex effective midnight on December 6, 2014, then I would not have visited a prostitute on December 5, 2014 or December 4, 2014 before that law passed. I figured if I want to try this out, it's better to do it before there is a potential chance of getting into trouble with the law. This was faulty reasoning since law enforcement never came to shut this down and only targeted younger escorts or those who could have been trafficed. Had I known the world was going to be the same afterwards, I would never have visited those hookers and defied the government for passing this law by doing this on the eve of it taking legal effect. This was a political action to beat the government. Instead I duped myself by failing to see God's law over man's law and was too obsessed over manmade law.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Okay, here is my thought. By the time you put all that effort into faking just for the benefit of obtaining more women you could have actually improved yourself.

 

[RickTheToad]

I feel the need to defend the statement since I didn't actually have sex with either "dirty hoars". The first lady's name was Suzy and I chose her out of two women in a lewd line-up and kept my underware the whole time and could not get hard. She even bent over so I can do her in her a$$ and even as I went up to it, I could not take my underware off, and it could not get hard.

All that happened there was I played with her hair and danced to her own Latin music while we were both half-naked. (Her breasts were exposed on my chest).

There was no bad reaction after this encounter, otherwise, if there were, then I would not have been able to see a second hor the next day.

The second hoar came from Brazil 2 months ago (or so she claimed) and her working name was Bianca. This time I took some Viagara like herb a few hours before. There was covered oral and then she was going to finish me off by trying to fvck me, but I shoved her to the side and had outercourse instead.

The reason I need to defend it is because I do not think its fair that I had such a reaction if I didn't actually vaginally penetrate any of these two women. Wouldn't it be fair to say that if your assessment is correct, then your assumption that vaginal penetration (aka fvcking) actually also occurred, and if it did not, then it must be something else.



I never went inside those "orifices". It's more the environment, the bed that I was on the second one, the fact it was downstairs, the fact another guy walked-in as I was walking out who sounded like some old pervert, or payed $ 60.00 by handing it to this lady like she was some vending machine, using their washroom and inspecting their premises (gas stove, kitchen in center, other rooms inside this enclosed area), fact I didn't knock on the door but stood there and it opened. The set-up sounds more of a culprit. If this were a bright hotel room in the middle of the day and I dealt with a $ 200-$300 college-aged escort then I think that would have been a different set-up.
But yeah, the fact that emotionally, this lady dealt with other guys in that same bed I was on, including the same day is jarring.

Now, if I had a bad reaction WITHOUT having sex, imagine if I did. I probably would have died or something like that if I had such a reaction without even having sex?!?



I don't know, I sometimes debate which would be worst, what I experienced with this hoar, or if I got abducted by a UFO. However "just a mastubatory aid" sounds harmless to me and I wouldn't make it sound harmless. A UFO example is more horrific. I still think the comfort here is I dealt with other human being women and not hybrid grey-women aliens deciding to hide in some of these underground hor outfits. But then again, who knows? Some escort ads claim this hor can change her eye colour. You wonder some of these women are human or are so possessed that this is an "exorcist" or hybrid-alien scenario.



I never said I visited the two hookers because there was a problem getting ladies though. All things being equal, if the Canadian law did not prohibit buying sex effective midnight on December 6, 2014, then I would not have visited a prostitute on December 5, 2014 or December 4, 2014 before that law passed. I figured if I want to try this out, it's better to do it before there is a potential chance of getting into trouble with the law. This was faulty reasoning since law enforcement never came to shut this down and only targeted younger escorts or those who could have been trafficed. Had I known the world was going to be the same afterwards, I would never have visited those hookers and defied the government for passing this law by doing this on the eve of it taking legal effect. This was a political action to beat the government. Instead I duped myself by failing to see God's law over man's law and was too obsessed over manmade law.

I think you need to find a way to get through your emotional issues and sex.

 

[corrector]

I think you need to find a way to get through your emotional issues and sex.

I don't think so:

This guy charges $ 300 US for a skype exorcism. I'm fortunate enough to have got rid of them without using his services. But you may need to have some extra cash standing by if using a prostitute again as you never know if you might need his services to get rid of the demons again, faster next time hopefully. But I'm not taking that risk.

 

[biggoal]

I think it would work best if you're in an area with a lot of women on old. I wouldn't go out and spend 100s or 1000 bucks renting cars and women if in your area old only has like 20 women within 50 miles who are decent.

 

[RickTheToad]

I don't think so:

This guy charges $ 300 US for a skype exorcism. I'm fortunate enough to have got rid of them without using his services. But you may need to have some extra cash standing by if using a prostitute again as you never know if you might need his services to get rid of the demons again, faster next time hopefully. But I'm not taking that risk.

If you believe in that religious stuff, you shouldn't be here.. It's against your religious beliefs.

I think it would work best if you're in an area with a lot of women on old. I wouldn't go out and spend 100s or 1000 bucks renting cars and women if in your area old only has like 20 women within 50 miles who are decent.

YOU need escort desperately.

 

[corrector]

I think it would work best if you're in an area with a lot of women on old. I wouldn't go out and spend 100s or 1000 bucks renting cars and women if in your area old only has like 20 women within 50 miles who are decent.

If you believe in that religious stuff, you shouldn't be here.. It's against your religious beliefs.



YOU need escort desperately.

God made women.

 

[biggoal]

That’s right. If OLD is easy for anyone, it’s those guys with 6 pack abs.

Just by having a 6 pack you are at least entitled to 1 out of every 10 women minimum.

I don’t know why guys act like success with women = climbing mt. Everest.

But then on their profiles they list no gym pic guys. I think it depends on the type of old site as well.

 

[biggoal]

Like I said 1 out of every 10 women will jump all over that 6 pack guy. You need to learn about demographics. There is no such thing as "women" or "all women." When I see questions like "What do women want?" I know the guy is a virgin because women in different demographics want different things.

If you don't think there is a demographic for guys with 6 pack abs then you are just stupid.

The first step is to figure out what demographic of women you appeal to. And the second step is to find them. And after that, they just come to you.

Like tinder or pof I can see showing them off would be helpful compared to eharmony or match for example. Different old apps seem to attract different women as well.

 

[MatureDJ]

So you know how escorts charge for sex? Well what if I told you that I’ve been using a method that uses escorts, not for sex, for online dating.

Think about it.

Women are attracted to men whom have high social value and being seen with an attractive women ticks off boxes for them.

What if I told you that I spend $50-$75 per hot escort to just take a bunch of pictures with?

I got this idea based off of businesses investing. You invest in something and let it grow for further opportunities.

I’m about a 7/10 and attract women similar to that range and below. What if I told that this method boosted my results into consistent 7+/10’s?

We all know women find a man more attractive if he’s seen with other attractive women. Escorts will gladly go on mock dates/events with you and take pictures with you. Snapchat premium women are even cheaper.

Instead of sex, I plan social outings and I encourage her friends to join and for her to take pictures for me. Some aren’t on board but most are since it’s literally being normal in life but with me there.

This is a method to mock value. If your social skills do not keep up then you will lose this opportunity so I only recommend this to people who can actually hold a conversation with anyone.

I have a few more online dating “hacks” up my sleeve but this one is very successful. The digital world has created a tilt for women to snipe-select a man but they do not know that the digital world can easily be manipulated.

Even then, this method has helped me interact with attractive women whilst significantly boosting my social value.

Remember, always improve and always capitalize on weakness. Just don’t let it get out of control.

This was the plot behind the ('80s?) teen sex comedy "Can't Buy Me Love".

 

[MatureDJ]

Even the Beatles hired people to hang out at the airport and wait for them when they first came to the states.

Uh, I don't think so.

 

[MatureDJ]

Kissing cousins.

I have been doing a deep dive on my genealogy lately - and I've learned that I have A LOT of kissing cousins ancestors.