Eating the same thing at the same time every day

[mrRuckus]

But you still have one issue. How the f*ck am I going to eat enough chicken and rice to equal the fat content found in a double cheeseburger or any other large fast food sandwich for that matter?

You're not. I'm still not sure what the fat content has to do with anything. Instead you're going to gorge on carbohydrates and have your testosterone levels drop because you're not eating enough saturated fat because some dumbass on television who won't bother to check her facts because she's too busy being pretty and caking on the makeup so that idiots will watch the news entertainment, told you saturated fat is bad based on the zero studies that have shown this. Yes, zero.

You go on and on and on with one basic assumption that's ridiculously wrong.

I don't care if the hamburger has 100g of fat and you eat chicken and rice with 225g of carbs (equal calories). You're going to put on just as much fat and if you REALLY want to quibble with it, the carb meals are likely to get you fatter. There's a very valid reason why ketogenic and timed carb diets are being used for fat loss these days.

You may be retarded, i don't know, but i know how many calories i'm eating in a day. If i eat 2 double cheeseburgers for 1000 calories for one meal and my goal is 3000 calories for the day, i adjust the other meals. If you want to make the assumption that going into mcdonald's means you automatically eat 5000 calories a day because walking into that magical restaurant causes you to lose all control and eating at home you magically eat only 3000 calories then go right ahead, but it'd be ridiculous.

Sure, the average fast food goer is a glutton but the average goer also isn't a lifter.

I'd love to know what you think about Rippetoe's gallon of milk a day diet and how it's "killing thousands" and causing teenagers to get fat. All that saturated fat, oh nos.

The assumption that 'clean' eating is overblown is ridiculous.

You don't know what an assumption is.

They eat 'clean/lean' proteins (yes there is such a thing as clean protein; that which is lean and does not contain lots of fat) and complex carbs.

You have no idea the number of people who eat low carbs or if they do eat carbs, it's not some ridiculous level and they don't go fat free or low fat. Ever heard of the popular 40/30/30 ratio of p/f/c? That's not exactly limiting fat and eating "clean protein."

Have you even been off of this message board and read any others? A ridiculous amount of people don't eat a lot of carbs. Including competitors.

As far as your condescending "yes there is such a thing as a clean protein: " since when do proteins have fat? Yeah, i can be pedantic too.

Do a search for warboss alex posts on here. That guy eat beef by the truckload and he is a beast. He was even cute since he's British and called it "mince."

But it's pretty naive to believe that a diet of fast food can work just as well as a diet of clean proteins and complex carbohydrates.

See, here's an example of limited thinking. Who the HELL said to have an entire diet of fast food? "Overblown" does not mean "completely fvcking invalid." It just means not nearly as important as people make it sound just like nearly everything in bodybuilding.

People pay attention to the 5% least important stuff.. they obsess over it. Meanwhile doing the other 95% simple stuff is easy to do, but they're too busy being anal that their entire diet is ruined because they eat fast food a few times in a week when it really has about zero bearing on an overall diet. P1ssing in the ocean.

do i have to explain this again slowly? saturated fat is not bad for you. beef fat is not bad for you. pork fat, a.k.a. lard, is not bad bad for you

I <3 Throttle.

I drink raw eggs in a shake with HEAVY CREME. Delicious.

Still waiting for my coronary or at least my cholesterol levels to budge when i get it checked.

Still no salmonella death either.

 

[mrRuckus]

I'm curious, is this in response to something I said?

No I didn't even read your post before I responded to this thread.

I apologize. I am an ignorant fool and will attempt to be more vigilant.

I love you, Quags.

And no there's no sarcasm is in this post as I'm sure it can be read that way.

 

[mrRuckus]

I tried to get my dad to start using coconut oil sometimes, but his cardiologist told him that coconut oil was worse than the devil...

I have a gallon of coconut oil that i keep on top of the microwave in my bedroom (yes i'm cooler than you )

Its mere presence gives me nightmares.

I love you too, nestle quikie.

 

[Quagmire911]

Whatever you say...

This s*** should be mandatory reading for guys wanting to lose weight, its gold.

 

[Kerpal]

Yeeeeaahhh... so if we could get back to the topic now :crackup:

If you were going to do this, how would you do it?

 

[I-tallionStallion]

Some of you skinny dudes would do yourself a favor if you ate Mcdonalds every meal! Most of you don't eat enough to gain weight cause your trying to be all pretty with your food with chicken and rice. If you want to look like a chicken, you eat chicken, if you want to look like a muscular beast you eat beef.

Most of you won't get what Throttle, Mr.Ruckus, Quiksilver are saying til you actually do your research. Go to websites like Ironaddicts.com, Intensemuscle.com, Stronglifts.com, or heck go read what's in the vault. So much information has to get repeated on here...I'm surprised a couple of these dudes even post anymore...it's more of a chore on this website now-a-days. A lot people come on here and want to say fat is bad, McDees is awful for you, and are going by the general consensus of the un-informed.

It's all a matter of how you mix your foods. I'll make it simple - Don't mix Carbs protein fats unless the carbs are green veges. So either do Carbs-protein or Fats-protein meals. If you combine all three that is where so many people run into trouble with fat gain. Get it? Then there's the matter of how many calories you get but that depends on your goals

ANYWAYS

Kerpal, we all go through this I believe. I do exactly what you said you do sometimes. I love taco Bell from time to time. But you know what you have to do it sounds like. You have to learn to say no to Taco bell at 2 a.m. and just tag along with your buds. There is a bonus, you save your money and you will realize it's not all important you get that snack at that time.

The time is now to clean up, I'm doing the same thing. Lets both clean up our diets and get ripped for summer. 1 cheat meal a week, drink once every 2 week and when you do it's diet coke and some hard liquor with NO snacks. Eating while your drinking is the LAST thing you want to do as you know I'm sure. Also I'm working on getting more sleep as I know it can help in losing weight.

What's the diet look like anyways? Take a look at my Journal for my now current diet and cardio plan. Maybe you just need some variety in your diet to keep it interesting. I've run into that problem from time to time

 

[Throttle]

Kerpal: here's an approach that has worked very well for me in the past.

First, decide just how little variety you can live with.

Second, taking into account how little variety you can deal, plan out sample meals for each meal (call them whatever you want, and eat as many or few as you want, but once set avoid skipping any of them--since you know that's how you end up gorging on stuff that you can't even begin to keep track of).

Let's say you can stand very little variety: the same breakfast essentially every day, two or three different lunches and two or three different dinners, and basically always the same snack. (Mr. R. will call you weak, though, for needing that much variety, heh.)

The way you're going to add variety to these meals is to trade in and out various spices, cooking oils, equivalent sauces, meats with nearly equivalent macros, veggies with similar profiles, and so forth.

It's amazing how just varying the spices & oils/fats (say butter and peanut, olive and canola oil for starters) can give you a ton of variety. I can give you some highlights of how to screw around with spicing and sauces w/o changing the basic macros if you're interested. But Mr. R. will call you weak. heh.

 

[Kerpal]

The time is now to clean up, I'm doing the same thing. Lets both clean up our diets and get ripped for summer. 1 cheat meal a week, drink once every 2 week and when you do it's diet coke and some hard liquor with NO snacks. Eating while your drinking is the LAST thing you want to do as you know I'm sure. Also I'm working on getting more sleep as I know it can help in losing weight.

What's the diet look like anyways? Take a look at my Journal for my now current diet and cardio plan. Maybe you just need some variety in your diet to keep it interesting. I've run into that problem from time to time

I'm down. I don't have much of an incentive to "get ripped" from an aesthetic viewpoint, because I'm not going to the beach or anything for a while anyway. This is a disincentive for me to eat clean and etc. because I know no one is going to see my body anyway. It's much more important for me to improve my strength to weight ratios because I want to do a 2.5 x bodyweight squat and a 3 x bodyweight deadlift. Plus I guess it would be good to get in the habit of eating cleaner.

My diet is absolutely terrible. I'm almost embarrassed to post it. I pretty much just eat whatever I want, whenever I want, which isn't too often. For example, today I only ate 2 meals. Meal 1 was: a chicken breast with creamed spinach. Meal 2 was: a cheeseburger with baked beans and 2 glasses of chocolate milk :crackup:

It's weird, I just don't get that hungry, despite the lifting. I have no idea how my weight got so high eating like this. I did used to train MMA/BJJ several times a week, which burns a LOT of calories, and back then my weight never went above 175-180 lbs. But I'm a lot stronger and more muscular now than I was then. I'll try to post pics tomorrow. I'm looking to start that up again soon but I'm too busy right now, probably over the summer I'll get back into it.

I only drink on the weekends, and I don't drink very much. I usually have some kind of mixed drinks, a diet soda with liquor like you said. Sometimes a few shots and beers too, but nothing too crazy.

 

[Kerpal]

Kerpal: here's an approach that has worked very well for me in the past.

First, decide just how little variety you can live with.

Second, taking into account how little variety you can deal, plan out sample meals for each meal (call them whatever you want, and eat as many or few as you want, but once set avoid skipping any of them--since you know that's how you end up gorging on stuff that you can't even begin to keep track of).

Let's say you can stand very little variety: the same breakfast essentially every day, two or three different lunches and two or three different dinners, and basically always the same snack. (Mr. R. will call you weak, though, for needing that much variety, heh.)

The way you're going to add variety to these meals is to trade in and out various spices, cooking oils, equivalent sauces, meats with nearly equivalent macros, veggies with similar profiles, and so forth.

It's amazing how just varying the spices & oils/fats (say butter and peanut, olive and canola oil for starters) can give you a ton of variety. I can give you some highlights of how to screw around with spicing and sauces w/o changing the basic macros if you're interested. But Mr. R. will call you weak. heh.

I think I can stand very little variation. In fact, that would probably be the best for me, to keep things simple. As soon as things involving diet get complicated, I stop caring. I really think I could just eat the same thing every day. A large part of it is that I just don't want to deal with cooking, so if I only have to cook a couple of different things that would be best.

 

[Throttle]

then look for some food threads by quik, he has some great suggestions for ridiculously simple meals that you can make once a week & just divide up into portions to eat the rest of the week.

 

[wolf116]

You're lucky as hell to be able to live off that miniscule amount of food while lifting. I'd eat my own arm the hunger pains get so bad.

The easiest next step to get a good meal in, is just a raw egg and creeme/milk shake twice a day. I also add coco, banana and whey.

You can take these to school in a Thermos with ice.

don't use milk or banana if your worried about your bodyfat of course.

EDIT: you may want to add a fiber supliment since you don't eat many veggies.

 

[Kerpal]

Yeah, even when I get hungry, if I get focused on something like studying or reading something, I just forget that I'm hungry. I know it's a problem when I'm at the gym training and my stomach starts growling though, I know I could probably have better workouts with better nutrition.

 

[Kerpal]

I have cleaned up my diet a lot since I posted this. I started eating vegetables (lol) and cut out all junk food. In the past week I've had nothing but chicken, beef and vegetables. I've been eating 3x a day so far. I don't really get hungry enough to eat more often. I feel like I could eat this way indefinitely without a problem. I don't really care about food that much; I enjoy the taste of junk food, but if I don't eat any it's no big deal.

Meat mixed with frozen stir-fry vegetables, the kind that come in a bag, have been the key. If it wasn't for these, I probably just wouldn't even bother eating vegetables at all because they're like eating paper to me. It's also very easy to cook, if I had to spend lots of time cooking stuff I just wouldn't bother, it's too much hassle.

I've also started drinking crystal light mixed with water instead of soda, milk, etc. I know it's not great for you, and probably has all kinds of terrible side effects but I don't really care, I don't plan on living much past 55 or so which is when most of these problems seem to start showing up anyway. And I have a hard time drinking much water unless it's flavored, but maybe I will slowly wean myself off of it.

 

[Throttle]

sounds good. you may want to find one or two other veggie mixes sometime in the distant future for variety, but then you've said you can tolerate little variety anyway.

i've been consuming vast quantities of aspartame almost my whole life and it hasn't killed me yet. i agree it's probably not good for you, but i'm not a big fan of mass quantities of plain water, either. though never underestimate the power of a good water filtering pitcher to make it more palatable, esp. if your tap water tastes like bleach.

 

[Quiksilver]

I love you too, nestle quikie.

Love you too Ruckus baby.

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Throttle, if you don't like water, try chilling some tea. I mix peppermint/green/white tea and put it in a jug in the fridge. Sure it doesnt taste as good as coke, but its nowhere near as bad as tap water. After a while it tastes good too

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I have cleaned up my diet a lot since I posted this. I started eating vegetables (lol) and cut out all junk food. In the past week I've had nothing but chicken, beef and vegetables.

Join the club mate. Been eating chicken/beef/eggs/veggies for ages... Now if only I could get myself into the gym consistently...

 

[Kerpal]

Join the club mate. Been eating chicken/beef/eggs/veggies for ages... Now if only I could get myself into the gym consistently...

I have the opposite problem. Maybe we should join forces :crackup:

 

[Throttle]

yeh i drink lots of chilled green tea, too. and both hot and iced coffee (in both cases, strictly black). all the aforementioned are homemade and delicious, as far as i'm concerned. but it never seems to completely forestall cravings for aspartame laden soda, esp. diet dew. i'm sure there's a physical addiction in there somewhere.