doyou guys believe in attraction=not a choice?

[DonJuanForever]

Delta, I KNEW you were going to say,

"The only women that are with guys like that are DAMAGED CHICKS. You go talk to those women and see what the condition of THEIR LIVES and minds are like."

You are STILL missing the point, lol. My goodness, this don juan stuff is killing you guys, seriously.

Why do you think women fvck you Delta? Why? Is it because you are so much of a man, and Mother Nature put urges in the woman that she can't fvckin survive unless she fvcks you? That because you are a man, she just MUST BE ATTRACTED TO YOU.

Well, if that were the case, this site would not exist buddy.

Women fvck you because they WANT TO, they CHOOSE TO. I MUST eat and drink water or I'll die.....if I choose to not fvck, I won't die. So if it's a Mother Nature thing, if I go without sex for 2 weeks (like going without food) wouldn't I be really ill?

It does not matter if the chick grew up in the ghetto or grew up in Beverly Hills, WOMEN FVCK GUYS, who are sexual......because..........WOMEN LIKE TO FVCK. The guy who is clearly very sexual to her, and is persistant, is telling her nonverbally that, "I can fvck good, and you need to fvck me." So unless the guy is a bum on the street or smells very badly or presents himself unclean, she says, "What the hell, I need some dyck."

And, and.....AFTER HE TAPS THAT, and does it good, she keeps coming back for more.

- DJF

 

[DonJuanForever]

Lol, Delta, animals DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, because animals don't have a brain.

With a brain comes will power.

Why don't you just ask yourself this question Delta, and Juan and Only as well.

If alllll it took to get laid, was to just plug into Mother Nature's system and be a man......why does this site exist, and why can't every single guy walking get laid?

Are you saying they are not a man? Okay, what's man? It has nothing to do with the crap being said on this site about his goals, and self improvement, and the way he walks, thinks, and acts, and shyt...lol.

A man is a male with a penis! A woman is a female with a vagina, wtf?

Hey guys, if attraction is NOT A CHOICE, go fvck that ugly, fat, nasty chick, smelling like hot sauce and baked barbeque doritos. Go ahead....go...

Can't do it can you. But, why not...she's a woman? Isn't that Mother Nature pulling you "naturally" to her because she's a woman?

I'm trying to help you guys here.

 

[The Juan and only]

You're dead wrong, but that's not even the point.

In fact, your argument is so flawed I don't even know where to begin

Also, you say "this country", I mean, I am from the UK myself, and are you claiming people don't have sex in africa?

when something occurs as consistently as it does, it is clearly not a function of culture or education.

 

[The Juan and only]

Hey guys, if attraction is NOT A CHOICE, go fvck that ugly, fat, nasty chick, smelling like hot sauce and baked barbeque doritos. Go ahead....go...

WHAT THE ****. That goes against your own argument, does it not?

"animals dont have a brain"

go back to biology class /jk, because mostly, they do.

 

[dynamicallyidle]

Lol, Delta, animals DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, because animals don't have a brain.

With a brain comes will power.

Why don't you just ask yourself this question Delta, and Juan and Only as well.

If alllll it took to get laid, was to just plug into Mother Nature's system and be a man......why does this site exist, and why can't every single guy walking get laid?

Are you saying they are not a man? Okay, what's man? It has nothing to do with the crap being said on this site about his goals, and self improvement, and the way he walks, thinks, and acts, and shyt...lol.

A man is a male with a penis! A woman is a female with a vagina, wtf?

Hey guys, if attraction is NOT A CHOICE, go fvck that ugly, fat, nasty chick, smelling like hot sauce and baked barbeque doritos. Go ahead....go...

Can't do it can you. But, why not...she's a woman? Isn't that Mother Nature pulling you "naturally" to her because she's a woman?

I'm trying to help you guys here.

DonJuanForever, simply acting "sexual" may attract a woman in body, but it will not attract her in "spirit" and "intellect."

Acting sexually comfortable is only part of the equation.

For instance, women cannot choose but to turn their heads when they see a Porsche drive by.

 

[DonJuanForever]

Lol, you guys are just not listening to yourselves. You are saying that women ARE ATTRACTED TO all guys who are a man?

But none of you can REALLY define what a man is. Wtf does working out, making money, and wearin nice clothes have to do with being a natural man? Thats like asking, what is a dog? And you guys saying, well a dog is a dog that protects his master, is trained and knows where to piss at, knows when to bark and when not to bark. THOSE ARE QUALITIES of a PARTICULAR dog....if you take all that shyt away it's still a damn DOG!!

Getting laid is simple, it's all about the sexual shyt at the beginning, once you've fvcked her some times, you basically got her azz to do whatever you want.

And that includes all chicks.

 

[The Juan and only]

Oh please.

You have moved far away from the original question, started contradicting yourself and generally "talking crazy", so I give up.

I don't think you even understand what we're are saying, or have really thought about your own responses. Re-read this thread, very carefully.

 

[dynamicallyidle]

I don't think most guys here just "wanna get laid." They want to find one GREAT girl and keep her.

Lol, you guys are just not listening to yourselves. You are saying that women ARE ATTRACTED TO all guys who are a man?

But none of you can REALLY define what a man is. Wtf does working out, making money, and wearin nice clothes have to do with being a natural man? Thats like asking, what is a dog? And you guys saying, well a dog is a dog that protects his master, is trained and knows where to piss at, knows when to bark and when not to bark. THOSE ARE QUALITIES of a PARTICULAR dog....if you take all that shyt away it's still a damn DOG!!

Getting laid is simple, it's all about the sexual shyt at the beginning, once you've fvcked her some times, you basically got her azz to do whatever you want.

And that includes all chicks.

 

[DonJuanForever]

Lol, I'll have to pick this back up a little later, here's your quote,

"DonJuanForever, simply acting "sexual" may attract a woman in body, but it will not attract her in "spirit" and "intellect." Women cannot choose but to turn their heads when they see a Porsche drive by."

I'll turn my head with you drive by in a Porsche, why? Because in my mind I am thinking, "what if I could drive in that car?" Does that mean I want to svck your dyck? Lol, probably to get to ride in the car, lol, but I don't svck dyck, lol, a woman might though, lol.

Acting sexual attracts women in the "body" but not in "spirit" and "intellect" YOU ARE FVCKIN CORRECT. So fvckin correct....that you don't even know HOW.

When you first meet a chick, you are doing what a loan officer does, you are pre-qualifying her. In order to even get to the approval part, I need to make sure she passes the pre-approval, which determines EVEN IF SHE CAN BE CLOSED.

If she won't fvck you, how could she truly like you "enough" to be a good girl to you in a relationship? If she won't fvck you, isn't she saying that I don't really like you "that much?" Then how can she be a good girlfriend and support me, inspire me, be there for me when I need her? She won't even fvck me?

Not talking about slvts, talking about regular chicks. If a girl is really into you, she will fvck you, period...

Once this is happening...nooowww, we get into the relationship BUILDING portion. Now, that she has passed the pre-qualifying stage so that I know there's potential value here, nooooww I can go ahead and get the approval done.

So noooww, we start to get deeper, finding out more and more things about each other. And we BUILD a relationship, a friendship, trust, etc....

Most guys just JUMP INTO relationships...and don't BUILD THEM. And that's why the idiot gets cheated on, because he doesn't let the fvckin thing BUILD up over time.

I'll be back later guys, lol.

- DJF

 

[DonJuanForever]

Juan I am not drunk buddy, lol, I know exactly what I am saying. You guys just are not listening to me NOR seeing what really is happening.

You guys are putting TOO MUCH into this getting laid, getting great relationships with women. Self Improvement is GREAT! But it's not a damn requirement, if it was...trust me, there would be much more god damn millionares.

 

[dynamicallyidle]

Juan I am not drunk buddy, lol, I know exactly what I am saying. You guys just are not listening to me NOR seeing what really is happening.

You guys are putting TOO MUCH into this getting laid, getting great relationships with women. Self Improvement is GREAT! But it's not a damn requirement, if it was...trust me, there would be much more god damn millionares.

The idea behind self-improvement is not

self-improve ---> then get girls

The idea is

self-improve ---> be happy with yourself and your life ---> this will attract girls indirectly. yes, especially sexually.

certain, what i believe are low-quality women, will be easily manipulated by sex as you say. it's the high quality women who can resist the temptation enough to see the whole picture

 

[DonJuanForever]

Delta I re-read your post again, let me clear this up.

I am not saying that "the urge to have sex" is not natural. That is NOT what I am saying.

What I am saying is that "who I have sex with" is TOTALLY MY CHOICE. But, but, but....

You guys are saying that all you have to do is plug in to some Mother Nature's system and become some "man" and (say if I'm a girl) then I'll fvck you. No, no, no......

A girl fvcks a guy, based on these things.

1. That guy's willingness to show her he's sexual, this shows her he would give her a good time, so say if she's single and not "settled in" why not? If she's not single but still not settled in, why not? She asks, "why not?" This is 90% of the women you encounter, lol

OR

2. She could fvck a good based on what ELSE she could get from him. Unlike the #1, she fvcks him because she can get great sex. She fvcks number 2, because she could get her bills paid, look cool hanging with him, get protection from him (if he's tough), have him pay her bills, he'll be a good role model to the kids, she'll have a life because her's is boring as hell, she'll have something to do now, etc.

So overall, a girls MAKES THE CHOICE...a girl bases her decision to fvck on what particular PAYOFF she wants and sees she can get from him.

Now, YOU GUYS, are aiming to be guy number two, why? Why so early in the relationship? Why, after just meeting this chick, does she get to ride in the Porsche, hang out with you and look cooler than she is, get your date money, why, why, why? What has she done for you lately (Janet Jackson 1980's)?

Be the guy in the number one category. Let her fvck you based on you being a potential good fvcking partner.....this way, her attraction is more towards you as a person, not you as a cool guy, you as a rich guy, you as a tough guy, or you as another role.

Then you can BUILD a relationship where she falls in love with YOU, not your lifestyle...as you guys promote on this site.

Are you following me yet? Okay, lol, this is my last post for right now, see ya later.

- DJF

 

[Delta]

hmmmm.

we're not saying all women want to fvck all guys "DJ"F....

you don't want f a fat ugly woman do you? so JUST as you have a built in predilection for certain traits, SO DO WOMEN. just as there is a biological imperative to fvck, there is a biological mandate for certain traits, those traits being a reflection of either superior genes or societal advantage which ends up benefitting the offspring.

i'm beginning to think that your prime problem is not with grasping the concept of evolutionary psychology (although you have a tremendous deficit there... make no mistake)... rather that it's a lack of command of the english language. i don't think you're properly understanding what anyone is saying. and what YOU are saying is BARELY COHERENT ENOUGH TO EVEN BE WRONG....

again, the concept of alpha male implies that there are non alpha males. learn what this means, then come back ok?

delta

 

[Delta]

Self Improvement is GREAT! But it's not a damn requirement, if it was...trust me, there would be much more god damn millionares.

ahh...

now this i understand.

he's swinging at everything that moves but this single point, i understand.

i argue this myself. i too agree that self improvement is not the proper answer to "how do i get women". as i mention in another thread, it may be the answer to how do i get a QUALITY woman.

and it may simply be that "DJ"F is arguing that "game" plays a part in getting chicks.

and that, i think, no one would disagree with.

but most of us would say that "game" is a manifestation of "alpha" characteristics... again, appealing to ingrained, natural instinct in women. but this, he would deny.

alas... what a mess.

delta

 

[DonJuanForever]

Delta I am no science major. But I do know the alpha male is the not the strongest in the group, not the toughest, he's the top animal who all the women fvck.

I mean, lol, what does it matter?

That's a group theory. Usually in a group, the group has only one leader, and in this particular situation, the guy who all the women flock to, the rest of the group follows.

Delta I see what you are saying, all women already have built in determations for men. You are saying it's natural, that Nature put it there, and that the man who displays these traits, gets laid.

Then the same goes for men, it's all pre-set by Nature.

Lol, lol, lol.

So, hmmmmm.

In grade school, why did I get laid then? HOLD ON...hold on, before you say,"WELL, young chicks are just shallow.." HOLD ON, you JUST SAID, Nature put Pre-Determined Urges to mate in women FROM BIRTH.....so that means that the SAME WAY I got laid then, I'll get laid now.

THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, whether you know it or not.

And you don't see how this is wrong? In grade school, wtf is dominant, confident, smart, all the "traits" of a man....where the fvck is that in me? I ran around grabbing chick's azzes and fvcked in the back of the school, after school.

Same thing today, I run around in sexual state, I start kinoing chicks, this leads to fvckin in my backseat.

What has changed?

If it's all about the pre-set things, like being dominant, confident, etc...when did I show it? Before or after I grabbed her azz?

 

[DonJuanForever]

Delta you are 32, why do you keep saying, "most of us," have a mind of your own.

You say,

"but most of us would say that "game" is a manifestation of "alpha" characteristics... again, appealing to ingrained, natural instinct in women."

There IS NO GAME. There IS NO ALPHA MALE.

So a woman goes, " Oh my!! He's confident and dominant, let's fvck!"

Are you serious? Where are you guys, are you in the United States? What chicks do you talk to? Are they chicks? Lol, lol, lo.

 

[Delta]

oh dear...

explanation: asserting yourself enough to grab chicks - although it is crude - can be construed as being confident and dominant.

you're kind of out of your depth here. retire the argument.

certain things that you say are correct. but the reasoning behind why you think it works is all over the place and as i said, is barely comprehensible enough to be wrong.

delta

 

[Delta]

this is not to demean you or attack you. i just want to clarify - is english your first language?

cuz there is a serious disconnect between what everyone is saying and what you're apparently understanding.

delta

 

[DonJuanForever]

Lol, is English my first language? Dude, first off.

You think you are SO correct with your little theory-based bull.

You are saying nothing but what's been said on this site for years. You are saying that attraction is not a choice, that Mother Nature put pre-set urges in each of us to choose certain mates.

You are saying that women are naturally attracted to men who are dominant, confident, masculine, sense of self, who also appear to be good potential fathers and protectors and providers.

You are saying that men are naturally attracted to women who display certain body parts that goes more into her being a potential great mother.

What the hell is hard to NOT understand?

What I am clearly stating, is NOT that I don't understand what you are saying, I am saying, IT'S NOT CORRECT.

Let me ask you Delta, how many women have you been with in 32 years? Not that having a lot matters, but I am speaking from field experience, what the hell are you speaking from, Webster? Pook? Skip2mylou, lol? You are speaking from textbooks, websites, forums, other member's opinions, I am trying to speak to you from experience.

And overall, what I am saying, is that all it takes is to NOT be afraid of your sex drive, be sexual, be sexually persistant, and you won't have to worry about a lack of pvssy.

Now, do YOU understand english? I thought I just said this.

- John

 

[DonJuanForever]

Delta I can tell you are a bitter man, just look at your quote,

"women are the enemy - why do you think we fvck them?!"

A woman can't screw the guy who won't bend over and let her. But since you know everything, continue doing and believing what you please.