doyou guys believe in attraction=not a choice?

[DonJuanForever]

John

Its funny this mess of a thread is still here. It just shows that this site is only famous for flame wars and pity-less arguments.

What are you flaming for? Don’t call me out of my name, what is this So “suave” or So “silly?"

I don’t have time to respond to all you flamers, but very quickly, Ace of Flames "knows what attraction is" but he can't stop jacking off to a chick from English class.

Delta claims to "know attraction," when he's CLEARLY HAVING WOMEN PROBLEMS. He gets on the forum and makes 3 paged posts about how, "Women are our OPPONENTS." According to Delta, "women won't show you no mercy, they will show you no charity, if you fail to pass a hurtle, you are gone, and they will crush you and move on with their lives as if you are nothing."

No, women do all that shyt to guys they don't like, which = YOU.
Women are not OPPONENTS, if you embrace your sexual side, they can be very good TEAMMATES.

How the hell can you get up here and claim to know attraction, when you clearly aren't attractive and CAN'T GET LAID? You are not sexually satisfied at 32, and you have the nerve to TEACH ME, about attraction? I can provide you with phone numbers and addresses. Pm me and find out, gone ahead. What can you throw up but another sosuave thread quote?

Flame wars don’t accomplish anything, so grow up.

Again, ATTRACTION IS A CHOICE. But most of you don’t even know what attraction is or WHY you are even attracted to somebody….read on……………..

 

[DonJuanForever]

For all you analytical, physiological guys, pay attention. So attraction isn't a choice? Well........

Attraction is the result of a physiological response, that’s based on mental programming and emotions. The emotional and mental part of attraction is what is called a relationship paradigm. It has the attributes, qualities, and things that in our mind WE perceive are attractive. Keyword WE. This becomes apart of our minds, which over time, becomes apart of our emotions. (Basically, a mental programming of the subconscious mind)

When we meet girls who fit OUR paradigm, our subconscious mind is triggered (that’s programming) and the attraction process begins, as the body releases dopamine.

But, the point is, not everyone has the SAME paradigm of what they perceive is attractive. It’s unique to each person, that’s why the don juan rules of becoming that “one guy who gets all the girls,” or my favorite “Mother Nature’s system is in place, plug in,” that’s why it’s all delusional, because attraction to one is different than attraction to another.

But you guys are saying, ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE, I can't help BUT be attracted to her? YES NOW!! NOW, that I have been programmed and trained to be.

What I said is that attraction IS A CHOICE, but attraction is A RESULT of mental programming. You might think that “I’m a man, you are woman, we HAVE TO FVCK,” and you can keep thinking that all you want, but you ARE ATTRACTED TO WOMEN, because you were programmed to be.

I bet, if you did some hypnosis sessions, someone could untrain you to being attracted to women.

Now hey, I’m not gay, and I don’t want anybody else to be gay here, I am programmed to the hilt to be attracted to women and I want to stay that way, lol.

I am just trying to inform you, attraction IS A CHOICE.

In conclusion, on women, and how to fvck them? How to fvck the slvt is the same as how to fvck the quality chick……it’s all about a payoff. Either you will be in sexual state and very sexual around her so she can see the payoff of great sex, or you’ll offer her cash, your lifestyle, your time, your energy, etc…and she’ll fvck you to obtain that.

If you guys still want to flame, gone right ahead. If you want to have a discussion, you see my pm box, click it.

- John

 

[Bvbidd]

That was the most true post you've done DJF.

Holy sh!t. Did you just morph into another poster with all the answers. Cuz your right.

Seriously.. this guy just spelled it all fvcking out you.

(Not Sarcastic)

 

[The Juan and only]

There you go again, you are claiming that if we take a young child, and brainwash them to be attracted to certain things, then perhaps they would be. Yes, maybe. BUT THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THE CONTEXT OF THE QUESTION, AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MOST PEOPLE ARE WE ARE TALKING CONSCIOUS VS SUBCONSCIOUS. BRAINWASHING WORKS BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE SUBCONCIOUS MIND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

Attraction is not a conscious choice. End of.

This is what I've been saying from the beginning but you clearly didnt bother to read my post.

 

[blueguy]

I don't agree.

If you're a preppy, you are predisposed to liking that mentality and behaviour, else you wouldn't be one. You cannot look at someone and make a logical decision to be attracted to them.

We may like people who are like us, but it's a subconscious process.

I think the question, "is attraction a choice" is asked often because guys want to know if they can do certain things to attract a certain girl they've been eyeing. And the answer is, they can. But the only real caveat as that she needs to be physically attracted to you in the first place, and you should not be changing or have been changing for her but rather for yourself. Speaking from real experience, I have at least proven to myself that attraction is a choice by later attracting a few girls that had written me off prior. Further, I changed to become more like them only because that's what I wanted for myself. Which goes to show that you are attracted to that which you want to make yourself be even if you are not quite there yourself. You choose which girls you attract RIGHT NOW by everything you do.

 

[The Juan and only]

I think the question, "is attraction a choice" is asked often because guys want to know if they can do certain things to attract a certain girl they've been eyeing. And the answer is, they can. But the only real caveat as that she needs to be physically attracted to you in the first place, and you should not be changing or have been changing for her but rather for yourself. Speaking from real experience, I have at least proven to myself that attraction is a choice by later attracting a few girls that had written me off prior. Further, I changed to become more like them only because that's what I wanted for myself. Which goes to show that you are attracted to that which you want to make yourself be even if you are not quite there. You choose which girls you attract RIGHT NOW by everything you do.

yes fair enough, you can change yourself to make others attracted to you, but you can't do things the other way around, you can't look at somebody and say "right, I am going to be attracted to that person", can you? the factors are subconscious.

 

[Delta]

yes yes "dj"f, once again, you have stomped your opponents not with logic but personal attacks.

makes sense if you don't have the mental capacity to deal with the issue at hand.

bravo.

i thought you were gonna stop arguing.... if the thread becomes more of a mess, it's your responsibility now.

hope you feel big little man.

delta

 

[DonJuanForever]

Oh Delta stop it dude, it's Friday!

I disagreed with "attraction is not a choice" last night, and you called me out talking about how stupid I am for, "not agreeing with everybody else," and that "I can't read and understand English."

Well Delta it was nice to meet you buddy, but my name is John, and I quite frankly don't give 2 shyts in a garbage bag what "everybody else" agrees with. I have my own mind and own opinion.

There was no point to YOUR flaming last night, it was uncalled for. I disagreed with your "theory" and you want to bash me calling me names and such, lol, grow up dude I don't give a fvck about your theories, lol.

It's Labor Day weekend, there's a party tonight, tomorrow, Sunday and Monday! I'm getting svcked off, drunk, and I will see ya'll fellows......on, ummmmm, I don't know.

- DJF

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

donjuanforever has not clue what he is talking about,

he spews out technobabble in his last post to make himself seem intelligent, but it doesnt work, becuase its already clear that he probably has down syndrome; he thinks animals dont have brains. now I would expect this from someone with screwed logic, ie beleive attraction is a choice.A low IQ, it explains it all!

he also contridicts himself, he talks about us being raised to like what we like in a woman and then say attraction is a choice. if what we like controls when we decide to **** a girl or not, and what we like has been forced on us and ingrained into our brains (which we have no say in) then our decisions to **** isnt a free decision, its just a consequence of our upbringing, and therefore not a real choice...attraction isnt a choice.

 

[Delta]

oh heavens...

"dj"f , YOU resuscitate the conflict and you're telling me to "stop it dude"?

it was stopped! until you started it up again. sigh....

anyway, may your success with women this weekend be in inverse proportion to your ability to say something useful.

delta

 

[DonJuanForever]

God of getting layed, use the spell checker! And use your eyes, idiot, you just agreed to what I said!!!

You said,
"if what we like controls when we decide to fvck a girl and what we like has been ingrained into our brains (which we have no say in) then our decisions to fvck isnt a free decision, its just a consequence of our upbringing, and therefore not a real choice...attraction isnt a choice."

God don't you ever get up here and call me stupid! Jack-azz, you just said what I just said about attraction.

Idiot says, "if what we like controls when we fvck a girl and it's ingrained in us, it isn't a free decision."

Who the fvck ingrained it in you? Do you know what ingrain means? Programmed!! I just said that you stupid idiot! Then, jackazz continues, you say,
"(which we have no say in)" No, you HAD NO SAY IN, it's like the guys who grow up beta males, they were programmed by family and friends to act that way.

Continue jackazz,

" Then our decisions to fvck isnt a free decision, its just a consequence of our upbringing, and therefore not a real choice...attraction isnt a choice."

A consequence of upbringing, hmmmmm. Meaning the that person or people who brought us up, had to teach us that.....so, that means, THEY TAUGHT US WHO TO FVCK!! Isn't that what I just said?

God of getting laid or getting stoned, get off the computer, it's Friday, go fvck something.

 

[DonJuanForever]

Delta, end it. It's over. I'm done talking to you and God on this thread. If you have something to say, pm me or email me or fvckin call me!

It's over.

WHO GIVES A FVCK WHAT ATTRACTION IS....just as long as your getting laid by quality chicks just get laid dude!! Damn.....

 

[Ace of Flames]

Lol. You're all saying the same thing. Its funny to watch the squabbling.

Anyway, I don't know why I was aligned with the "flamers", DJF. Whatever.

 

[blueguy]

yes fair enough, you can change yourself to make others attracted to you, but you can't do things the other way around, you can't look at somebody and say "right, I am going to be attracted to that person", can you? the factors are subconscious.

I guess I didn't read too deply into this thread. But that argument is the same one that's been asked since the beginning of time. You are ultimately talking about a much deepr argument about decisions (attraction to and execution of choices) and pre-determined fate. We make every choice because we are attracted to it... the girls we are attracted to are a result of the attractions we have to other things in life. I don't think anybody really knows the answer to that question of whether we really have choices or have a certain fate... except maybe God.