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Dreaded Phone Call: Moving On!

bp1974

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As far as sushi man, I am not going to pay. Okay, call me a ***** but this guy and I are semi friends, he asked me out and well you never know. I didn't like my DJ when I first met him. ANd while i agree going out with false pretense and after a free meal is wrong. TOnight I could use it.

But see your point. I guess you can throw stones at me now.
I don't do sympathy, and I don't throw stones. Like I said, if he's prepared to pay, that's his lookout.

I think it's a shame that you and your 'DJ' ended up in this place where you just can't talk. I don't recommend you tell him you love him, I recommend you tell him straight up where you stand if you want to.

As I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong), you don't like the way he never reacts to what you say or to your attempts to talk to him. You are suspicious of him because he never tells you anything about what's going on for him. You have feelings for him but will not have a relationship with him of any kind whilst he insists on playing these games. This seems to be where you're at now.

There may be no point in saying this to him now, it may be too late for you. But whatever happens with him, for as long as you keep out of the game-playing cycle and shoot straight from the hip about what you want and need and what you won't put up with and don't need, you will feel much better about yourself and he will respect you more too. If he muscles up and starts acting like a man rather than a two-bit player, then all the better for you. If he runs for the hills, you know he was at heart a coward.

bp1974
 

Dark Nimbus

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Tamales, he's playing you like a violin and you're enjoying the music so rather then tell him bluntly and coldly that it's over and you don't want to hear from him again, you dance around hoping he changes his tune.

What exactly are you trying to get out of this "former DJ"? An apology? commitment? resolution? I've read some of your threads here and there, but to be honest it's getting old and you seem just as confused about him as you were when you got here. What good is it to learn some DJ techniques when you see them coming a mile away and STILL keep falling for them?? Why do I say this? Because you're still talking to this guy and letting him cling on, not to mention you think you're in love with him? If you're this confused about this issue, how is anyone supposed to help you out?

Only YOU know what you want out of him and what you want for yourself, and if I were to follow the DJ rule of judging a girl by her actions and not what she says, I would say you're as big an AFC as ever for clinging on to this player and any chance of having a LTR exclusively with him.

Get your thoughts straight about what YOU want out of this instead of flip-flopping around on us like the typical girl.
 

tamales

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Nevermind, but thanks for the valuable insight. I'll keep it in mind.
This thread is dead! And a typical women, nope. Hardly. But human and well, I have come very far. But easier to give advice on here than actually stick to it isn't it.

:D :D :D :D
 

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tamales

To quote you from a few posts back,

"He has better things to do and so should I"

Maybe this place has become too much of a crutch for you.

You want to "move on" , THEN DO IT!!!

STOP TALKING TO HIM!!!

HANG UP WHEN HE CALLS NEXT TIME.

This isn't getting easier for you because you are allowing him to mess with your head.

SHUT HIM OUT OF YOUR MIND AND YOUR LIFE

Then decide if you are in love with him. No one makes a good decision when they are in the state you are in now.


P.S. I love sushi too, maybe we should go sometime.
 

tamales

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Slick, SHut who out..?

Alright already!.. Staying on here lately only makes me dwell on him. Need to get off and get out again like I had been doing. And use moderation here. And well in time things will change. But..

Clinging onto here is no better than clinging onto him.

But call me for sushi sometime. Slick, I'd love to:)
 

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tamales,

I know you are going to take this the wrong way, but so be it. What exactly do you want from this guy? I mean, you tell us he's a true DJ, yet from what you tell us of him, he really isn't, maybe just a player. That's pushing it. Seems to me you are more wrapped up in the fantasy of being pursued by a true DJ. You say you think you love him. Do you love him the person, or what he does to you sexually? Really, you need to take some time and reflect what exactly you want from him. What is your viewpoint of love? Is it something that you give to someone, without conditions, undemanding, a gift to another, an expression of deep emotion for another that moves you so completely that you bestow that gift unto them without fear, without holding anything back of yourself and your heart that? Or is it something that you demand of someone, to validate yourself, a reward you deserve for giving your body to another, something that is owed to you?

One thing I have noticed is you have a way of relating to the men on the board as if we are your "girlfriends". We aren't. Men and women have different ways of communicating. I understand you are frustrated that he won't open up and all that emotional stuff on your time schedule. The way women are socialized, it is acceptable and expected that women are emotional and can freely express their emotions. You talk of crying all night long over this guy. How many times on this board have you heard of the men crying all night on and off over a girl? Men are socialized not to express their emotions in they way that you do. Do we have them? Sure, of course we do. We express them differently from women and on a different time schedule.

Do we have a wall up the size of China? Maybe so, but you tell us you are going to let a potential suitor take you out for sushi, foot the bill and you proudly proclaim you deserve this, even though you've already decided he doesn't have a chance with you. Are you a ***** for this? No, certainly not. However, the DJ bible advises us to steer clear of girls who do that kind of thing. It's dealing with girls who do this kind of BS that the DJ bible had to be developed. Maybe this guy thinks he honestly has a chance with you, but you've already written him off cause you are so wrapped up in that other man. Not very honest of you, really. Did you make it clear that he has no chance with you? And when we speak our truth from the male, perspective, you don't want to hear it. What's up with that? "This thread is dead!" Indeed. You ask us for insight, and when we give it to you, you can't handle it. You just give us excuses on why you should keep doing what you are doing. Consider this tough love, tamales, as we are all pulling for you. The solution lies in open honest communication between you and the men in your life. Have you communicated exactly what you want your relationship to be with him. What is acceptable to you and what is not? Have you told him what he has to do to be with you? What he will do that will lose you? Are you caving in if you get what you want? Do you really love him?
 

tamales

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God enough already. Okay, I get the point. Thanks for telling me just one more time so I can get it into my pea sized brain tho. Geesh....As far as the rest of the comments, think what you want. I don't care and know what kind of person I am and I am extremely content with that.

It's not always easy to post your thoughts on here hell, not even on a good day, let alone a bad one.

But whatever.

ANything else:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I do appreciate your post and you taking the time to write it. I will think about all of what you said. I never have not even though you seem to think so. But as far as this guy tonight. I didn't say he didn't have a chance entirely just most likely, and well he and I are and have been semi friends. Never anything else. He knows about my dj and probably senses I need a night out. Sure I think he sort of might like me. And no I don't make a habit of ever using people, or letting men at bars by me drinks if I don't like them. But **** it, tonight would be good for me so sue me for agreeing and taking him up on his offer, we are semi-friends. He is not a man that I just met who is really into me and wants to date me. At least I don't think so.

I agree with growing and looking and seeing the truth. I am not perfect but I don't think it's fair for you to judge me based on that one comment. Hardly. Or for you to judge me at all. Nor do you really know or understand my relaltionship with any of the men in my life. Many have been very loving and good and healthy.

Whatever. I thank you for you insight albeit, I think you assume a lot. And I am not afraid to see the truth. Getting here wasn't easy. And I have in turn tried to also offer helpful info. And I have never not listened. I have done so and grown a lot. But it's useless to debate it.

Dead, indeed. ANd I wish you the very same.

Off for a run with DR now.
 
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The most useful advice you will hear today..

Go for a walk!

I been on this forum far too long myself. Sh*t is addictive as hell! I am signing off now to see the real world. Care to join me?
 

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tamales,

You are not being judged, we are trying to help you with your situation. We wouldn't spend all this time responding to your posts if we didn't want you to succeed. You aren't interested in listening to what we have to say, tho.

So be it.

Good luck, tamales.
 

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Hi Tamales! Haven't been keeping up with the posts lately. I must say I'm surprised you're still allowing this guy to communicate with you. You've tried to be nice about it, now it's time to send the bastard crashing down.

- When he calls and you hear his voice, hang up.
- If you have caller ID, don't answer the phone.
- When he emails you, hit the delete button immediately. Don't bother responding.

This is the only way you're going to get him out of your life. He'll eventually get the message that you don't want anything to do with him.
 
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