Drugs in the Water

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Deep Dish said:
I wouldn't be surprised if next week it's dangerous to sit in a chair.
Sitting in chairs cause lower back problems, obesity and illness.
When sitting the spine is placed in an unnatural position, metabolism is lowered and immune system function is diminished as apposed to standing.
 
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Deep Dish said:
I remember the time in my very early twenties when I believed a conspiracy theory that fluoride in water was killing 50,000 people a year; as the reasoning went, fluoride in the body accumulates over time and reaches fatal amounts in some rather vulnerably unlucky people, and due to some convoluted story there is some industrial conspiratorial cover-up. I came to realize I had been bamboozled by the fringe and, along with some other realized bamboozlements, I began exercising--not excising--skepticism.

Earlier today I had read the AP article on CNN and I do not doubt the veracity of the research that trace amounts of medicine are found in city supplies of drinking water. I do, however, doubt why I or anyone else should be scared. As stated in the article, causative effects are unestablished. The linkage to environmental estrogens is, to date, spurious. What of the estrogens of plastics?

Every week, it seems, the news media warns of some new perilous danger in everyday life and, as I always say, I wouldn't be surprised if next week it's dangerous to sit in a chair. Journalists are notoriously not the most scientifically literate of folks, are always needing to justify their mostly unnecessary existence by filling-in the news gap, and tend to be contacted by fringe groups. Granted, this AP research seems to have been carefully thought out, but at the end of the day they admit "So much is unknown. Many independent scientists are skeptical that trace concentrations will ultimately prove to be harmful to humans."

I understand the need to raise an early alarm if the concerns pan out, but in the meantime I will gulp down every glass of water with no less confidence.
We learn new things in science everyday, and it slowly fills out to general knowledge over time. That's the price you pay for progress.

Journalists always go for a sensational story since it helps their careers - that's their agenda. We live in world where everyone has their own agendas and the truth gets distorted because of it.

If you are concerned about your drinking water, install an RO (reverse osmosis) unit, that will make your drinking water 95% pure. Pure enough that it is drinkable, but NOT so PURE that it could kill you.

Note: Do NOT, under any circumstances drink, PURE water. It has no salts in it and can upset the your osmotic balance. It will take the saliva off your mouth and swell cells to bursting.

I've been drinking RO water for a good decade now and things taste better when it is used (tea, coffee, cooking etc . . .). It's a big industry in America so you should be able to get some domestic under sink units to install in your homes.
 

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I talked to a dude who worked with municipal water a few years ago.

He said something like the "good" news was that our water is dirty.
The bad news is that we're running out of it... :(

Yea, it's honestly a "perfect storm" against men these days. As bad as political feminism has been for us, the Pill was like a nuclear bomb. Not only did it allow women to fearlessly cheat and sleep around much more...but it has also poisoned our water supply as yet another potent xenoestrogen in our chemical soup. So, men are not simply becoming feminized POLITICALLY...but also BIOLOGICALLY!
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
It doesn't need to be a much higher dosage if it's enough for cumulative damage to take place. You won't find stanis fluoride in muddy water in a pond. You won't find hormones or medication waste in dirty streams or rivers. You don't get any of these kinds of manmade chemicals even in rusty pipes!! I don't by the reason being people s*tting out excess medication for one bit.
Where are you getting this from? I would be willing to bet that if you sampled river water, you'd find the same drugs in very similar concentrations. It's an environmental contamination problem, not intentional drugging. And yes you will find these hormones in lakes and ponds, look up the research that's showing fish becoming infertile because of residue from the pill in lakes and rivers.

And what does rust have to do with anything? I never said these chemicals were coming from rusty pipes - it'd be quite impressive if oxidized iron turned into medication?
 

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Didn't realize we had so many conspiracy nuts here :p.

'the concentrations of these pharmaceuticals are tiny, measured in quantities of parts per billion or trillion'

Start worrying when these amounts start getting in the per 100000's. 1/1000000000000 is an almost irrelevant amount. Reminds me of the anti-Florine arguments we get over here. People have no concept of scale.
 

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I think the problem with water fluoridation is that it can't be effective, fluoride only works whe it is applied directly to the enamal, not when it's absorbed into the body. That's why it works in toothpaste or those rinses at the dentists.

Which makes you wonder what the purpose of it is? I even asked my dentist if I should be taking fluoride supplements when I stopped drinking tap water and switched to bottled, and he said no, because it has no impact on your teeth. He said water fluoridation is actually more to regulate your metabolism, which I'm still not sure what he ment?
 

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Actually its really helps in the water, taking a supplement wont help of course because the pill will avoid your teeth but when you drink 5 glasses of water a day it coats your teeth in it each time. Between this and redbull (1000(?) times more acidic than coke) Australia is going to run into some teeth problems later. I hear my dentist father ***** about this whenever i go home for a family dinner.
 
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