the don of dons
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Sly DJ,
[/B]"If jerks are supremely impressive and irresistible to women, why do I still don't get women when I became a jerk?
I was being a jerk to her by making her wait for me on the date. But I thought girls are attracted to jerks, aren't they? So why didn't she want to go out for the second date? I heard that women complain a lot about how the jerks have done this and that to them and yet they still stick to them. So why didn't I score left and right with women by being a jerk? How do you explain this, Pook?" [/B]
Don't take offense to this (or do if you'd like, but none's intended), but you're so far off the mark it's ridiculous. What you're trying to do is desparately seek the girl's approval by being what you think she wants you to be. As Pook says... a man is a monad, he defines himself, he creates. In the frame of "I will be what you want me to be IN ORDER TO GET YOU TO LIKE ME" you won't succeed w/ girls. A jerk is a jerk b/c he doesn't give two s**** about the girl or whether she likes him or not. That's what makes him attractive (at least in part). It's very apparent that you're attached to her wanting you... to the extent that you'll do whatever stupid crap you hear, be it being a jerk or some stupid pick up line, whatever.... to get the girl to like you. As such, you have no identity, you are not masculine, and you are nothing like what Pook is talking about. One of Pook's central messages is for people to define themselves. You do NOT do this by changing yourself to seek her approval. You have no identity, you become what the girl wants. Think about it... if you are going to seek HER approval, she has ALL the power in the situation. What do girls like (there's a billion different answers to this... but here's a good one: MEN WHO ARE MORE POWERFUL OR OF A HIGHER STATUS THAN THEM. When you seek her approval you give your power away, and she's more powerful than you. Then she doesn't want you. It doesn't matter what you're acting like... this one point can ruin your entire game. If you set the relationship up from the start that you're the dominant one, she'll seek your approval. Then you're in control. THAT'S what you want.
[/B]"If jerks are supremely impressive and irresistible to women, why do I still don't get women when I became a jerk?
I was being a jerk to her by making her wait for me on the date. But I thought girls are attracted to jerks, aren't they? So why didn't she want to go out for the second date? I heard that women complain a lot about how the jerks have done this and that to them and yet they still stick to them. So why didn't I score left and right with women by being a jerk? How do you explain this, Pook?" [/B]
Don't take offense to this (or do if you'd like, but none's intended), but you're so far off the mark it's ridiculous. What you're trying to do is desparately seek the girl's approval by being what you think she wants you to be. As Pook says... a man is a monad, he defines himself, he creates. In the frame of "I will be what you want me to be IN ORDER TO GET YOU TO LIKE ME" you won't succeed w/ girls. A jerk is a jerk b/c he doesn't give two s**** about the girl or whether she likes him or not. That's what makes him attractive (at least in part). It's very apparent that you're attached to her wanting you... to the extent that you'll do whatever stupid crap you hear, be it being a jerk or some stupid pick up line, whatever.... to get the girl to like you. As such, you have no identity, you are not masculine, and you are nothing like what Pook is talking about. One of Pook's central messages is for people to define themselves. You do NOT do this by changing yourself to seek her approval. You have no identity, you become what the girl wants. Think about it... if you are going to seek HER approval, she has ALL the power in the situation. What do girls like (there's a billion different answers to this... but here's a good one: MEN WHO ARE MORE POWERFUL OR OF A HIGHER STATUS THAN THEM. When you seek her approval you give your power away, and she's more powerful than you. Then she doesn't want you. It doesn't matter what you're acting like... this one point can ruin your entire game. If you set the relationship up from the start that you're the dominant one, she'll seek your approval. Then you're in control. THAT'S what you want.