Dr. Phil has a guy explaining the Mystery Method

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Dr. Phil's Show said:
Valerie and Holli, two women at the bar the night the students of The Mystery Method practiced their techniques, share their experiences at the end of the evening.



"[One of the men who approached me] was a nice guy. He kept coming back to us and sitting at our table. He came back to us when he thought we were leaving and said, ‘I hope you guys have a good night. It was nice to meet you,'" Holli shares.



"He definitely gave me a couple compliments and acted like he was interested. I would maybe go for him, but he’s not usually my typical type," Valerie says.



In his studio, Dr. Phil asks Valerie, “When you walk into a bar, a social situation, a party somewhere, what’s your attitude?”



“Just to have fun,” she says. “Usually at bars I don’t have it in my head to meet a guy, because I don’t seem to find quality guys at bars.”

“Do you get hit on a lot when you’re out socializing and you’re not on a date?” Dr. Phil probes.

“I actually don’t get approached very often,” she says.

Asked about her experiences, Holli says, “I get approached quite a bit, but it’s usually the guys that approach you that you don’t want to approach you.”

Valerie agrees.



“What does interest you?” Dr. Phil asks.

“Somebody who’s not drunk,” Valerie says with a smile.
Telling...

This interview of the two b1tches was most stupefying to me. This double standard is STARK here. They can be dishonest and hypocritical but we cannot??
 

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Telling...

This interview of the two b1tches was most stupefying to me. This double standard is STARK here. They can be dishonest and hypocritical but we cannot??
I don't see women as dishonest in these situations but I will say that they are typically more prepared. It may just be because of type of game (or lack of) which the typical guy that would approached them would have. Overall the women in the audience felt if was a good thing for men to learn how to be more engaging. At least it was until Ross started talking about NLP. Anyone besides me think that Ross looks like Screech from "Saved by the Bell" after having a few too many drunken benders with Gary Bussey?
 

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I don't see women as dishonest in these situations but I will say that they are typically more prepared. It may just be because of type of game (or lack of) which the typical guy that would approached them would have. Overall the women in the audience felt if was a good thing for men to learn how to be more engaging. At least it was until Ross started talking about NLP. Anyone besides me think that Ross looks like Screech from "Saved by the Bell" after having a few too many drunken benders with Gary Bussey?
I do. And NLP tends to work both ways. I don't understand why we should care what Dr. Phil's audience thinks. As Style said, these people are already pre-programmed to hate or stack the cards against men in all facets of society. I don't think what we say is gonna convince them otherwise. Recently, I've had a girl use what I think to be NLP saying, "Thank you for that compliment.
My insides froze and I got goosebumps. You're amazing!"

Women don't want us using what They use to extort money from us. They can't shame me into doing one thing or another. I'll use whatever they use on me, which includes push-pull, qualifying and challenging, cold-reading, negs, storytelling, re-framing, intentional hypocriting, good cop/bad cop, role playing, body language, tension loops, nested loops, attraction coups, etc etc.
 

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I do. And NLP tends to work both ways. I don't understand why we should care what Dr. Phil's audience thinks. As Style said, these people are already pre-programmed to hate or stack the cards against men in all facets of society. I don't think what we say is gonna convince them otherwise. Recently, I've had a girl use what I think to be NLP saying, "Thank you for that compliment.
My insides froze and I got goosebumps. You're amazing!"
I have nothing against the concept of NLP or even using it in certain instances (on yourself or on a willing partner), that's when it's most effective; almost hypnotic. Ross was correct about using certain concepts of NLP which work to ilicit personal comfort during a conversation, but I personally draw the line at using anything such as anchoring or embedded commands against someone for my own benifit. I think there's a fine line in there somewhere but it's even a bit difficult for me to see it.
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Women don't want us using what They use to extort money from us. They can't shame me into doing one thing or another. I'll use whatever they use on me, which includes push-pull, qualifying and challenging, cold-reading, negs, storytelling, re-framing, intentional hypocriting, good cop/bad cop, role playing, body language, tension loops, nested loops, attraction coups, etc etc.
If you want a good laugh, do some research on a series of books called "The Rules."
 

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Thanks for the link.

Most of the episode was pretty good. The audience seemed to like the Mystery Method guys. Ross Jeffries came off as very creepy and looking for a fight. The ending portion with the woman who was swindled was completely unrelated and unnecessary.

I am annoyed that Dr. Phil implied that learning about how to attract women has any relation to scamming women out of money.
 

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I am annoyed that Dr. Phil implied that learning about how to attract women has any relation to scamming women out of money.
You mean the part when he says that he wanted to talk about another story that doesn't have anything to do with meeting, icebreaking or picking up women? The segment where he tells the woman that she has accountability for not reading the signs which stuck out like a red flag?
 
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