Epic alpha...

[Luthor Rex]

Disconnect? No, there is no "disconnect".
Where are you getting this stuff from?

What he means is this: At the extreme we can look at warlords in the Congo who lead men around killing farmers and gang raping their wives and they are alpha males.

Alpha does not equal decent human being.

 

[STR8UP]

Dude, it's VERY far from the truth. It's damn near crazy and way past pathetic. I don't know if he meant it tongue-in-cheek but people ARE taking it seriously...including you apparently. Seriously, people on his site are former nerds who are taking this whole bad boy/alpha **** too far. They are like new converts to a religion, always the truest and nuttiest believers. And this guy, roissy, seems like a prime suicide candidate. And I'm not even kidding...

As indoctrinated and as sucky as I may be, I'm not the one advocating putting a bullet through a piece of women's clothing in order to interest women. At least I have that going for me.

You have a lot to learn about the nature of women.

 

[Interceptor]

What he means is this: At the extreme we can look at warlords in the Congo who lead men around killing farmers and gang raping their wives and they are alpha males.

Alpha does not equal decent human being.

That's the disconnect he's talking about??

Where did I even say that "Alphas are nice decent guys" or whatever?
Talk about making wild assumptions....



Thanks,Luthor.

 

[FairShake]

You have a lot to learn about the nature of women.

If you think all women can be neatly tied up into one category, in this case wanting criminals and men who mistreat them, then I think you could take lessons from me.

I've been married and I have a daughter. I was raised by a single mother with sisters. I've dated over a hundred women in my life of all shapes, sizes, colors, and attitudes. One thing I know is that they are different individually. The stuff the blog in question encourages does work for some. But who would want to date those kind of women? And who would want to change themselves into that kind of guy. I'm all for the DJ mentality, making yourself the prize and your life about more than women. I'm all for gentle teasing since that's what makes life fun. But this stuff? You're selling your soul for pvssy and living a lie for companionship. And once that lie is exposed, there goes your companionship.

 

[Luthor Rex]

That's the disconnect he's talking about??

Well I assume so...

:nervous:

 

[STR8UP]

If you think all women can be neatly tied up into one category, in this case wanting criminals and men who mistreat them, then I think you could take lessons from me.

This is how I know that you don't think before you talk.

Actually, let me quote that so I can highlight the important parts-

This is true.

I have a couple facial scars from Philly "Gym Wars" where I was known as a "good-chin-no-head-movement" guy. Plus there are two scars on my back from where I was stabbed.

Now, I don't show them off and don't talk about them unless asked. I've found the better women don't bring up until later but even they are a little intrigued.

I've been married and I have a daughter. I was raised by a single mother with sisters. I've dated over a hundred women in my life of all shapes, sizes, colors, and attitudes. One thing I know is that they are different individually.

1) Married
2) Raised by a single mother and sisters
3) Believed in the Quality Woman Myth so had to date a hundred some women to find one

That's a big ego investment and a lot of feminist inspired baggage to be carrying around.

The stuff the blog in question encourages does work for some. But who would want to date those kind of women?

Yea, yea, we get it.

I know, only BPD sadomasochistic whackjob women get turned on by the idea that their man might be a little dangerous to someone who crosses him.

[/sarcasm]

 

[FairShake]

This is how I know that you don't think before you talk.

Actually, let me quote that so I can highlight the important parts-





1) Married
2) Raised by a single mother and sisters
3) Believed in the Quality Woman Myth so had to date a hundred some women to find one

That's a big ego investment and a lot of feminist inspired baggage to be carrying around.



Yea, yea, we get it.

I know, only BPD sadomasochistic whackjob women get turned on by the idea that their man might be a little dangerous to someone who crosses him.

[/sarcasm]

Why do you assume my scars were gotten through criminal dealings on my part? I think I pointed out very clearly that my facial scars are from boxing. My stab scars were courtesy of me walking alone where I shouldn't have been. While carrying textbooks. After spending all night studying Anatomy and Physiology. So much for my bragging about my criminal past...

Funny that I apparently have the ego about knowing women when you were the condescending snot that bragged about his all-knowing and all-seeing understanding of women, all women, every woman that I must learn.

I know people chief. I know that there are quality women out there as well as quality men. But then, I live a pretty happy and well-adjusted life with a great family, some awesome friends of both genders, and a wonderful daughter. I've NEVER let the LAST WOMAN control how I approach the next woman. I'm just too secure for that. Sue me.

And no, not only BPD sadomasochistic whackjob women get turned on by the idea that their man might be a little dangerous to someone who crosses him. But ONLY Lonely, depressed whack job men would PRETEND to be "bad boys" in order to have sex with women. Teenage boys might pretend...but they're kids. Grown men have no excuse for letting a woman's want make them act ridiculous. I personally can't even believe that would work. I HOPE you don't do it. If so, I don't know you or anything, but stop. Please. That stuff just makes us look worse.

 

[STR8UP]

Why do you assume my scars were gotten through criminal dealings on my part?

Why do you assume that I assume that?

Because you are assuming a lot of things out of a knee-jerk reaction to hearing something that doesn't sit well with you.

In other words, you aren't even thinking your thought process through to determine whether or not it might be flawed, you simply hear something that goes against what you would like to believe and you reject it wholesale. It's easy to do that with unpopular subjects such as this.

Let me lay it out for you since you aren't making the connection.

You state that you have scars and agree that this "intrigues" women".

You then go ballistic on another post about the mere mention that implied violent tendencies might attract women.

The point you are missing is that women will ASSUME that it is from violent or dangerous behavior, and that pushes buttons with them.

Funny that I apparently have the ego about knowing women when you were the condescending snot that bragged about his all-knowing and all-seeing understanding of women, all women, every woman that I must learn.

No, you have an ego investment that prevents you from seeing things from other angles. Most men who are married or are TRYING to get married carry this investment that does not allow them to view women in a critical manner. If you are married it is very difficult to allow yourself to believe that they are capable of some fukked up sh!t.

And no, not only BPD sadomasochistic whackjob women get turned on by the idea that their man might be a little dangerous to someone who crosses him. But ONLY Lonely, depressed whack job men would PRETEND to be "bad boys" in order to have sex with women.

So what you are saying here is that women might respond FAVORABLY to it, but only a "lonely, depressed, whack job of a man" might consider using it to his advantage?

Those are shaming words, my friend.

You probably also believe that men who are unsuccessful with women should "just be themselves". No? You agree that they should change? Then where do you draw the line? Dressing nicely? Leaving a date early when it is going well? Running c0cky/funny game? Negs? All out ass hole game?

See what I am getting at?

 

[Ganondorf]

If it's a big enough scar it will attract everyones attention. Man or woman

If it turns them on, i guess that's a plus. but i'm not gonna go around acting all badass with it when all i did was slip up with the razor blade

 

[fertileTurtle]

Grown men have no excuse for letting a woman's want make them act ridiculous. I personally can't even believe that would work. I HOPE you don't do it. If so, I don't know you or anything, but stop. Please. That stuff just makes us look worse.

I had to laugh at this when I read it. Showing off scars isn't acting ridiculous? Ha. That's playground spit, man. Get real dude. You know women of all sorts go for stupid juvenile crap like that. You want a real scar? How about getting your limbs blown off in a war. That's a real scar sucker.

 

[Al Moh.]

"
So what you are saying here is that women might respond FAVORABLY to it, but only a "lonely, depressed, whack job of a man" might consider using it to his advantage?

Those are shaming words, my friend.

You probably also believe that men who are unsuccessful with women should "just be themselves". No? You agree that they should change? Then where do you draw the line? Dressing nicely? Leaving a date early when it is going well? Running c0cky/funny game? Negs? All out ass hole game?

See what I am getting at?"

I see what you mean.

This has been a big problem for me. How much did I want to change? Where is the line? What is self-improvement... and what is betrayal of yourself?

By now I don't see becoming a DJ as rewriting my whole personality. I realized that we aren't black and white, I wasn't 100% AFC before and had to become the opposite. We are here to fix certain problems about ourselves.

The problem with becoming someone else entirely is, that it effects not just your actions towards women, but towards you friends, your family and people in general. Trying out, say, neghits, isn't a problem because you can do it on certain women, it doesn't effect the rest of your life.

We all face dangerous decisions on our journey. I remember all those posts about how your friends can hold you back and if this is the case you should just get new ones. I once thought this way but I'm happy I realized that even if they lead a different lifestyle and are "AFC" in certain ways, they are still great friends who helped me out all the time, where loyal, etc.

What I want to say is, that you don't have to rewrite your whole personality, just enrich it. Women ARE different, most of my game now is about adjustment, I treat different women differently depending on their caracter. I don't see it as becoming something I'm not, I am all of these things, I can be cool and charming, I can be funny, it's all me, it's all fun.

So in the end, let's add traits and techniques etc to ourselves, but overwriting everything at once will turn you into an actor. Sometimes it's better to change slowly and just go with your experiences.

End of lecture

 

[FairShake]

Why do you assume that I assume that?

Because you are assuming a lot of things out of a knee-jerk reaction to hearing something that doesn't sit well with you.

In other words, you aren't even thinking your thought process through to determine whether or not it might be flawed, you simply hear something that goes against what you would like to believe and you reject it wholesale. It's easy to do that with unpopular subjects such as this.

Let me lay it out for you since you aren't making the connection.

You state that you have scars and agree that this "intrigues" women".

You then go ballistic on another post about the mere mention that implied violent tendencies might attract women.

The point you are missing is that women will ASSUME that it is from violent or dangerous behavior, and that pushes buttons with them.



No, you have an ego investment that prevents you from seeing things from other angles. Most men who are married or are TRYING to get married carry this investment that does not allow them to view women in a critical manner. If you are married it is very difficult to allow yourself to believe that they are capable of some fukked up sh!t.



So what you are saying here is that women might respond FAVORABLY to it, but only a "lonely, depressed, whack job of a man" might consider using it to his advantage?

Those are shaming words, my friend.

You probably also believe that men who are unsuccessful with women should "just be themselves". No? You agree that they should change? Then where do you draw the line? Dressing nicely? Leaving a date early when it is going well? Running c0cky/funny game? Negs? All out ass hole game?

See what I am getting at?

The post you responded was about CRIMINAL behavior or faking it. Then you highlighted my scars as proof that I was hypocritical in my condemnation of criminal behavior. My scars are from legal fighting and the consequence of walking in the wrong area late at night. Nothing criminal on my part. Try and follow along.

Secondly I think you're trying to force your opinion of married men (I'm not married now by the way) onto me without knowing a thing about me. You've invested alot in your theories so much that you can't see when there are holes in them. And most theories have holes, this isn't science.

And yes, I believe good guys should just be themselves version 2.0. Dress nicer, try and be funnier, but don't play a role and lie. It's really fvcking pathetic. Especially at our age. And I'll say it again, however many women are intrigued by scars, only the truly messed up are intrigued by criminals.

 

[fertileTurtle]

the consequence of walking in the wrong area late at night.

DUMB!

Secondly I think you're trying to force your opinion of married men (I'm not married now by the way)

BACKPEDDLE! OWNED!!!!

 

[STR8UP]

The post you responded was about CRIMINAL behavior or faking it. Then you highlighted my scars as proof that I was hypocritical in my condemnation of criminal behavior.

WHO was CONDONING criminal behavior?

My point was that you criticized the idea that women might be turned on by men with a "dark" side, yet in another post you admit that they were "intrigued" by your scars.

Secondly I think you're trying to force your opinion of married men (I'm not married now by the way) onto me without knowing a thing about me.

The one thing I do know is that you are still buried pretty deep in the crap that society has piled on top of you, as evidenced by your hostility toward the idea that women might respond favorably toward criminal traits, or the implication thereof.

And yes, I believe good guys should just be themselves version 2.0. Dress nicer, try and be funnier, but don't play a role and lie. It's really fvcking pathetic. Especially at our age. And I'll say it again, however many women are intrigued by scars, only the truly messed up are intrigued by criminals.

Are you sure you aren't a woman? Cause that's exactly what I would expect to hear from a chick.

 

[King Turi]

Corey's a joke, he's a little wimp.

He just tried to act tough on T.V.

I don't even know how he made it onto T.V, but I guarentee that if he went out into the real world with that attitude (i.e, clubs, pubs, whatever), he'd get his arse handed back to him.

He's big and tough to a female reporter.. not so big and tough when confronted with males, as you can see if you look into him a little more.

Basically, he's a wimp.

Definately not an alpha male in a real world scenario.

 

[FairShake]

WHO was CONDONING criminal behavior?

My point was that you criticized the idea that women might be turned on by men with a "dark" side, yet in another post you admit that they were "intrigued" by your scars.

Again, you fail to grasp a very major detail. I criticized a post that recommended pretending to be a CRIMINAL. Then I talked about my non-criminally gained scars. Two separate posts with very different meanings. It's the criminal part that I had a distaste for in my original post and that distaste is what you are ineffectively criticizing. Read for comprehension.

The one thing I do know is that you are still buried pretty deep in the crap that society has piled on top of you, as evidenced by your hostility toward the idea that women might respond favorably toward criminal traits, or the implication thereof.

So I see being attracted to people who abuse others, kill others, and destroy communities as wrong and unhealthy and I'M the one poisoned by society. No, it's society that's poisoned with that ****. A very defective part of society. I think I'm buried pretty deep with MORALS and COMMON SENSE if nothing else. The part of society that looks at hustling as the end all be all of being a man I don't want any part of. And I'm better off without it.

Are you sure you aren't a woman? Cause that's exactly what I would expect to hear from a chick.

No, I'm a grownup. DUDES laugh at dudes who are poseurs too you know. You should know that anyway.

 

[FairShake]

DUMB!



BACKPEDDLE! OWNED!!!!

EVERY area of where I lived when I was young was the wrong area if it was late enough.

Plus I was 16. Were you 10 for 10 in your decision making at 16? Actually, since this is the internetz I know you're going to say you were. Well played.

As for backpeddling, I'm not sure I know where. I was married, we divorced, I still date fabulous women who I don't approach differently because one didn't work out. Exactly as I said.

 

[STR8UP]

Again, you fail to grasp a very major detail. I criticized a post that recommended pretending to be a CRIMINAL. Then I talked about my non-criminally gained scars. Two separate posts with very different meanings. It's the criminal part that I had a distaste for in my original post and that distaste is what you are ineffectively criticizing. Read for comprehension.

My, how we get up in arms at the mere mention of artificially manufacturing some "intrigue" (which you admit that it does) into attracting women....

So I see being attracted to people who abuse others, kill others, and destroy communities as wrong and unhealthy and I'M the one poisoned by society.

You don't get it. I've explained it ten times I don't know what else to say other than man up and stop being so f'in sensitive. Jeezus, is this what men have become these days? Politically correct, socially correct puppets afraid to embrace the darker nature of women and society in general even when it is of no harm to anyone? Sad, sad, sad.

No, it's society that's poisoned with that ****. A very defective part of society. I think I'm buried pretty deep with MORALS and COMMON SENSE if nothing else. The part of society that looks at hustling as the end all be all of being a man I don't want any part of. And I'm better off without it.

The subject was Women Being Attracted to The Implication of Shady Traits in a Man. You believe that this is a "defect in society"? Women have been attracted to this sh!t since the beginning of society homie. Your "higher than thou" ruse is used by many others here as a buffer to cushion themselves from uncomfortable truths.

No, I'm a grownup. DUDES laugh at dudes who are poseurs too you know. You should know that anyway.

I will amend that to "ignorant dudes laugh at other dudes who seek out ways to gain advantage in the mating game"

 

[FairShake]

My, how we get up in arms at the mere mention of artificially manufacturing some "intrigue" (which you admit that it does) into attracting women....

Nope, up in arms over your lack of understanding.

You don't get it. I've explained it ten times I don't know what else to say other than man up and stop being so f'in sensitive. Jeezus, is this what men have become these days? Politically correct, socially correct puppets afraid to embrace the darker nature of women and society in general even when it is of no harm to anyone? Sad, sad, sad.

Sometimes the voices are wrong and sometimes society or women aren't as bad as you think. Sometimes they are right, but I reverse the right to make up my opinion as it unfolds.

The subject was Women Being Attracted to The Implication of Shady Traits in a Man. You believe that this is a "defect in society"? Women have been attracted to this sh!t since the beginning of society homie. Your "higher than thou" ruse is used by many others here as a buffer to cushion themselves from uncomfortable truths. I will amend that to "ignorant dudes laugh at other dudes who seek out ways to gain advantage in the mating game"

I'm only higher than criminals and those who aspire to be them. Or look like them. That is an extreme minority in this society thankfully, and most people are sick of it chief. I grew up in crime-ridden neighborhoods most of my life and the perpetuating of this crap is killing us. As for suburban guys doing it, well, it's not as dangerous but it's far stupider.

I have no problem with guys trying to up the ante in the attraction game as long as it's through positive achievement and hard work. Inspiring more negativity may work for the f-ed up among us in the short run but hurts the guy AND society in the long run.

 

[Negative_Nancy]

lol That loser barely even knows where he is or what's going on

If this is alpha, then i'd rather be afc