Dude chased my female friend like an epic AFC.. and got her ?

[ScottMustaine]

So basically my female friend got in relationship with this guy and I couldn't believe my fkin eyes.


She said she didn't like him, nor his looks at the start at all. Was turned off by him. But he was so persistent he caught her.


So they met on internet, after 1 day he confessed her he liked her on webcam. She laughed.


Then he asked her where is she going one day, and went to whole another city to find her. She actually hid behind her friend not to be seen. But he found her.


So while she was going to bus stop he would beg for kiss but she didn't do anything.


Fast forward more days. He called her out somehow, and took her out somehow... And went with holding hands and ****. They went into some pub and female friend asked him "are you two together " and he kissed my friend and said " yes we are. "


She was devasted and freaked out. Didn't want relationship, but he kept talking about his 'new ' girlfriend on facebook being so happy etc , that she felt sorry for him.


Then she started falling for him.



He gave her a ring his father gave to his mom. But he died.
Dude even started crying when he gave her that ring after 1 month anniversary.


Now he's planning to get married in 5 years.




And her words are " With most of guys I would feel distanced as the days went, but the annoying thing is. I'm getting more attached to him every day even more. "



But, she is all the time paranoid and thinks sh1t will go downward if he proposes to her. Since she is in doubt about him. She heard storries he was a womanizer, talking lies and being in parallel relationships etc.



But God damn it. Dude went afc and he scorred ?

 

[HalfPUAHalfAFC]

Vulnerability game.

It can work, but only in the short term and only with some women. Her attraction is based on sympathy and ego-stroking. It won't last.

He'll totally beta-ize his presentation to her even more over time, she'll grow sick of it and dump him. "I can't believe I actually liked that guy" will come out of her mouth eventually.

 

[zinc4]

I just hope everyone realizes that this is not an example of confident persistence....just merely hardcore persistence...dude is either beta as crap, or slyly faking beta to gain sympathy...wonder if he is banging other women on the side....there seems to be more to this story than meets the eye.....what are her true feelings about him i wonder....the crying thing is way over the top if he is faking beta...

You can say this guy is total beta and he very well may be, but bet your money if he went NC out of nowhere on her she would be having wet dreams about him.......i have seen beta game run and then sharply changed to alpha dominance before to obtain a woman with less than zero interest in the first place...it just depends on why the guy is doing it...probably this case he is beta judging from the whole crying thing...

 

[VladPatton]

This is the equivalent to making a living being a criminal. Can you do it and make some money to live? Sure. Is it recommended? No. I'd rather not do it that way.

It's should be concrete evidence that girls will attach themselves to whatever they like. Alpha, beta, cool mo'D, or chumpdiggity....the choice is yours to pick.

 

[Slickster]

This will last until she meets a guy that dampens her panties and makes her chase.

 

[Uncharted]

This is interesting and all, but there are probably 10 million stories where this does not work out and she calls the cops on you.

 

[Wolfbones]

It doesn't matter how persistent you'll be, you won't get every girl you want. I've been persistent as hell for some years, but still. Nothing. She ended up with other guys while I just.. well... y'know the drill.

 

[yuppaz]

The interesting thing to me is that we are all assuming that Alpha is being aloof, where as in nature the alpha isn't always the most aloof, or careless one, the Alpha is the one that goes for what he wants. This guy was very persistent and ignored her **** tests. He sound like he has a sh*t ton of issues that your friend has a hole in her boundaries for though. Not gonna end well.

 

[goundra]

what most of you are is a bunch of pussies. No wonder that most desirable women wont have you.

 

[Darth]

The interesting thing to me is that we are all assuming that Alpha is being aloof, where as in nature the alpha isn't always the most aloof, or careless one, the Alpha is the one that goes for what he wants. This guy was very persistent.

Bingo. This supports my previous post that the "chode" who chases a woman all over the place seems like he disgusts women, but he is actually more respected than the AFC who pines in secrecy or the socalled DJ who pretends not to want her but secretly does just like the AFC.

The "chode" is honest- he wants the girl and he is going around chasing her. This sets up the hunter/hunted dynamic, the warrior dynamic that is fundamental to real man/woman relationships. Of course she was attracted- the idea of a man tracking you down and "hunting" you probably turned her on.

Now, the crying- that's a different story. He had better watch it with that. But overall, this very much supports my philosophy that the inner self and outer self should match and you should have no secrets or private life whatsoever- everything is open.

This guy thought "I want the girl," he expressed it immediately in the outside world, and now look- he has the girl. That is true "natural" game and he is on the right track for truly becoming "alpha" even though he seems initially to be a sap based on some of the story details.

-Darth

 

[JohnChops]

Bingo. This supports my previous post that the "chode" who chases a woman all over the place seems like he disgusts women, but he is actually more respected than the AFC who pines in secrecy or the socalled DJ who pretends not to want her but secretly does just like the AFC.

The "chode" is honest- he wants the girl and he is going around chasing her. This sets up the hunter/hunted dynamic, the warrior dynamic that is fundamental to real man/woman relationships. Of course she was attracted- the idea of a man tracking you down and "hunting" you probably turned her on.

Now, the crying- that's a different story. He had better watch it with that. But overall, this very much supports my philosophy that the inner self and outer self should match and you should have no secrets or private life whatsoever- everything is open.

This guy thought "I want the girl," he expressed it immediately in the outside world, and now look- he has the girl. That is true "natural" game and he is on the right track for truly becoming "alpha" even though he seems initially to be a sap based on some of the story details.

-Darth

Darth , your thread about matching your inner and outer self was actually really effing good. I looked back at how i attracted girls like crazy, before my oneitis tore me apart, and it made sense. I was/ am a great fvcking conversationalist, i used to tell them anything, my inner and outer self were in equilibrium. The only thing i concealed was who else i was banging at the time! The whole bit about mystery is kind of lame, you should let her find out your qualities over time. That's what i did. I didn't just tell her i played guitar and the conversation just stopped there. No no, you make a conversation about music, then bring out you play guitar (just using this as an example here). I have to say that this shows 1. Confidence 2. You just dont give a fvck what she or others think of you and the outcome is dynamite.

The whole thing about attraction is simple and we make it out to be some complicated elaborate play that must be read line for line. No. Simple.

1. See girl
2. Approach girl
3. Make interest known
4. Get number
5. Hangout

Simple.

To be honest a lot of people on here just complain and do nothing about it. You made a thread about some supposedly AFC getting a girl ... um who GIVES A FVCK ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING. Look , hes probably banging her now and you're sitting on a forum writing about it. Pathetic. We need more drive and energy, we're fvcking men. We have two emotions: pissed off and happy. Jealousy ain't one of them.

 

[C-quenced]

It's should be concrete evidence that girls will attach themselves to whatever they like. Alpha, beta, cool mo'D, or chumpdiggity....the choice is yours to pick.

Exactly.

 

[floydb25]

This is why you don't believe anything women say, or assume that things are going to remain the same. This is a very common scenerio, by the way. They'll tell you they're just friends, they're not interested in that person, they're creepy, they're like a brother to them, they're not dating, etc, etc - only to flirt, have sex with, date, or get involved with them. The players and schemers will do this intentionally - while acting as though the guy is doing all the work, and they're innocent throughout - even as they're initiating, reciprocating, not backing down, etc.

It can happen to YOU, too. They'll tell everyone ELSE they're not interested, and basically lie their asses off about their situation with you - so as to keep their options open, play the field, cheat on their SO, not be perceived as sluts, etc.

Generally, the more they are talking about someone - whether good or bad - the more they are focused on, intrigued by, or interested in them. Never fails. They can talk massive **** about them, act like they're not interested in them at all, say they have no chance with them, act like they're not showing any interest / the guy is doing all the work - only to turn around and get involved with them, or have a ONS (and deny it), or whatever.

This happens a LOT, and I've experienced it over and over again. Never believe a woman is or isn't interested in someone (including you) based on their claims. They're most likely tying to save face in some form or another. Even if the guy is low status, for example, they won't admit to liking them - even if they really do. They care more about social acceptance and how others perceive them than anything else. And this is based largely on perception.

But its not always a plot. Women go by how they feel at any given moment, and change their minds constantly. You're the best thing evar - then want nothing to do with you. They can't stand this guy - then end up marrying him. A lot of it is based on attraction and emotion, and can change INSTANTLY.

I've had instances where girls would ignore me, treat me like ****, say we're just friends, they don't want a relationship, etc for months - then OUT OF NO WHERE, pull a complete 180, and start giving, acting nice, wanting a relationship, talking about love, wanting to be seen with me, etc.

Either way, never believe ****, or assume anything is ever concrete. Especially in regards to other guys... or even you. As long as they're talking about them, and keeping them around - they're intrigued by them in some way. And as long as the proper attraction switches are pulled - they can go from not interested to head over heels in an instant. That's assuming they were ever telling the truth in the first place.

But, the main thing to realize in all of this is, most women are selfish, and make choices based on how THEY feel, how THEY are perceived, and what THEY want, at any given time. Nothing else matters. And most guys they keep around are OPTIONS, and potential suitors - not just friends they have no interest in. Especially when all these new guys keep popping up, and showing interest in them. They may act like, and tell you they're not interested, but they're usually lying, and keep them around / talk about them for a reason.

Of course, they won't tell YOU, or anyone else that - until they're firmly established with them. That's what most girls do when they're COURTING someone, and keeping their OPTIONS open in the meantime. They don't want people to think they are taken, which they technically aren't. But to claim no interest / friends only is foolish lies. ALL LIES.

 

[Demonpenz]

Sometimes you play like crap and you still win. I will keep playing the game the right way and stay happy over being sucky and getting a warm hole to slime me one time.

 

[R.C]

Same thing happened with my ex. She was telling me about this huge-time friendzone-ed beta that was tailing her after we broke up.I even caught eye of him once. The guy is pathetic.

"I don;t like anything about him , not even his looks. Big time friend-zone" she said.

Few days later she was half drunk and he kissed her He now thought that they were together.

Few more days later he confessed his feelings to her , to which she laughed and got repelled by at the same time..She showed me the conversation...man,it was painful.

Few days later , she accepted and they were in a relationship.

I simply cannot understand the logistics of this. Her words were "I'm just using him as a ticket to parties and so my parents won't complain that I'm going alone(she's 18,whatever). I'm just looking to have fun , nothing serious."

True or not true , if he plays his cards right she might just catch feelings for him and there you go. Totally afced his way into a relationship with an exuberant 9.5 .MY GOD DAMN 9.5 who I've gamed like a motherfvcker to get. Had a 3 year LTR with her that recently ended but that's besides the point.I'm somewhat offended that such an shining example of immense AFC-ness is my predecessor , for god's sake at least get someone better !!

 

[zekko]

I wish I had a dollar for every time I read a thread like this.
This is a pickup forum. Out in the real world, people are getting laid in all manner of ways. It's the most natural thing in the world. It's not all negs and takeaways.

A lot of guys are highly successful at playing the romance game. Since there are stories this guy is a womanizer, I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of them.