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I’ve been on here for a little while now and have been spending most of my time in older threads.

I do not see end game in a lot of these threads and ideas. There’s no end game. Education is crucial but it’s not an End Game.
Half don’t believe an LTR or successful marriage is possible (most likely the case for the average man), and the other half are trying to reconcile the dynamic between men and women to obtain a family. The hang up supposedly and probably most likely within you.

What Ive noticed in every day life, is when someone doesn’t have an endgame that was your endgame, ie. formulated by you and not some arbitrary measure of what a man supposedly is, you will stop, become overwhelmed, loose interest, and a whole host of maladies that put you right back where you started. Sometimes it’s as simple as suddenly getting injuries while you work out and dropping into despair and even, at times, hopelessness.

There is a reason for this. The world we live in is designed to squash you. Most everything you read, see, participate in or even experience is designed to minimize you as an effective operator. You have no training and even worse, really bad training.

Training is a discipline. The reason a lot of old people, above let’s say 65, are untrainable. They’ve had enough horrible experiences and traumas that they are completely reduced. A former shell of what they once had the potential to be.
Unfortunately a significant number of you will be joining them. God is not going to save you from this. Welfare and even government resources aren’t going to save you from this.

You were born into a culture of $hit. Some way more than others. You were programmed in schools that put social indoctrination ahead of algebra and English composition and reading. The worst part is that you were raised in a world of incompetent socialist mongrels posing as mentors.

Picking up women and having sex with them for the sake of self image is the wrong reason. Why? It has no end game and can actually be a detriment. If you can only get some of these 8s and 9s to have sex with you, then all will be well. Actually it will be worse.

Why is this worse? You will of thought you have achieved something when in fact, you have trapped yourself. The real truth is that you had sex with, in most cases today, An unaware human being. Consumes high amounts of resources and is not grateful for it’s availability. She has no real concept of resource creation at an abstract level. Just what she can get.

I already know that this attacks the thinking process of some men here and it will illicit hostility. Not unlike a guy on another thread posing as an intellect when he has just been beaten down into his thinking from an oppressive environment. I “unwatched” him. Thankfully I found that feature so I don’t have to read his poser antics, when in fact his ulterior motive, when I looked closely, was carefully transcribed to invalidate and squash others. It was well done but I know a true degenerate when I see one. Completely degraded at the substrate level.
Understanding this comes from leading and being responsible for other men. If I put down my most brutal lessons learned they had to do with leading men. Women don’t even register at that level.

Not everyone is going to make it. Accept it. Those who can’t undo their thinking, in spite of their ego, will smile right to their deathbed thinking about how great their “being right” was. There are some men on here who are actually trying to hold you into a failing society and trying to keep you in the Feminine Imperative. These are not men. They are not climbing K2 or flying jets or whatever it is they should be doing. They are trying to save their own fragile beliefs that are failing.

Find your end game and if you say it includes a really awesome women? You just failed. Try again. NO WOMAN on this planet can even actually participate in that on an abstract level. They don’t think that way. It’s not their fault and you are expecting her to be something she is not.
Your end game has nothing to do with a woman. STOP being a girl. That’s how girls think because, for them, it’s true. They have to have a man and/or our resources to survive. That is nothing more than fact, yet you think a woman contributes in an abstract way. She has no fukking clue at the base level, of what you are even talking about or especially what it feels like.
 
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Once you get validation it becomes incredibly hard to break away from it. It becomes a life long obsession. Never need praise or approval.
 

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The idea that a woman cannot understand these concepts is an error. I am a woman and I understand it perfectly.

In fact I am raising my children to understand it like this:

“Look. The world doesn’t care about you. The world owes you nothing. You are entitled to nothing. You must love yourself and look after yourself. You must strive and struggle and seek meaning in your life. On your deathbed there will only remain your accomplishments and your relationships. If you can understand this you will be ahead in perspective but are still required to ACT to manifest meaning & purpose in your life.”

That is true for all humans, male or female. Are the goals and ways of fulfilling the goals different based on gender? They can be. They are best as compliments to one another.

I agree with some of what the OP says but then he goes off into this line of thought that women are incapable of this or that. Not so.

Are many women opportunistic? No question. But that doesn’t mean incapable. Do not underestimate others. Well. Do so at your own peril. I like being underestimated. It’s great fun.

And you don’t want to be that shell of a man at 65 or 70. I know men in their 40s & 50s who are seeing their future in 10-20 years...and it is sobering for many.
 

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Any guy who has achieved female validation realizes that 90% of women are actually crazy/insecure/entitled. Whatever it is that guys are looking for in women, the women themselves are also looking for as well. So no-one has it. It doesn't exist (In those people who are looking for it). Romance as a means to an end is the greatest con in the world. Guys chasing after the validation of women who are essentially empty vessels that don't know any better. Just egos chasing after illusions. Trying to gain a greater sense of identity by chasing the approval of other egos, who by the way, couldn't care less about you. Egoic validation is all impersonal. Noone gives a damn about you. Even people who act like they like you are just doing it hoping you would validate them.

The end goal should be personal development and enlightenment, whatever that means to you. You can't get anything from this world. You can only become self fulfilled and give your gift.
A few people on tjis earth do give a fvck bout you. Not most not many but some.
 

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There is no end of the game, because game is not about tricking women , game is about the dynamic between man and woman, and on a larger scale game is the dynamic between human and other human or group of humans , we call it in professional environment office politics , and in seduction game. I think in science called social dynamic. the only time you will not need for the game is when you are alone and no other human there to interact with.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I’ve been on here for a little while now and have been spending most of my time in older threads.

I do not see end game in a lot of these threads and ideas. There’s no end game. Education is crucial but it’s not an End Game.
Half don’t believe an LTR or successful marriage is possible (most likely the case for the average man), and the other half are trying to reconcile the dynamic between men and women to obtain a family. The hang up supposedly and probably most likely within you.
The hangup is divorce and family court is a one way flow.

What Ive noticed in every day life, is when someone doesn’t have an endgame that was your endgame, ie. formulated by you and not some arbitrary measure of what a man supposedly is, you will stop, become overwhelmed, loose interest, and a whole host of maladies that put you right back where you started. Sometimes it’s as simple as suddenly getting injuries while you work out and dropping into despair and even, at times, hopelessness.

There is a reason for this. The world we live in is designed to squash you. Most everything you read, see, participate in or even experience is designed to minimize you as an effective operator. You have no training and even worse, really bad training.

Training is a discipline. The reason a lot of old people, above let’s say 65, are untrainable. They’ve had enough horrible experiences and traumas that they are completely reduced. A former shell of what they once had the potential to be.
Unfortunately a significant number of you will be joining them. God is not going to save you from this. Welfare and even government resources aren’t going to save you from this.
Its why most jobs are a nightmare for useless people. Automation is killing most male jobs. GM for example. I cannot stress enough about the amount of work men do towards chasing excellence.

You were born into a culture of $hit. Some way more than others. You were programmed in schools that put social indoctrination ahead of algebra and English composition and reading. The worst part is that you were raised in a world of incompetent socialist mongrels posing as mentors.

Picking up women and having sex with them for the sake of self image is the wrong reason. Why? It has no end game and can actually be a detriment. If you can only get some of these 8s and 9s to have sex with you, then all will be well. Actually it will be worse.
Agreed along with following your biology blindly.

Why is this worse? You will of thought you have achieved something when in fact, you have trapped yourself. The real truth is that you had sex with, in most cases today, An unaware human being. Consumes high amounts of resources and is not grateful for it’s availability. She has no real concept of resource creation at an abstract level. Just what she can get.
Women conveniently run through resources. Its Darwin. Its in female nature. If you watch mgtow content or are familiar, you know what divorce rape is.

A man can fap to pornhuh and save money from a skank. The first thing he is going to do is control his seed. He is always at risk the. Moment when he nuts.

I already know that this attacks the thinking process of some men here and it will illicit hostility. Not unlike a guy on another thread posing as an intellect when he has just been beaten down into his thinking from an oppressive environment. I “unwatched” him. Thankfully I found that feature so I don’t have to read his poser antics, when in fact his ulterior motive, when I looked closely, was carefully transcribed to invalidate and squash others. It was well done but I know a true degenerate when I see one. Completely degraded at the substrate level.
Understanding this comes from leading and being responsible for other men. If I put down my most brutal lessons learned they had to do with leading men. Women don’t even register at that level.

Not everyone is going to make it. Accept it. Those who can’t undo their thinking, in spite of their ego, will smile right to their deathbed thinking about how great their “being right” was. There are some men on here who are actually trying to hold you into a failing society and trying to keep you in the Feminine Imperative. These are not men. They are not climbing K2 or flying jets or whatever it is they should be doing. They are trying to save their own fragile beliefs that are failing.

Find your end game and if you say it includes a really awesome women? You just failed. Try again. NO WOMAN on this planet can even actually participate in that on an abstract level. They don’t think that way. It’s not their fault and you are expecting her to be something she is not.
Your end game has nothing to do with a woman. STOP being a girl. That’s how girls think because, for them, it’s true. They have to have a man and/or our resources to survive. That is nothing more than fact, yet you think a woman contributes in an abstract way. She has no fukking clue at the base level, of what you are even talking about or especially what it feels like.
Good Post.

In terms of End Game, if you saw the movie, action and our choices aren't without consequences. There's a fallout.

For me, I want to live a Good life. I pursue self knowledge. I explore consciousness. I chase excellence. The pursuit is self actualization. Stronger version of self.

End game is ironic because its nonexistent. It is smash or next. Repeat. Till dead or D stops working. Get deezed. Travel. Acquire resources. Get paper right. Date.

Star dust warns of the red pill malaise. What you do here is up to you. Our story won't end with the credits and running to a girl on a beach. Its all a lease.
 

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I’ve been on here for a little while now and have been spending most of my time in older threads.

I do not see end game in a lot of these threads and ideas. There’s no end game. Education is crucial but it’s not an End Game.
Half don’t believe an LTR or successful marriage is possible (most likely the case for the average man), and the other half are trying to reconcile the dynamic between men and women to obtain a family. The hang up supposedly and probably most likely within you.

What Ive noticed in every day life, is when someone doesn’t have an endgame that was your endgame, ie. formulated by you and not some arbitrary measure of what a man supposedly is, you will stop, become overwhelmed, loose interest, and a whole host of maladies that put you right back where you started. Sometimes it’s as simple as suddenly getting injuries while you work out and dropping into despair and even, at times, hopelessness.

There is a reason for this. The world we live in is designed to squash you. Most everything you read, see, participate in or even experience is designed to minimize you as an effective operator. You have no training and even worse, really bad training.

Training is a discipline. The reason a lot of old people, above let’s say 65, are untrainable. They’ve had enough horrible experiences and traumas that they are completely reduced. A former shell of what they once had the potential to be.
Unfortunately a significant number of you will be joining them. God is not going to save you from this. Welfare and even government resources aren’t going to save you from this.

You were born into a culture of $hit. Some way more than others. You were programmed in schools that put social indoctrination ahead of algebra and English composition and reading. The worst part is that you were raised in a world of incompetent socialist mongrels posing as mentors.

Picking up women and having sex with them for the sake of self image is the wrong reason. Why? It has no end game and can actually be a detriment. If you can only get some of these 8s and 9s to have sex with you, then all will be well. Actually it will be worse.

Why is this worse? You will of thought you have achieved something when in fact, you have trapped yourself. The real truth is that you had sex with, in most cases today, An unaware human being. Consumes high amounts of resources and is not grateful for it’s availability. She has no real concept of resource creation at an abstract level. Just what she can get.

I already know that this attacks the thinking process of some men here and it will illicit hostility. Not unlike a guy on another thread posing as an intellect when he has just been beaten down into his thinking from an oppressive environment. I “unwatched” him. Thankfully I found that feature so I don’t have to read his poser antics, when in fact his ulterior motive, when I looked closely, was carefully transcribed to invalidate and squash others. It was well done but I know a true degenerate when I see one. Completely degraded at the substrate level.
Understanding this comes from leading and being responsible for other men. If I put down my most brutal lessons learned they had to do with leading men. Women don’t even register at that level.

Not everyone is going to make it. Accept it. Those who can’t undo their thinking, in spite of their ego, will smile right to their deathbed thinking about how great their “being right” was. There are some men on here who are actually trying to hold you into a failing society and trying to keep you in the Feminine Imperative. These are not men. They are not climbing K2 or flying jets or whatever it is they should be doing. They are trying to save their own fragile beliefs that are failing.

Find your end game and if you say it includes a really awesome women? You just failed. Try again. NO WOMAN on this planet can even actually participate in that on an abstract level. They don’t think that way. It’s not their fault and you are expecting her to be something she is not.
Your end game has nothing to do with a woman. STOP being a girl. That’s how girls think because, for them, it’s true. They have to have a man and/or our resources to survive. That is nothing more than fact, yet you think a woman contributes in an abstract way. She has no fukking clue at the base level, of what you are even talking about or especially what it feels like.
This represents the most significant point of being red pill aware. It is the science behind female attraction, but the true essence lies in your understanding and embodiment of masculinity. What women truly crave is a capable man (capable- small word, huge implications). Capable of of not only taking care of yourself, but of anybody that cares to join you, and it is that act of submission that fulfills the feminine ego and generates desire. I believe the true Don Juan is not trying to be a DJ, but rather, just a man (another small word)
 

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This represents the most significant point of being red pill aware. It is the science behind female attraction, but the true essence lies in your understanding and embodiment of masculinity. What women truly crave is a capable man (capable- small word, huge implications). Capable of of not only taking care of yourself, but of anybody that cares to join you, and it is that act of submission that fulfills the feminine ego and generates desire. I believe the true Don Juan is not trying to be a DJ, but rather, just a man (another small word)
Good post
 

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I’ve been on here for a little while now and have been spending most of my time in older threads.

I do not see end game in a lot of these threads and ideas. There’s no end game. Education is crucial but it’s not an End Game.
Half don’t believe an LTR or successful marriage is possible (most likely the case for the average man), and the other half are trying to reconcile the dynamic between men and women to obtain a family. The hang up supposedly and probably most likely within you.

What Ive noticed in every day life, is when someone doesn’t have an endgame that was your endgame, ie. formulated by you and not some arbitrary measure of what a man supposedly is, you will stop, become overwhelmed, loose interest, and a whole host of maladies that put you right back where you started. Sometimes it’s as simple as suddenly getting injuries while you work out and dropping into despair and even, at times, hopelessness.

There is a reason for this. The world we live in is designed to squash you. Most everything you read, see, participate in or even experience is designed to minimize you as an effective operator. You have no training and even worse, really bad training.

Training is a discipline. The reason a lot of old people, above let’s say 65, are untrainable. They’ve had enough horrible experiences and traumas that they are completely reduced. A former shell of what they once had the potential to be.
Unfortunately a significant number of you will be joining them. God is not going to save you from this. Welfare and even government resources aren’t going to save you from this.

You were born into a culture of $hit. Some way more than others. You were programmed in schools that put social indoctrination ahead of algebra and English composition and reading. The worst part is that you were raised in a world of incompetent socialist mongrels posing as mentors.

Picking up women and having sex with them for the sake of self image is the wrong reason. Why? It has no end game and can actually be a detriment. If you can only get some of these 8s and 9s to have sex with you, then all will be well. Actually it will be worse.

Why is this worse? You will of thought you have achieved something when in fact, you have trapped yourself. The real truth is that you had sex with, in most cases today, An unaware human being. Consumes high amounts of resources and is not grateful for it’s availability. She has no real concept of resource creation at an abstract level. Just what she can get.

I already know that this attacks the thinking process of some men here and it will illicit hostility. Not unlike a guy on another thread posing as an intellect when he has just been beaten down into his thinking from an oppressive environment. I “unwatched” him. Thankfully I found that feature so I don’t have to read his poser antics, when in fact his ulterior motive, when I looked closely, was carefully transcribed to invalidate and squash others. It was well done but I know a true degenerate when I see one. Completely degraded at the substrate level.
Understanding this comes from leading and being responsible for other men. If I put down my most brutal lessons learned they had to do with leading men. Women don’t even register at that level.

Not everyone is going to make it. Accept it. Those who can’t undo their thinking, in spite of their ego, will smile right to their deathbed thinking about how great their “being right” was. There are some men on here who are actually trying to hold you into a failing society and trying to keep you in the Feminine Imperative. These are not men. They are not climbing K2 or flying jets or whatever it is they should be doing. They are trying to save their own fragile beliefs that are failing.

Find your end game and if you say it includes a really awesome women? You just failed. Try again. NO WOMAN on this planet can even actually participate in that on an abstract level. They don’t think that way. It’s not their fault and you are expecting her to be something she is not.
Your end game has nothing to do with a woman. STOP being a girl. That’s how girls think because, for them, it’s true. They have to have a man and/or our resources to survive. That is nothing more than fact, yet you think a woman contributes in an abstract way. She has no fukking clue at the base level, of what you are even talking about or especially what it feels like.
I’m of the same mind. It’s destructive to place so much value on women, to immerse one’s thoughts in women. It’s a foolish decision. Like a man just gives up on himself, stops building his life. That won’t be me. Never again.
 

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There's an end game but it's not linked nor tied to women.

The end game has always been and will always be about men attaining greatness.

And by then women will be drawn to you, like moths to the source of light.

Men should understand that women are just side dishes, a hobby, a distraction, something to amuse you when you're tired, in need of some R&R and they're important in that context lest we become mad, overtly aggressive etc.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I’m of the same mind. It’s destructive to place so much value on women, to immerse one’s thoughts in women. It’s a foolish decision. Like a man just gives up on himself, stops building his life. That won’t be me. Never again.
Its why I suggest pursuing purpose and chase excellency. Game competence is ideal. I highly recommend not going full retard on game. I did that but, if I don't, likely divorce raped and or jailed. Hard case blue pill is not a good time.

Its weird now. Date hotter girls at 30 i wasnt getting in my teens. The ones from my past trying to slip into my DMs. Seeing the train wrecks from my past, single mom victimhood, and fat as ****kkk, multiple kids diff baby daddy. Life is garbage.

Enjoy the ride playboy. There's no sweeter feeling pulling top form SMV 18-23 now and running into the train wrecks from the past.



Feels good man
 

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Its weird now. Date hotter girls at 30 i wasnt getting in my teens. The ones from my past trying to slip into my DMs. Seeing the train wrecks from my past, single mom victimhood, and fat as ****kkk, multiple kids diff baby daddy. Life is garbage.

Enjoy the ride playboy. There's no sweeter feeling pulling top form SMV 18-23 now and running into the train wrecks from the past.

Cosign that man. I remember people who peaked in high school (especially women) and all I see now is they are either in an unhappy marriage, fat, bored, and posting b/s pictures from the "brewery tour" they took over the weekend. Your posts amp me up btw.
 

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"On your deathbed there will only remain your accomplishments and your relationships."

And you don’t want to be that shell of a man at 65 or 70. I know men in their 40s & 50s who are seeing their future in 10-20 years...and it is sobering for many.
My Father is 83 and still single. He's slowed down a lot. The time for him to meet a lady has passed. He's had a lot of opportunities to be re-married, but never let a lady get close enough.

At age 53 and entering the empty-nest stage, I see myself following the same path. I enjoy pair-bonding, but I'm emotionally independent and don't fall for a lady very easily. The financial risk is real too, since I have a lot more assets than when I was younger. Maybe someone is out there for me, but I doubt it.

I will say, that I think I see a huge difference in lifetime satisfaction between those guys who have successfully raised kids and those who haven't. Make of it what you wish. I'm certainly very happy that I chose to be a Father.

"that shell of a man at 65 or 70" is argument that I've only heard from women. Even the guys that I know who are in happy relationships, admire a guy who is still happy being independent. As we get older, being a single woman is somehow seen as low status while being a single guy can (in some cases) be seen as high status. Hence, the "shell of a man" shaming that I get from women.

To summarize, I agree with the OP that "There’s no end game", with the caveat that becoming a Father and maintaining strong family ties is more important than the other goals and achievements that we can accomplish. At the end of his days, even Steve Jobs felt that he should have spent more time with his kids.
 

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My Father is 83 and still single. He's slowed down a lot. The time for him to meet a lady has passed. He's had a lot of opportunities to be re-married, but never let a lady get close enough.

At age 53 and entering the empty-nest stage, I see myself following the same path. I enjoy pair-bonding, but I'm emotionally independent and don't fall for a lady very easily. The financial risk is real too, since I have a lot more assets than when I was younger. Maybe someone is out there for me, but I doubt it.

I will say, that I think I see a huge difference in lifetime satisfaction between those guys who have successfully raised kids and those who haven't. Make of it what you wish. I'm certainly very happy that I chose to be a Father.

"that shell of a man at 65 or 70" is argument that I've only heard from women. Even the guys that I know who are in happy relationships, admire a guy who is still happy being independent. As we get older, being a single woman is somehow seen as low status while being a single guy can (in some cases) be seen as high status. Hence, the "shell of a man" shaming that I get from women.

To summarize, I agree with the OP that "There’s no end game", with the caveat that becoming a Father and maintaining strong family ties is more important than the other goals and achievements that we can accomplish. At the end of his days, even Steve Jobs felt that he should have spent more time with his kids.
Yeah, women have wishful thinking issues they use to convince men that they need a full time woman. That they need to be in the partnered up world to be happy. Its all crap. They snare young guys with this stuff to keep them on the plantation or get older more experienced men to go back and marry some snaggletooth
 

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My Father is 83 and still single. He's slowed down a lot. The time for him to meet a lady has passed. He's had a lot of opportunities to be re-married, but never let a lady get close enough.

At age 53 and entering the empty-nest stage, I see myself following the same path. I enjoy pair-bonding, but I'm emotionally independent and don't fall for a lady very easily. The financial risk is real too, since I have a lot more assets than when I was younger. Maybe someone is out there for me, but I doubt it.

I will say, that I think I see a huge difference in lifetime satisfaction between those guys who have successfully raised kids and those who haven't. Make of it what you wish. I'm certainly very happy that I chose to be a Father.

"that shell of a man at 65 or 70" is argument that I've only heard from women. Even the guys that I know who are in happy relationships, admire a guy who is still happy being independent. As we get older, being a single woman is somehow seen as low status while being a single guy can (in some cases) be seen as high status. Hence, the "shell of a man" shaming that I get from women.

To summarize, I agree with the OP that "There’s no end game", with the caveat that becoming a Father and maintaining strong family ties is more important than the other goals and achievements that we can accomplish. At the end of his days, even Steve Jobs felt that he should have spent more time with his kids.
A narrative old women uses on men to remain viable even after they have expired.

Always the same old shame tactics is used but strangely it works.

If u r in ur 50's, sell ur assets and move to some Asian country, get a young 19 year old, enjoy her youthfulness, her fertility and spread ur DNA.

End of the day, ur only true biological purpose as a man is to spread ur DNA as much as possible, the rest of ur purpose is purely a social construct.
 

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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End of the day, ur only true biological purpose as a man is to spread ur DNA as much as possible, the rest of ur purpose is purely a social construct.
Fvckin’ A it is. I’ve been saying this for a while now. There is no other purpose for either. Women raise kids and secures safety and their upbringing, men go out and get sh!t done, get a lot of women pregnant, build civilization. Societal pressures or not, this is the design of our species.

Flourish and prosper.
 
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My Father is 83 and still single. He's slowed down a lot. The time for him to meet a lady has passed. He's had a lot of opportunities to be re-married, but never let a lady get close enough.

At age 53 and entering the empty-nest stage, I see myself following the same path. I enjoy pair-bonding, but I'm emotionally independent and don't fall for a lady very easily. The financial risk is real too, since I have a lot more assets than when I was younger. Maybe someone is out there for me, but I doubt it.

I will say, that I think I see a huge difference in lifetime satisfaction between those guys who have successfully raised kids and those who haven't. Make of it what you wish. I'm certainly very happy that I chose to be a Father.

"that shell of a man at 65 or 70" is argument that I've only heard from women. Even the guys that I know who are in happy relationships, admire a guy who is still happy being independent. As we get older, being a single woman is somehow seen as low status while being a single guy can (in some cases) be seen as high status. Hence, the "shell of a man" shaming that I get from women.

To summarize, I agree with the OP that "There’s no end game", with the caveat that becoming a Father and maintaining strong family ties is more important than the other goals and achievements that we can accomplish. At the end of his days, even Steve Jobs felt that he should have spent more time with his kids.
Lmao. I agree with you darling. Do that which makes you happy. If playing the field forever makes you happy then do that...and do it without apology.

I’m not shaming at all. Wouldn’t do that. But I am sharing what men have shared with me in conversations. Unsolicited conversations. I have a number of male friends who are late 40s through early 60s. Serious playboys. They are all handsome & accomplished. Many are BORED with chasing skirts. They’ve done that and can continue ad nauseum. They cite an emptiness. A lack of connection, of being understood. These are men who have bedded hundreds of women. For what?

They are disillusioned. Why is that?

I myself am 50. Big deal. I’m still hot and frankly have very little desire to remarry. I’ve already got one ex and children to support thank you very much (my story is elsewhere on SS)...I have cool friends and someone I date who I greatly enjoy...

HE is the one complaining to me that I’m gone too much, he wants me with him all the time, he’s tired of meaningless sexual whirlwind relationships etc. Loves my wit, my intelligence, my stability & experience...aside from my physical looks, which are still a great blessing...

He can go back to rotations of new conquests as he pleases. He’s over it. The vast majority of new sexual partners offer nothing else...

And his life is otherwise stable & fine. His kids are grown. He’s lonely when he’s alone. Obviously I encourage him in self awareness & growth. He needs more purpose, more internal self love...

Self actualization is the correct path. But it’s not an easy path so many avoid it.
 

DEEZEDBRAH

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Cosign that man. I remember people who peaked in high school (especially women) and all I see now is they are either in an unhappy marriage, fat, bored, and posting b/s pictures from the "brewery tour" they took over the weekend. Your posts amp me up btw.
I was wheeling multiple bishes tonight. Purely for sport. No pull.

Been shifting paradigms. The output of chain gunning cold approach and getting baeeeees has been absurd over the last decade. I could really do with a bit of monk. Mode but its not in my nature.

I see feminine as ****kkk. I just want to smash. I have evolved. I understand that blindness in following my biology without a afterthought.

Seeing train wrecks should debunk approach anxiety for every man. She's one broken condom and twinkie away from expiration. She is star dust and in decline with rach passing month as a new egg drops plus is flushed down the toilet along with her fertility. At least she's got a degree in lesbianism dance therapy and a minor left handed puppetry. Career woman don't need no man. Meanwhile her hotter younger sister is turning 18 at midnight!

 

EyeOnThePrize

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Lmao. I agree with you darling. Do that which makes you happy. If playing the field forever makes you happy then do that...and do it without apology.

I’m not shaming at all. Wouldn’t do that. But I am sharing what men have shared with me in conversations. Unsolicited conversations. I have a number of male friends who are late 40s through early 60s. Serious playboys. They are all handsome & accomplished. Many are BORED with chasing skirts. They’ve done that and can continue ad nauseum. They cite an emptiness. A lack of connection, of being understood. These are men who have bedded hundreds of women. For what?

They are disillusioned. Why is that?

I myself am 50. Big deal. I’m still hot and frankly have very little desire to remarry. I’ve already got one ex and children to support thank you very much (my story is elsewhere on SS)...I have cool friends and someone I date who I greatly enjoy...

HE is the one complaining to me that I’m gone too much, he wants me with him all the time, he’s tired of meaningless sexual whirlwind relationships etc. Loves my wit, my intelligence, my stability & experience...aside from my physical looks, which are still a great blessing...

He can go back to rotations of new conquests as he pleases. He’s over it. The vast majority of new sexual partners offer nothing else...

And his life is otherwise stable & fine. His kids are grown. He’s lonely when he’s alone. Obviously I encourage him in self awareness & growth. He needs more purpose, more internal self love...

Self actualization is the correct path. But it’s not an easy path so many avoid it.
Those are not fulfilled men. In my experience when I'm fulfilled sex is the last thing on my mind. If a woman is willing to go out of her way to give me rides and blow me before I get out of the car every day, I won't decline(unless it interferes with my plans). But chasing tail is a cover for an unfulfilled or otherwise boring life. The complete man goes out to share his abundance because he feels and truly is untouchable in an emotional sense. There is nothing any woman can say or do that will phase him. Paradoxically this attracts women to him. I'll admit that the fulfilled man may sleep with less women, but it's of no consequence to him because he's not seeking anything. They are the cherry on top of his sundae, completely optional. He will only end up sleeping with women that will do literally anything for him because they have to practically throw themselves at him to have a chance to begin with. Even then he may not sleep with them if he stays true to himself and doesn't find them interesting. Two people in this same state is ideal.
 

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