education as criteria in judging a woman in LTR?

[picard]

Do you guys consider education as important criteria when dating a woman in long term? would you date the woman if she is high school drop out ? and you have PhD degree. I do place a high value on education because a well educated, well cultureed woman tends to be more mature, intellectual, methodical in making decisions.

 

[amoka]

Trust me, your level of understanding with her will completely be different if she is a HS dropout. Don't even waste your time. Tell her to get GED or something. Otherswise kiss her goodbye.

 

[MacAvoy]

Given your history with women, I don't even think you should enter a LTR until you've known a women for at least 6 months. Until then I would take the practice from any women regardless of her education level. You need all the practice you can get. You seem to have oneitis with every women you meet, wanting to enter into a LTR after 3 dates.

For the amount of time you've spent here, you haven't made the progess you should have. You really need to get to the basics and even do a bootcamp. I would even suggest don't date a girl twice until you improve your game no matter how amazing she is.

I don't mean to always be chastising you but you keep repeating your same mistakes over and over again.

 

[picard]

I don't intend to date any HS drop out women. I am just asking question in general. I consider education as critical factor in judging a woman mental compentency. A well cultured woman would have superior intellectual skill to raise children. She will be able to pass her knowledge to her children.

 

[Wyldfire]

Do you guys consider education as important criteria when dating a woman in long term? would you date the woman if she is high school drop out ? and you have PhD degree. I do place a high value on education because a well educated, well cultureed woman tends to be more mature, intellectual, methodical in making decisions.

I don't think a person's education is anywhere near as important as their common sense, communication skills, conflict resolution abilities and ability to carry on a good conversation. Some of the best educated and most successful students I've met are also some of the biggest social retartds I've met.

Intelligence regarding life, choices, practical things...those are all far, far more important than formal education.

 

[flexion_]

I'd think in general people with the same education levels would be better in a LTR. But thats my choice.

If the LTR works then who cares?

 

[GirlCrazy]

I don't think a person's education is anywhere near as important as their common sense, communication skills, conflict resolution abilities and ability to carry on a good conversation. Some of the best educated and most successful students I've met are also some of the biggest social retartds I've met.

Intelligence regarding life, choices, practical things...those are all far, far more important than formal education.

Amen. My opinion (as a HS dropout myself) is that you want to surround yourself with creative, intelligent, loyal and motivated people. A sense of humor doesn't hurt either. That's all you really need, whether it be a GF, buddy, boss, etc.

About all a degree (with the years of paying back student loans) is good for, is to get your foot in the door somewhere.

A degree in English doesn't mean that you'll be writing award-winning novels.

A degree in accounting doesn't mean that you'll know Excel from a hole in the ground.

A HS diploma doesn't guarantee that you'll be able to count the sides of a triangle.

I'd almost side with the other end of the spectrum and say that the more educated women are generally boring to hang out with. Have you ever hung out with doctors / lawyers / executives / etc.? They aren't much fun at parties.

I consider education as critical factor in judging a woman mental compentency.

If that's your criteria for judging mental prowess, then you may be in for a rude awakening when you put that theory into practice.

A well cultured woman would have superior intellectual skill to raise children.

Culture and intellect aren't the same thing, and neither are well suited to raising children. The best moms are those that forge a strong bond with the child. Intellect has nothing to do with kissing a boo boo.

She will be able to pass her knowledge to her children.

Parents pass very little textbook knowledge to their children. What you do pass are your values and life experience (wisdom). The "raw data" they pretty much soak up on their own. You can delude yourself into thinking your son will be solving calculus equations at age 4, but don't be surprised when he shows little interest.

Picard, man, I gotta say you're missing the big picture here, as well as missing out on some good chicas.

 

[STR8UP]

I crack up when I see a chick on a dating site that says something like, "If you don't at least have a masters degree, don't bother". I think there was another post to this effect on here awhile ago.

A degree is a piece of paper. It says that you attended classes. It isn't a guarantee of success. It doesn't mean that you are an interesting person. It doesn't make you better than anyone else.

Had I finished college and gotten my degree, chances are good that I might have gotten settled into a job working for someone else, never having experienced the REAL WORLD education that the money game has taught me. I wouldn't have been able to travel to different parts of the world. I wouldn't have the lifestyle that I have today.

You are judging people based upon a commitment they have made. If you are going to judge people based upon that, then you have to take into account that other people might have made OTHER commitments that formed them into an even more well rounded, more successful person.

 

[Macgyver]

Why did I think of picard when this dumbass question was posted. Change your name to Janeway, you're focking up the legacy of the real Picard.

 

[picard]

I crack up when I see a chick on a dating site that says something like, "If you don't at least have a masters degree, don't bother". I think there was another post to this effect on here awhile ago.

A degree is a piece of paper. It says that you attended classes. It isn't a guarantee of success. It doesn't mean that you are an interesting person. It doesn't make you better than anyone else.

Had I finished college and gotten my degree, chances are good that I might have gotten settled into a job working for someone else, never having experienced the REAL WORLD education that the money game has taught me. I wouldn't have been able to travel to different parts of the world. I wouldn't have the lifestyle that I have today.

You are judging people based upon a commitment they have made. If you are going to judge people based upon that, then you have to take into account that other people might have made OTHER commitments that formed them into an even more well rounded, more successful person.

when a woman brags too much about master degree, she is too stuckup. My cousin has master degree hence she prefers to date guys with university education. No degree= no date
My cousin looks pretty hot too. Alot of guys hit on her but she turns them down because they don't qualify. She earns tons of money

 

[MacAvoy]

I do place a high value on education because a well educated, well cultureed woman tends to be more mature, intellectual, methodical in making decisions......................................

My cousin has master degree hence she prefers to date guys with university education.

Maybe you should date her :cheer:

 

[SoCalMike]

no way

dude, if she didn't even finish high school what does that say about her level of responsibility and her intelligence? don't listen to these idiots who are telling you education doesn't matter. pure BS. dropping out is a sign of laziness, stupidity, or coming from a bad home.

i would NOT date a woman who didn't at least finish high school. and if she ONLY finished high school she better have a damn good reason for not going to or finishing college, like a good job for example.


don't believe me? try dating a HS dropout or two, you'll get the picture real fast.

 

[DJDamage]

It doesn't matter her education but rather what she is doing with her life now.

Why would a girl who dropped out of highschool bother me? she could be a hairdresser or a waitress making good money for herself. My criteria for dating her is not based on her degree or how much money is she making but how good looking she is, and how good she is as a person.

On the other hand the most misrable women you will find are those who have gotten their masters and p.h.d degrees and barley have time to date.

Don't look for a long terms, look for short terms while dating multiple women and pick the one that end up suiting you best, regardless of her education.

 

[STR8UP]

when a woman brags too much about master degree, she is too stuckup. My cousin has master degree hence she prefers to date guys with university education. No degree= no date
My cousin looks pretty hot too. Alot of guys hit on her but she turns them down because they don't qualify. She earns tons of money

I don't have a college degree, and I will put my achievements up against most anyone with a masters, doctorate, whatever degree any day of the week.

 

[STR8UP]

don't listen to these idiots who are telling you education doesn't matter. pure BS. dropping out is a sign of laziness, stupidity, or coming from a bad home.

Or realizing the TRUE value of a formal education.

Dude, get a clue. School teaches you how to fit into a system. There are people out there who MAKE the systems, and it doesn't require any kind of degree.

Go ahead, keep the blinders on. I prefer to keep my eyes open.

 

[GirlCrazy]

dude, if she didn't even finish high school what does that say about her level of responsibility and her intelligence?

It doesn't say much. You can tell her level of intelligence and responsibility after about 10 minutes of conversation.

You remind me of a guy I met at a party a few years back. He had an AA degree, and was working for $8 an hour as a technician. He was telling anyone who would listen what losers they were for not having a degree. I think he was driving an '87 toyota.

I don't have a college degree, and I will put my achievements up against most anyone with a masters, doctorate, whatever degree any day of the week.

Same here. It's great listening to successful people's advice. Successful people will tell you that anything is possible if you have the desire and the motivation to see it though.

Most people with a degree will tell you that you need a degree, and to spend your whole life climbing the ladder. Maybe you'll pay off your mortgage before you die.

I work for a small, 10 person consulting company in so. cal., and I telecommute from home in my pajamas from spokane. Does my boss care that I don't have a degree? Hell no, he'd give my 11 year old the same salary if he could do the job.

That's the blessing and the curse of the pay-for-performance society we live in. A star quarterback is only as good as his last touchdown, and anyone that can throw that ball gets his chance.

It's not the degreed folks that keep me up late working, no siree, it's that kid half my age that wants it more than I do. He has nowhere to go but up.

I believe that a lot of people just aren't school material, but that doesn't necessarily make them a bad partner.

Same with me and the wife, although she did get her GED. When I dropped out of HS, I went to a community college, challenged my way into the hardest classes they offered, got straight A's, and then lost interest. Classrooms aren't my thing. I can stand in front of a white board all day, I just lose interest sitting on the other side.

My father only has a GED, but he's also the best mechanic I know and he brings home close to 50K a year.

One of my (HS dropout) friends owns his own auto shop, and brings home 50k a month. Another one of my (HS dropout) friends, who no lie used to live in a cave, brings in about 30k a month writing modem drivers for big financial institutions.

So to those amazingly attractive and highly educated (don't forget cultered) members of the upper echelons of society in this thread, post a picture of where you live so that us uneducated losers have something to strive for

 

[Egoist]

No offense to those of you without degrees, but there seem to be some insecurity in your posts.. "I put my achievements against anyone with a degree" "i know all those uneducated people making tons of money" and so on..

Its really all common sense, guys. Does a degree help you make more money over your lifetime? Yes, its a fact. Is it all that matters or even the most important thing when it comes to making money? Of course not. Does an education make you more well-rounded and openminded? Yes, overall, its a fact. However it can also make you much more limited and set in your views. Are educated people more miserable and boring as someone implied? You're kidding me, right? That's BS.

Anyway, so it's much more about a person and not the degrees (or lack thereof) I've met idiot PhDs and awesome streetsmart dropouts, as well as the other way around. I reserve my judgement for the actual person, not their level of education.

I have my degrees and they actually helped me out a lot, in many many ways, even though I have always chosen my own path and haven't worked for anyone else in a long long time. But then again, I always had the drive, and the thirst for knowledge, and the ambition. I am the type of a person that always looked for a way to apply the knowledge and learned as much on my own as I did in school. I probably would have been more or less ok without a degree, but to be honest, I can't imagine myself without my education. Its a part of me, and I always wanted to have it.

To answer the original question - is it a criteria? of course it it. Deciding factor? not even close.

 

[Good_ol_boy]

But then again, I always had the drive, and the thirst for knowledge, and the ambition. I am the type of a person that always looked for a way to apply the knowledge and learned as much on my own as I did in school...

That's the problem with modern "degrees". Most people seeking them today don't have your attitude. They are seeking "job training" and not an education. "Why should I take an art history class, I'm a business major, I should only have to take business classes". So different from when a degree signified a stage in learning. (Of course at one time well educated persons spoke latin and greek too.)

The biggest complaint from business is that the new crop of "graduates" can't even write a clear and concise paragraph, and have to be sent out for remedial training before they can be put to work.

 

[SoCalMike]

Or realizing the TRUE value of a formal education.

Dude, get a clue. School teaches you how to fit into a system. There are people out there who MAKE the systems, and it doesn't require any kind of degree.

When a person finishes school it shows they have some degree of drive and discipline. They are more likely to come from a better family the more education they have.

Likewise, when they drop out it's an indicator of personal problems.
They are statistically MORE likely to be criminals, druggies, single moms, poor, and so on.

These are FACTS, so who needs to take the blinders off and get a clue here?

 

[SoCalMike]

It doesn't say much. You can tell her level of intelligence and responsibility after about 10 minutes of conversation.

You remind me of a guy I met at a party a few years back. He had an AA degree, and was working for $8 an hour as a technician. He was telling anyone who would listen what losers they were for not having a degree. I think he was driving an '87 toyota.

wrong. you don't know a thing about me, and i'm not going to brag about what i've accomplished. this thread isn't about me.

i will not repeat this again - not finishing high school is a sign of personal problems - laziness, irresponsibility, drug use, bad family, etc. etc. statistics will back me up.

one thing i've noticed is that the people who drop out often try to make up for their own failure by denigrating the value of education. "it's just a peice of paper" and BS like that. no, a degree isn't just about knowldege and intelligence, it's a sign of dicipline and responsibility.