Dumb fight with GF

[Veridin]

The best approach with women is to not give in to their power plays which her demand for you to say you were a feminist was.

Its a small way of breaking you down and getting control of you when a woman really presses an issue like she did with that.

See...had she dropped the subject immediately after the first few times you refused to say it and just giggled it off then she really was just being silly and teasing you but oh no...this was sh!t test time to see exactly what you were made of as a man.

Would he give in and be beta and weak she thought or will he not take sh!t from me and hold his ground and maintain his own reality?

Well you passed the sh!t test with flying colors.

Agreed. You can't give in to this. Show her that you won't give an inch about the feminism thing, and make sure you have all the facts on the matter from reading up on it online.

Sure, women respond less to facts than men do. But you will show that you can actually answer, that you don't oppose feminism because you are a "chauvinist." And women aren't completely impervious to facts.

Don't give an inch. Don't fall for statements like, "So you think women should stay in the home!" Don't leave it to her to describe what the anti-feminist view is, always think before you say "yes" or "no" to something like that.

If it is a woman with any quality in her body, she will accept that a man isn't a feminist. Really, how big a percentage of men describe themselves as feminists? Not many. If a woman won't accept that - then she is one weird woman, and you need to move on.

you cannot do this because women do not learn from direct communication...they learn covertly from what people don't say...they learn from how people react to their behavior...

Also well said by KontrollerX. Let her know that either she drops her demand that you succumb and proclaim you are a feminist, or the relationship is over. Any woman with quality will drop her demand.

This is the right response by men: make sure that the die-hard feminists are without a spouse and without children. Demographics will then take care of the problem nicely. I know this old feminist "artist" living off government art grants, who is unmarried and childless.... That's the life she chose. She won't be passing on her hatred to her children.



But hey, cheer up. Contrary to popular belief here, there are many intelligent non-feminist women out there. You just have to know where to look.

 

[wait_out]

Alternatively you could turn the question into something substantial rather than a power struggle. There is a world of difference between someone like Wendy McElroy and Andrea Dworkin, though they both are feminists. It's important to flip the script so your relationships are cooperative rather than adversarial.

When girls start to feel that you see them as a fcuktoy, they are going to stir sh1t up to see how you react. They want reassurance that they not just a low-cost replacement for a prostitute. You either reassure them, or they keep thinking and problems continue. If you ever call a girl names in bed and it gets to her, or have more degrading sex than she's used to, this happens and it's fairly predictable she'll pick a fight afterwards.

Most girls don't really give a sh1t about feminism, they just want to be taken seriously. You can at least listen to them, not that you should agree with them.

You do sound like a tosser yammering on about feminazi's and your sledgehammer of truth. Dude you are not a talk radio host. Pay attention to your girl, if she is more than a fcuktoy to you. Show her if she has sh1t to work out with you, she needs to do so directly, not get sidetracked into fights about feminism. Most importantly, if she does so anyway, you need to not get sucked into that sh1t. You need to understand her motivations and get to the real issue if she's not mature enough to do so herself. Rise above the sh1t tests. You are not supposed to pass them with flying colors, you are supposed to teach her she should not be testing you. She should be opening up to you. If she can't level with you and prefers to fight, you are better off without her.

Mike it is pretty immature to be trying to control the terms of your relationship by "flexing your muscles", "reminding her of her vulnerability", or not taking her seriously when she wants you to. She is supposed to be doing the work to live up to your standards, instead you are burning energy because you don't live up to hers. You lead, she follows. Get back in front homie.